Ep.105 Jamahal "Sweet Dreams" Hill

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Now let's talk about sex and violence. What's happening hot stuff, what is up all my naughty listeners, I am excited to be in the studio like always. And our guest is such a funny, funny, savage. You know, I'm really excited to talk about the fighting aspect, but also get down to the nitty gritty. But before we talk to our guest, I always like to tell you what's going on with me in my life. If you guys are tuning in regularly, you know, our podcast is now in UFC fight pass, and you're probably going to hear it a few 100 More times because we're really fucking proud of it. But other than that just been chipping away at physical therapy, and yoga and rowing and just trying to get my body 100% So that I can get back in the cage after March 3 Because your girl is suspended. And if you're wondering why I'm suspended, I advise you guys to take a look into it. Some headlines are like Ashlee Evans-Smith, taking steroids. And I try not to bring it up because I feel like everyone's memories are really short and we'll just forget about it. But at the same time, it's like damn, do people really think I'm taking steroids. I'm not guys. The supplement was called D H E A another fighter recently, it's not my place to say got popped for it as well. It is something that you can get on Amazon CVS, I was prescribed by a doctor. Basically, I'm not over here sticking needles in my butt. And this is my podcast. So I feel like this is the opportunity where I can clear the air. And even though that happened a few weeks ago, has it been a month yet? I don't even know. About a month you know, it's still kind of chaps my ass because never been a cheater. And you know, things aren't always black and white guys, but my heart goes out to the other fighters that have dealt with this. And I think that if we talk about it, hopefully, bare minimum we can be a cautionary tale for other fighters because I thought that I was being smart and just doing what my doctor said. But question authority guys, moral of my story is question authority. So you don't end up getting suspended when all you're trying to do is the right thing. But other than that, all I can do is get my body as healthy and strong and ready to go for after March 3 When my suspension is lifted. And I will be doing that and in the meantime, talking to all my fellow fighters about their sex lives. And that is why YouTube did so before we get to our guest a couple of things that I got going on. If you guys want to come to the submission only Series event. It is a local grappling submission only grappling event. It's very fun, it's like EBI, but you know it's still a very very different venue. So the submission only series of events are usually put on with DJs and music and vendors so the best of the grappling world with a party vibe basically and the next one is going to be submission only series SOS number seven it's called the welterweight pros, you got 175 pound grappling dudes like the most exciting competitors to my partner is a black belt and so I've had to you know learn about the grappling world and now that I know if you guys know about the grappling world like the competitors in submission only series are the highest level I don't have the list in front of me but these guys are competing for $5,000 Like that's unheard of. And this is being streamed live on flow grappling which I don't know if I should be talking about another streaming service but fuck it you know it's it's a great event. Check it out guys. I'm hosting it with my friend and she's a wrestler as well. 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All right, let's go. Here we are. We got sweet dreams Hill. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I know it's not your average podcast. We will talk about MMA and what you got going on in three weeks. Yeah. Well, welcome to the show. Jamal, thank you so much for being on the show. I appreciate it. Let's talk about fighting first, the violence of sex and violence. So you got your big fight coming up. Johnny. Sorry. Thiago Santos. You just knocked out Johnnie Walker. How are you feeling? So I'm good. I'm just ready to keep it rolling. Ready to get back in there? You know, it's performed as a funny, you know, makes more money. Yeah. Do you feel like that knockout of Johnnie Walker like set the record straight? Shut up, you know, kind of quieted a lot of naysayers and or do you still feel like you have people thinking that you shouldn't be headline?

Unknown Speaker 13:23
Of course, I can knock out everybody in the division is still have. I'm saying you still gonna have the haters? Makes it very you want to call them? You know, but yeah, the knockout of Johnnie Walker it helped, you know, raise my stock, you know, and gave me gave me better opportunities. And I just got to go out there and keep capitalizing,

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can you feel a shift in the fans or momentum? Anything changed? I mean, I know it raised your stock, Everyone raises your stock, right? But like, you know, I even told you when we spoke on the phone the other day that I was like, oh, no, about this sweet dreams Hill. He's just coming out of nowhere. And you know, like just knocking guys out and moving up the ranks. But then as soon as I saw that one, I was like a believer. I just felt like that was a really big win for you.

Unknown Speaker 14:12
Yeah, it was a good one. Just, it's always good to have more evidence, more reassurance, you know? So that's what I'm looking to do with three weeks. Oh, even further, you know, whenever y'all see these things, this isn't just somebody I'll be coming. I've already been this. But you know, I mean,

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I feel like you're just super hot right? Now. Everyone's talking about you. You're headlining, you're creating some awesome content. You know, even right now you kind of have like a more reserved demeanor about you, but then you put out some content you're like, This is a goofy motherfucker like, wow, this guy has. It seems like you have two different sides, like a savage fucking beast inside the cage. And then when you feel like it, you just like silly and you just, you know, it's like, do you enjoy making people laugh? Do you feel like that's a big part of your personality?

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Everybody has multiple sides from I don't have two sides. I got many sides when the sides. Yeah, I like to make people laugh. You know, I like to walk past, you know, I like to. I like the like the like, like the

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All right, all right, there's not two sides. There's many sides to Jamal Hill. All right well you're you're doing great things you're headlining, now you have this platform, right? We all have a platform when we get into the UFC, and sometimes people use that to be an advocate for something, you know, we want to talk about this want to talk about that? Me? You know, I am sober. I bring that up very often. Is there something that you want to use your platform for?

Unknown Speaker 15:41
promote myself, promote my brand, and then whatever causes and things that come that come along that I feel I need to be involved in? I will, you know, I mean, but the biggest thing is to have a brand you gotta have a name, you got to have some standoff. Yeah. That's, that's the main thing. I'll use my platforms for now.

Unknown Speaker 16:00
For sure. And it doesn't really matter. You know, you can you can believe in something and be an advocate for something. But if you're not winning fights, people don't want to listen to you. So I think you know, you got to focus on the right things first, and then talk about what you want to talk about. So well, I want to talk about

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conversations as they come up. I'm not stuck in just one thing, because there's a lot of things that need to be talked about and need to be I mean, address and shit like that. So I'm not just gonna fit myself in it just oh, this is what I'm having. I mean, I'm an advocate for change positivity and progression

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for sure. Nice. You Are you a big self improvement person? Do you like read self help books? Are you you know trying to better yourself? Are you just out here fucking fighting and

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self help book they tell me they're trying to improve on myself I look at I look at look at what happened. Is that what is that? How did it turn out? How I wanted it to turn out? No. Why? What didn't turn out the way I wanted to? How can I change? And I keep doing that? It's all you can do. I don't need somebody tell me what to try to try to do. Or something. I go through these situations.

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If you're not reading self help books, who are some people maybe in your life that are helping you improve your life right now?

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My circle, you know, I mean, I got my people I got my I got my I got my my man's I saw it as we meet with me every day. You know, we always work and put together content, throwing out ideas, thinking you don't mean thinking, just bumping heads together. I need that I need somebody I can bounce things off of my mind. Don't stop working. You know, I got my coaches. You know, I mean, I got my family. You know, I mean, and just you guys,

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you got a big family. So, everyone knows I do just a little bit of research on my guess. So I kind of get a heads up. I don't want to do too much. Because then it doesn't. It's not organic, right. So I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. I'm doing my research fight stuff. And I see you got six kids. So automatically, I'm like, alright, this kids like this guy likes having sex. So tell me six kids, what's your mentality? You know, you had your first kid 14 years ago, right? Yeah, so six kids. So I want I want to know all about it. You know, did you want to have a good family early on?

Unknown Speaker 18:16
I mean, I guess yes. And no, I mean, like, I mean, I always want to kids and stuff, but like, it's just like, it happens. It happens in the midst of in the midst of it, you know, man, in our hair being grown and shit like that?

Unknown Speaker 18:32
Yeah, I mean, sometimes you can plan kids and you know, sometimes, like you said, it just happens. Have you ever planned a kid? Or is it more just going with the flow? And whatever happens happens?

Unknown Speaker 18:45
Have I ever planned a kid and like, what it is? Is the house ready for him on a job plan? No, I plan to have sex and I knew who I knew what could possibly come from that. So?

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Wow, old were you when you had your first kid? 1515 And you're ready, and you're ready to man up? Because now a lot of a lot of men would do that. Right? I had no choice. Yeah, you know, I we all we all have choices. And some some men choose to run away. For you, you had no choice.

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Yeah, and for me, I had no choice. You know, I mean, yeah, some men run away. Some women run away. You know, I mean, you're right. Everybody has choices all depends on who you are, and what you what you want to stand for things like that. Well, I want to ask you different,

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a little bit about your background, because I feel like based on our backgrounds, you know, that you know, we're a product of our environment is what I think and you know, you can always change your background. You know, you're not we don't have a glass, we don't have a ceiling, you know, just because you're coming from lesser means or whatever doesn't mean that you can't change things. Say it again. The time is, you know,

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are you happy So your background

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you can't change your background but you can change. You don't have to be what where you came from you know, you're not the, you know where you came from is not the ceiling, you can always go higher is what I'm saying. So I want to know, you know, since you're saying right off the bat you you don't have a choice. You just decided to man up like what kind of background you come in from, like you are from Michigan. What was your family environment growing up like?

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I was, I was born. I was born in Chicago, Chicago. I grew up I grew up like, like, like, child like little kid. And so I grew up down in Southern Illinois. Like, oh, Williamson County.

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Dog is that

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chef's? Shepherd husky.

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Cutie. We're all about bullies over here, pit bulls and bullies.

Unknown Speaker 21:01
I know about it. But I grew up down in Southern Illinois, like, I mean, we had, like, I had, like a lot of freedom. Growing up as a kid, you know, like, down where I was now where I lived at, like, I'd be like, three, four years old, I'd be across town running around and playing. And some, you know, I'm saying, like, we had, like, we had like a little close knit community that kind of looked out for each other and things like that. You know, my dad, my dad, and my mom had a whole situation, whatever it was, whatever, they broke up. And no, my dad was there. I learned. I learned a lot from my dad. Well, he was there. But he wasn't there. Like, like consistent like that. So you know, you grew up around that you hear that all your dad is your dad, dad, you know, I'm saying that you want to do better, you want to be better. So that was that played a part? In my decision. I just always wanted to be better wanted to level up.

Unknown Speaker 21:54
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, you can either, you know, go one of two ways, right? You can end up like your, your, your upbringing, or you can decide that that's not what you want to be like. And that's something that I personally did.

Unknown Speaker 22:05
I don't know that. Because that's one thing a lot is weird. Or a lot of people will like a lot of people being for me, like for me, they like feel like it's like, just like a cliche thing to say like, oh, I want my kids to be better than me. But if you ain't shit, I mean, they don't have to be much at anything. So, people love to say that. But what are you doing? So I had, so I wanted to be better. I always wanted to be better. And yeah, I want my kids to be better than me. And I'm gonna set that bar high and above.

Unknown Speaker 22:31
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's harder to get to because you've already, you've already accomplished a lot. And you're only 31 Does it? You've got to the UFC. That's a lot more than what, you know, a lot of people can say,

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I expected to do that. I expected that. From the jump from the time I got into this. That's what I that's what I came here for. I mean, yes, a good accomplishment. And I do appreciate and I acknowledge how hard that was. But that ain't shit. I'm here for I'm here for. I'm not here to just win some fights, you don't mean to just be like, oh, yeah, I'm here to lay like, like, like one of those marks. For real. I feel like I'm special. I feel like the things that I can do in there are special. And like, and there's like something like people have never seen before. You know, and I hold myself to that. You know, regardless of what anybody thinks my limitations are whatever they feel like I can do. You don't have to fucking show me. I mean, yeah, and I'm a Hardhead goes on to

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do you think you're just now getting started?

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Just I'm just what I just got done wiping my feet on the mat. I'm just now stepping in and door.

Unknown Speaker 23:37
I feel that I do feel that I feel like this is like the beginning. You know, you've been in the game for a minute, like you said, you know, but you know, people don't know all the hard work that we put in leading up to this. They don't know that. But I can see I can really see like your your stock is starting to rise. So you know, I guess I asked you about your background, because I want to know, like, What gave you that mentality? Because it's that mentality that got you where you're at right now, even though it's not much right now. You want to go farther, but you know, people can't get to where you're getting so how did you get there? How do you get that mentality?

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Man? Like the mentality? I have a what, like one more?

Unknown Speaker 24:12
Yeah, you know, right now, you said, that ain't shit, you know, like, it is shit. But like I have. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 24:22
I mean, and then and then in a world you know, I mean, one thing about people we're gonna say economically people that are on the left, I mean, that on the lower half of the lower half of the economic ladder. All they do is kind of flaunt what they can show you. I mean, this person, oh, I got this. I got this. I got that. You grew up around that illusion and then you grow up. You see what was really going on? And all you realize that that ain't shit. Yeah. You know, I mean, yeah. So I was like, Alright, so how so you already gonna set the bar to try to get to this. Alright, so I will let you know. I'm just going to do this. So now this ain't the top echelon. This ain't the top of the ladder. So you got to keep climbing. Yeah, that's all I do. And whether it's in the cage in the UFC in life period.

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Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's a great mindset. You've heard the phrase resting on your laurels. Yeah, you know, so like, I always think of that term because people always are like, Ashley, you knocked out the transgender and like, for some people, like, that's good enough. Like, that's the coolest thing. But like, I'm like, always, in my mind, I'm like, I want to, I want to do something so cool. That, that it tops that, you know, like a lot of people rest on their laurels what they've already accomplished. But, you know, I think the way to keep going and getting getting better is to not rest on your laurels. So you mentioned your background, not having much now you want more for your kids. I love that. But I want to know, like, you know, your dad wasn't there all the time? Maybe But who was like a role model for you? Was it your dad or another person who taught you about girls? And, you know, or was it something that you kind of just had to figure out on your own?

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Yeah, I mean, my dad was there. I mean, my it was a combination. It was like, like this, most people like to feel like, give I get, there's just one person credit and my mom does deserve a lot of credit. I mean, make no mistake about it, you know, I mean, but it takes a village to raise a man to raise to raise a child. And I'm not I don't, I don't ignore the fact that I wish I had brothers. And, and as a collective, like I told you before going into an interview, I'm comfortable talking about anything, I could talk about anything, because that's all we did. You know, I'm saying, you know, my mom, my mom works. My mom had a mom had other things and then whenever she wasn't able to work, you know, because of an accident. She, she had she had other things, you know, I mean, so we had us you know, we we huddled there. We had our boys that was like our brothers. You know, I mean, we just talked about it. That's how we talked to girls like hey, oh, man, what you doing? He's talking to me. You chop it up and you for you go through trial and error. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of trial and error.

Unknown Speaker 26:53
Yeah. How many how many brothers you have?

Unknown Speaker 26:57
Biologically, my mom has four sons, including us on me. So I got three brothers there. And then I have I have a younger brother. Oh my Oh my My dad has a as a guy has our youngest brother. And then he had he he had a brother that we pray so we pretty much grew up around him. That was that so that was I was our brother. That's my brother, too. He passed away when I was my brother events. And then we got I got I got two guy brothers that I grew up with us too.

Unknown Speaker 27:28
Wow. So just a big old family. Yeah, you had plenty of male I don't know about role models, but just other males.

Unknown Speaker 27:35
This like that's like almost all that will be considered like immediate like tight family. Now, now I have other guy brothers. I have other guys that are that are still my brother's two.

Unknown Speaker 27:47
Big Ass family. That's crazy. So what age did you start dating? You had your first kid at 15. When did you start? You know, even talking to girls and trying to hook up?

Unknown Speaker 28:04
I thought about talking about everything and I just thought about that. Alright, so his sister. My sister is the oldest. Alright, how old is she? is the oldest my sister right now. I think my sister about 38.

Unknown Speaker 28:17
Okay. Okay, like a seven year gap from you and her. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 28:21
I was like, a little bit like, Oh my God, he's so cute like that. So I was around. So I was around all of that when they sent in a little powwow. Oh, okay. And about I was a little one and they laughed that they just wanted to bounce around and stuff like that, you know, I was him. I was with my sister. Most people like a lot of times. I was really when my sister. Okay. I learned so you know, I paid attention. I've always been observed if I paid attention. You know, some things kind of stuck with me. Yeah. You said when I started dating,

Unknown Speaker 28:49
yeah, like you know, like you like a girl you're flirting with her. But then it's like, then you it gets real, you know?

Unknown Speaker 28:56
He was just talking about so I mean, that whole experience and everything was a little different for me just because of like the circumstances and things or other situations but the idea I had I think like my first girlfriend like like all this my girlfriend like I remember like, was like kindergarten.

Unknown Speaker 29:11
Okay. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 29:12
I mean, like, I just want to go over and get her kids and stuff like that.

Unknown Speaker 29:17
For sure. So what age between kindergarten and 15 Did you actually lose your virginity and have sex?

Unknown Speaker 29:27
I think I was 14

Unknown Speaker 29:29
Okay, I was expecting something crazy because I was like first 15

Unknown Speaker 29:34
Now don't get me wrong. I did shit. Like as far as like, slight like Like,

Unknown Speaker 29:39
like, like, intercourse.

Unknown Speaker 29:41
Intercourse to course. Like slide in there. Yeah. That was like when I was like 14 Okay, so like, but I had already not like the porno and type shit. So I already knew like your bios. It wasn't like I was like I was just Going in, like, blind like, I knew, but I didn't know.

Unknown Speaker 30:04
Did you have? Did you like you're 31? So it's not like you're super young but you got a couple years younger than me that you obviously had access to the internet. Were you watching a lot of porn when you were young? Like,

Unknown Speaker 30:15
look what you me you. You like what you thought of? Well, like you just said How old are you?

Unknown Speaker 30:19
35 I just turned 35 Older ship.

Unknown Speaker 30:23
US grown grown up have you had to get DVDs and video VHS? Why no internet. I grew up with where I was that we had

Unknown Speaker 30:34
I love Yeah, we had dial up. Yeah, my first porn I saw was a VHS tape I found in my dad's drawer and had to put it in and then it was like, like, took it out. It was like, you know, like, you know, VHS like you'd turn the little wheel and shit.

Unknown Speaker 30:48
Yeah, I remember that. That's they want the same thing I found. I think what what? I had that big. And like, oh my god record over she'll pop a tape and record a movie over that bitch. She fucked around somehow they end up getting thrown in with a big ass box. All the other tape. Oh, no. I end up finding it. Pop it in. I remember it. I remember exactly what it's called my husband's watch. Oh, my husband's watching. My husband's watching. You're like

Unknown Speaker 31:17
this is not Aladdin. What the hell?

Unknown Speaker 31:21
Oh, look. Real. Life Are you serious? No, I'm not even making this shit up. It said Aladdin on the side. It was a little sticker. He had to stick. Yes. Yeah. I

Unknown Speaker 31:39
don't know. Damn, that's crazy. That's crazy.

Unknown Speaker 31:43
Well, look, I think it's more fun because you got to I held on to yours.

Unknown Speaker 31:51
Are you saying that VHS just like under your pillow?

Unknown Speaker 31:55
Took it I don't hear it all the time. Our little spot for me whenever I wanted to just pop it in the back watching some expose to me. I know no about masturbating or no shit like that.

Unknown Speaker 32:08
You didn't ask? You just watched it.

Unknown Speaker 32:10
I was like, I was like six or seven.

Unknown Speaker 32:13
You know, people

Unknown Speaker 32:16
like five or six.

Unknown Speaker 32:17
You know people discover their bodies at different ages. I didn't start doing stuff till I was in my teens. But there's kids that are touching themselves don't know what they're doing but they're touching themselves at a young age is just human nature. You know, but you were just watching tape at early age.

Unknown Speaker 32:32
Your clip right here. I'm already knowing so as you put the title on this on the video people don't watch. So the first time I was I was like seven. First time you ever came. First time I ever got here.

Unknown Speaker 32:44
Oh good. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 32:46
Wow. Seven. Before I was so before I ever had sex. I already had Hey, I've already gotten.

Unknown Speaker 32:52
Yeah. What? No, I'm sorry, older girl.

Unknown Speaker 32:57
She was a little bit older. She was like, maybe like 10 or 11. But she was like, I don't know what the fuck she saw like me and thinking in my mind. I don't know what she had saw at the time. She was just like, trying to solve it. Yeah, she was multiple, like multiple. Like, me, my brothers. I think she might even did her brother. I don't need Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh my gosh, she was just it was yeah, it was Wow. She had

Unknown Speaker 33:21
some issues she she was she was probably subjected to some shit way too early.

Unknown Speaker 33:26
He was like too young to actually even know what the fuck she was really doing timesheet? Yeah. All of those words. You know, I

Unknown Speaker 33:31
mean, yeah, damn.

Unknown Speaker 33:34
happened. But like

Unknown Speaker 33:37
you got head before sex. You're watching tape.

Unknown Speaker 33:42
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the tape was funny as hell. I remember that shit. That was back. Do you remember back it was back in the day. They had a story. It's just like a background tool. So the bedroom it was called the name of it was my husband is watching. And it was called that because do I guess his like his wife wasn't like having sex with him. So he was just like this horny as doing he was just going around his neighborhood like peeking through windows or he just ain't just catching people having sex or the sexes would just be like, Yeah, I mean, him stumbling upon his neighbor's. The second him recording it through like the window or some shit. Then I think like at the end, his wife out the tape and then she was like, oh, I should fuck it and she fuck.

Unknown Speaker 34:26
That just sounds like a guy just like creeping and like made a bootleg porn basically is what it sounds like.

Unknown Speaker 34:38
There's got to be a camera showing the husband too. So he's like showing him watch and so it's like a ball like thing

Unknown Speaker 34:44
down. Okay, so you watch that porn. So 15 years old. You only been having sex for about a year. You get a girl pregnant

Unknown Speaker 34:53
I second girl I six week got pretty.

Unknown Speaker 34:58
Damn that is unlucky. almost the first girl

Unknown Speaker 35:01
okay, I can make it even even deeper than that. She's the first girl I actually came with, like cane like, like, the first time when I lost my virginity i didn't know i She was first time my first time having sex and shit was like, I was like, bro this shit trash

Unknown Speaker 35:17
everyone is like that. Everyone's like that everyone's like that.

Unknown Speaker 35:23
The middle I wasn't you wouldn't let me stick the whole thing. Yeah. Like, none of it was it was just bad

Unknown Speaker 35:29
because it's bad for females too. We bleed it hurts. You know, like fucking

Unknown Speaker 35:34
wasn't a virgin? No.

Unknown Speaker 35:37
Okay, well, I mean, she sounds like she was

Unknown Speaker 35:40
romantic. My shit was not romantic. Literally. What it basically was your man is my bro. You WILL FUCKING birds like you basically like, bro, you fucking Shut up birds and you can't talk this can't do that. You know, I mean, and like I had girls don't get me wrong. I just run fucking. I just tell him to do Yeah, I'm sad. And then like, really? I really? I broke up with this with this one girl and it was just like, at that point. I was like, you know, just get it out the way type shit. Yeah. I knew I knew this girl. I like shit. Like, I really didn't like her. Like she she she liked me. I mean, I knew I knew I could do it, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Was my mom was going she was in Chicago. whenever, whenever. Whenever I did this shit, bro. That was the first thing she said when she came back she had already knew. I'm like, oh.

Unknown Speaker 36:34
Okay, I want to ask you a real last question. You got six kids, you started early. Would you tell yourself like, hey, Jamal, like, let's hold off on having these kids, or are you happy that you started early?

Unknown Speaker 36:51
I mean, obviously, I would have rather been been in a better, better situation and everything like that. But everything that I have been doing, she made me who I am. Who I am is the reason why I'm thriving. You know, I'm saying? I don't know. I mean, do you want to want to play with the butterfly effect?

Unknown Speaker 37:08
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. And I, you know, no regrets kind of situation in my mind. You know, I really think that there's no fucking point in having regrets.

Unknown Speaker 37:18
certain steps and certain things that I did that changed. If anything, I would have, I would have gone I would have dove into MMA and gone pro sooner. You would definitely know who I am like I have. I'm not new to this shit. Yeah, I've been fighting 1010

Unknown Speaker 37:33
That's what I'm saying. I'm saying because it's not that you haven't been working. We all just know. Having a bunch of kids. It makes life harder. Fuck

Unknown Speaker 37:41
it makes things Ma Ma. Well, it made me have to get into it. Maybe have to put up roadblocks and hurdles that I had to get that I had to get over. Yeah, yeah. But what I've had your strength I wish there would have been roadblocks and hurdles. Anyway. They were my drive to get over those. So do I still have that drive to push over those? Those roadblocks? Those hurdles? No.

Unknown Speaker 38:07
And, you know, I do think that I don't know I don't have a kid. But you know, some people say that you fight with this a different sense of urgency. You've got fucking six mouths to feed now.

Unknown Speaker 38:17
No, I mean, I don't look at it like that. Like I'm I'm away more I think I'm way more level headed deeper things that are not. I understand that a fight has rules. And there's a game it was a game to be played. You know, I'm saying so no matter how many kids you got that motherfucker got kids too. You got to got a family that needs us in a war zone. He wants to get them out of what I'm saying here. Come down to the X's and O's. And that's what I focus on. I mean able to provide do for my kids that comes obviously the feeling of that and the thought of that and really after I'm already I've already accomplished that shit after it's already

Unknown Speaker 38:57
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it sounds like it sounds like you're the same fighter in there because you know you know that with kids or without kids you still gonna perform the same? Yeah, this is this is a very forward question. Do you not believe in contraceptive six kids. Birth control.

Unknown Speaker 39:21
That ain't how I'm not. I can't force nobody to be on birth control.

Unknown Speaker 39:25
No, you can wrap it up. You wrap it up. Jamal. Well I'm not saying force anybody but like, you know, condoms are a thing.

Unknown Speaker 39:34
It kind of almost says I will say so. Girl. Y'all have a jumbo size. Big Big Sur thing to condoms break.

Unknown Speaker 39:44
They got those Magnum sizes out there. Come on.

Unknown Speaker 39:48
I well aware of those they break.

Unknown Speaker 39:51
So they need extra they need extra strength magnums is what you're saying.

Unknown Speaker 39:57
While it may not listen to me,

Unknown Speaker 39:59
you're right. I'm emails every day like look strengthened these fucking

Unknown Speaker 40:07
arrows funny. Oh real, real talk like kind of like like one of my dad was kind of like here's the thing All right. Here's one thing people don't want to talk about you want to talk about women are emotional. They got the jogger instrument having had instincts and shit like that, too. So it just sounds like your sound your sound check guys, man, so I'm gonna check. I'm gonna check in with him on this one. So my brother killed him. Yeah. So have you ever been there? Have you been fucking? And I want to set up YouTube. You've been having intercourse. And you have you have you got Jimmy yo is never broken or slipped off.

Unknown Speaker 40:53
Never broken or slipped off his old man. I've had that shit snap in half.

Unknown Speaker 40:57
All right. The friction, the friction. You had you had you had that restraint. You had that little us getting a little minimum to push. And when that broke all of that full feeling and all of that came on there. Right? Hell yeah. He's the one that did the first thing you'll hit gonna be the stop. Hell no. I mean, you look for something around the past. You can't stop. And you can do that. And I'm not saying they break all the time. Right.

Unknown Speaker 41:28
But especially what do you pack? You know, like sometimes, like in my younger days I used to

Unknown Speaker 41:41
Yeah. We've all drink a little too much.

Unknown Speaker 41:46
While we're while I'm all come out.

Unknown Speaker 41:49
What is his name? Wild Mall. I'll just talk a wild Mall. knots. All right, I got a Smashley side. But I try to suppress you know. So good. It's all good. So all right. What? What's going on? Now? You got this?

Unknown Speaker 42:12
Oh, no, no, no, we're not. We're not just gonna be I'm not gonna be more just pinned up against the wall up over here. Okay, so why don't you have kids? Oh, well, you can say you can't be like, Oh, I wear a condom every time. All of that you've been on birth control your whole time. You might have sex.

Unknown Speaker 42:28
You know, I'll be real honest. Because that's what this show is all about. Well, I don't even want kids. And the great thing about that is I got the baby maker so I don't got to put my faith in anyone else. You know, like, even if the guy doesn't wrap it up. I got the IUD. You know the little goalie

Unknown Speaker 42:44
that ain't been around you 35 I'm gonna fuck it just came out. Like when was that?

Unknown Speaker 42:48
Like, I've had this thing for two rounds. And it's good for five years each. So it's been out for a decade.

Unknown Speaker 42:55
Game if I can log it in a decade. You said you lost your virginity.

Unknown Speaker 42:57
We're a bit funky longer than a decade. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 43:01
virginity.

Unknown Speaker 43:03
I lost my virginity at 15 on my 15th birthday to a guy who was 19 who was like one of those dirt bike guys. He was so cool at the time. And now I look back hooked up with say it again.

Unknown Speaker 43:15
It was the your boyfriend. It was just

Unknown Speaker 43:17
he was just like, Tony. He was like a 19 year old like druggie guy who I thought was so cool. And then looking back I'm like, wow, I hooked up with a loser. Just a complete No, but so I'm not I love kids. I don't want kids that's different.

Unknown Speaker 43:35
You just talk to random. That's basically what I got from that.

Unknown Speaker 43:39
Yeah, I had a crush on him. You know when you're a little girl when you're a little girl. He's not a random you're writing fucking his name and your book and all that, you know. He wasn't a random but he wasn't my boyfriend.

Unknown Speaker 43:49
Oh, he was. He was y'all. He was your guy. He was he was he was him. He was too

Unknown Speaker 43:53
cool for school. Yeah. And I and then I, I had this whole thing in my head. I was it's gonna be beautiful. And then I was on a couch and

Unknown Speaker 44:02
I get that I know. Exactly. Because I had that situation before only gives us I did not do that. I couldn't do it just for the fact that I am terrified. I've been terrified my entire life of a sexual assault case of any fucking type. Yeah, that's to any of this anywhere. I'm not. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, you look uncomfortable at all. We stop it. I ain't doing nothing. Yeah, it'll be complete 100% You got to be Oh, me like applying type shit. Otherwise,

Unknown Speaker 44:34
how do you as a male and all these young girls look like super old now? How do you navigate the dating world? Because you're single right? You don't date. But what do you have PTSD? You think you're gonna have another kid?

Unknown Speaker 44:49
Ah. Come from relationships. Say it again. My kids didn't come from relationships. A little bit more close. was getting closer and more and more tighter situations. Yeah, man. And I mean, there's just, there's just a fuck buddy type shit. I mean, but it's like, I that whole label the whole label thing and things like that y'all kind of lost me with that just for the simple fact of like, there is no defined roles, like there is no defined roles labeling what relationship like I'm not I'm not I don't belong to nobody no, nobody below me

Unknown Speaker 45:28
know but don't you think that being with someone like you can come to a mutual agreement that you're going to be exclusive sexually, like that's usually the basic terms of a relationship, right? Like, hey, I don't want to be with anyone else. You don't want to be with them. Unless you're polyamorous right?

Unknown Speaker 45:46
Successful. That's who they're supposed to be. Like, like, like, everybody can agree that people are animals and people are prime, right? Yeah. So what other what other animal mammal out here is is monogamous?

Unknown Speaker 46:05
Well, I'm not sure that that's what we are supposed to do. Because we are so primal. Right? I think that society has formed these ideals in into our brains thinking like, Okay, you have to partner up and you only have sex with that person. That's why you have a whole unorthodox say, to get

Unknown Speaker 46:23
those ideals keep changing, like the Asus ideology says that a man is supposed to provide for you protect you, you know, all these other things. You know, I mean, yeah, when? When technical and when, man. Say it, say it, Jamal. I lost my train of thought,

Unknown Speaker 46:46
well, you know, I'll tell you this Jamal, like, I think what you're leaning towards is an open relationship. You know, have you ever been with someone and you're like, hey, you fuck who you want i folk who I want. And we just we spend time together. And that's cool.

Unknown Speaker 46:58
That's pretty much the situation. And that's pretty much the situations like like, I mean, it was that what is what is that? What does that that's what that is?

Unknown Speaker 47:06
Yeah, sure. But then there's some other people who enjoy the titles, right? Because they have to have that society's little like, oh, demand for sure. Hey, this is not about me. This is about you. I'm just asking you. What do you want to live your life? You know, do you don't date anyone?

Unknown Speaker 47:22
And I'm good on that. Just for the simple fact of what is the like I'm supposed to it's just a headache, Doc. Yeah. Do you want to do you want to benefit?

Unknown Speaker 47:34
sharing your life with someone and then sharing like your goals and triumphs and struggles and having support and love and care?

Unknown Speaker 47:41
Yeah, that'd be nice. But what's the what? What does that mean? If what also comes with that is ritual, like headache, like daily headaches? Not even really, truly important to you what your life goals are, or maybe it's truly not important to that, but it's still a headache. It's still something, you know, I mean, it's like, it's just too much. Like, you gotta you gotta, you got to do this, this, this, this, that another to keep her happy. And all this, this and that. And no matter what, no matter what you do, you know, I mean, it should go wrong. It's your fault. Like, what's the incentive? Like, there's really no incentive for me to really be in a relationship. Because here's the thing, get married, and I have to give away half of my shit.

Unknown Speaker 48:22
You don't have to get married. Me and my partner are not getting married. We don't we don't believe in that. We've been together for three years. We don't want kids we don't wanna get married. We're living outside the box. But you know, everybody's on the scale of in a relationship somewhere you can be open fucking whoever you want no labels, or you can do say it again.

Unknown Speaker 48:41
Is an open relationship. So why are you making him your boyfriend? Because here's the thing.

Unknown Speaker 48:45
No, we're not we're not an open relationship. We don't fuck other people. I'm saying that you have the whole scale me and my guy. You know

Unknown Speaker 48:53
you have you're both happy he has you have right

Unknown Speaker 48:57
yeah, yeah, there's but it comes with headaches. And but I've also found someone

Unknown Speaker 49:01
because everything come with headaches. But here's the thing. All right, like like like as a man as a man what do you do for him to secure and make sure that that He's happy? He's good and he's alright and content with just

Unknown Speaker 49:12
you? Oh, I do things Jamal.

Unknown Speaker 49:16
Things because every a lot of things. I

Unknown Speaker 49:19
think what I do is on an emotional and a physical level. So I'm no no, I'm a cancer, but we're like the homemakers right? So I'm very complimentary. I like to make my man feel good. Physically. I'm very touchy. You know, his love language is touch. So I'm always touching him. You know, there's things that you can do.

Unknown Speaker 49:35
It's got to be Is he there? Is he is that does that sound producing your boyfriend? No. I was about to say like, it's like, just like this, um, this song, this song because like, it will have to be some like, if you asked him what you do for him and what you think you're doing for him. That keeps you around? It's probably two different things.

Unknown Speaker 49:55
I don't think so. I think we talk a lot. I think we talk a lot

Unknown Speaker 50:01
Believe it, or not about a program that he's also programmed to keep you happy. Let you know what you want to hear things like that.

Unknown Speaker 50:08
I feel like when I talk to you and you talk about relationships in this, it seems like you haven't found someone who meshes well with your lifestyle, someone who understands what a fighter and someone who's trying to be a champion needs in their life, someone who has to basically understand that this sport is selfish as fuck, but they need to support you. And then you got to give a little bit obviously, you can't just be expecting everything and not giving anything back.

Unknown Speaker 50:34
Know what you mean, not expecting anything back? Because there's no no finos fucking we don't do it and not expected. You know, I'm

Unknown Speaker 50:41
saying you gotta give a little bit you can't expect nothing back. You know what I mean? But like, I feel like you need someone in your life who understands that you're on a mission to be a champion right now. And

Unknown Speaker 50:52
forget that because here's the thing, that's my goal. And that's my mission. That's my, that's my job to make sure that I'm successful in that. No, I mean, I want what I need, I need somebody I need a woman that's gonna, that's gonna respect me as a man. Follow my lead. And be a be a supporting a supportive teammate. Yeah, try to, like the thing about women nowadays, they too masculine, y'all try to be the man. And then anytime you ask a woman like, Yo, what's like, you know, me, I had to be the man I had to be. You did? You know, I mean, you chose you chose to have those mass healing qualities and things like that. And I'm gonna be real. That's like, the main thing, the main thing that like really, like turning me off all females, like from relationship like type bill is just the level of masculinity. They don't want. They don't want to be they don't want a man, they want to be the man.

Unknown Speaker 51:42
Hands on who you talk to? Because there's definitely you know, like, I always say it's on a scale, right? You got women over here who kind of want to be taken care of very traditional type of mindset. Then you got a woman on the other side. Oh, that lets 2022 a bitch. Learn to take care of herself, you know, can't really can't rely on you guys all the time.

Unknown Speaker 52:05
yourself. Traditional investment?

Unknown Speaker 52:07
No, hell no. I'm like the opposite of a traditional mindset, traditional,

Unknown Speaker 52:12
traditional relationship with this man that you're with, right? Pretty traditional. You'd be mad, right? Oh, hell yeah, we'd be over. So, so so. So how are you not tradition? What does matter? Just do you cook?

Unknown Speaker 52:26
You clean? No, I don't cook at all. But I am a

Unknown Speaker 52:29
part of that. That's even worse. Just the fact that you fuck him is not enough. Is the fact that you fuck him is not enough.

Unknown Speaker 52:38
What about given this? What about building this man up on an emotional and a mental level, the kind of reassurance that no one can give you unless they truly know you. I've seen you struggle, your background, the kind of connection that you build with someone over the years. That's what you need is someone who truly loves you and can support you and build you up by you know,

Unknown Speaker 52:59
the stages to give them today. How did you get to talking about before you even get to that? Before you get to that? What do you mean? You gotta you gotta you gotta get to that. But you just

Unknown Speaker 53:09
gotta keep dating Jim, I feel like you've given up have you given up on dating

Unknown Speaker 53:13
things and things like that. I was, you know, playing a long game.

Unknown Speaker 53:18
Well, I mean, the dating game is

Unknown Speaker 53:20
obviously if I see these intangibles that you I mean, that I mean that I that I that I see that I want that. Yeah, but other than that I'm good.

Unknown Speaker 53:32
I'm gonna talk to you in a in a few years after you've, you know, when the belt and you settle down a little bit, and you're like, Man, I could not see out of my tunnel vision, which is good, which is

Unknown Speaker 53:45
I still got like, I still got just like, like, like, my kids, my kids and their mother. They like, I mean, she she lives with me. You know, I mean, like, I just the whole, the whole label thing. And everything like that is just like it's just like, you don't

Unknown Speaker 54:03
need labels can ask you a question without labels

Unknown Speaker 54:06
and personal issues and things like that. Things like me. That is the reason why I mean, I am the way I'm gonna say two things about

Unknown Speaker 54:13
Yeah, for sure. Can I ask you a question about without labels? Let's say you met a girl. You like her? You're at a function. You guys start talking. She likes you you like her? How does that go down? You just you hook up with her? But then you tell her like hey I'm out here trying to be a champion I'm not looking for that you know?

Unknown Speaker 54:38
No, I don't I don't I don't hook up with my own just hook up with them. I tell them like right off right off the bat like I asked her was I asked what's being asked if you asked me like you know I mean situation any election I'm gonna keep a watch on it which you know, um, but but in doing that, you know that I'm not that's not what I'm that's not what I'm looking for. That's not what I'm on. All

Unknown Speaker 55:00
right, well, I want to ask you like, you know, what kind of girl do you like, you know, but you're so it sounds like you're so focused on not dating. But can we talk about what kind of woman to do like, like a physical trait, as well as like a characteristic

Unknown Speaker 55:11
date? I'm not focused on dating. It's just Jamie's not something that I care about. It's not something that I'm, I mean, it's nice. I'm not out here looking like looking for my looking for my princess type shirt.

Unknown Speaker 55:22
Yeah, well, you don't date but you do. Fuck. We know your we know you're sexually active. You got six kids, unless you haven't been sexually active for a long time. So maybe you don't date these women. But you're, you know, hanging out with that. What do you want to call it?

Unknown Speaker 55:39
Whatever, whatever you want to call it.

Unknown Speaker 55:41
Okay. All right. Well, I want to ask you some awkward questions to get you to blush.

Unknown Speaker 55:46
Hey, what are we talking about? No Labels made immediately, or whatever you want to call it that put a label on

Unknown Speaker 55:51
it. i It's hard not to label things. Because I think when you label things, it gives you a sense of direction. You know, you know what I'm talking about? When I label something.

Unknown Speaker 55:59
It gives you a sense of entitled, you want to know really, really truly, truly? Why I why I don't why I have no interest in dating. Yeah, I do. This was truly what I say like, I truly don't feel like women. Women, the respect the respect in the roles, and everything. Like that is all messed up. It's all messed up. You really

Unknown Speaker 56:19
want a traditional woman. Hmm. You said what you really want a traditional woman will have to be that. Okay? Yeah, there are women out there like that. Who want to be taken care of. There are women out there who

Unknown Speaker 56:33
care that's not the job, everybody.

Unknown Speaker 56:37
Did I strike a nerve? Did I strike a nerve? What's going on?

Unknown Speaker 56:41
Like, because it's like, that's funny to me. Because here's the thing you can ask any female? What they what they what? What salary do they expect in a man anyway? Oh, he's got to have a job. He got this. The craziest, most delusional ones gonna be like, Oh, he needed to make like six figures need to make, like 50,000 75,000 shit like that. Like, that's not realistic. The only thing you're offering this man is

Unknown Speaker 57:07
sex? No. I think your opinion of women is super low. If you think all we offer a man is sex.

Unknown Speaker 57:14
super low? And is what is what I meant to cooking, cleaning all of that, like you unify like you wanted the first female, the whole emotional level. Even still, you didn't even elaborate on that. How about would you know what a man really wants?

Unknown Speaker 57:29
So this is what I'll tell you, Jamal. So and I'm hoping it's a sex podcast as a dating podcast. It's yeah, we're all MMA fighters. But I'm open. And I tell people that the person I'm with who I've almost been with three years, it's so great because we have a relationship where we literally build each other up. So he's doing his own thing. He's a jujitsu guy, jiu jitsu event, right? And I, you know, literally help him with his I like, host his events. And then he does the same thing for me. And I'd say on a mental and emotional level, while you're like struggling to get somewhere having a partner who's like, you fucking got this baby, you're badass. You're this, you're that just literally raising you up? Is what I'm talking about. It's something that only someone who really knows what to say someone who knows your background, someone knows what you've been through. That's the kind of person

Unknown Speaker 58:16
I know these guys. Yeah, understand? Yes, I would enjoy those. I would like to have those. Let's talk about the other side that goes, they what comes with that, and the shit that comes with that is worth it?

Unknown Speaker 58:27
Well, you can't think of a relationship like someone's a coach and someone's on the team. It's an equal. It's an equal partnership. It's not someone who love the other.

Unknown Speaker 58:37
To what degree because next thing everybody says is equal to equal is equal when the rent and truly truly reality. It's not. That's not the world that we live in, was built was built was built by men, right? Who if you chip away, you should wait. The Pope, the police, all of this, all of this everything, all these safeguards, and we go straight down to primal, animal, animal, animal lifestyle, or whatever. What are the women gonna do?

Unknown Speaker 59:06
They're gonna take most of the men for protection.

Unknown Speaker 59:09
They will stick close to the men because the men are

Unknown Speaker 59:12
physically more dominant and yes can protect you say what it is, it's okay. But at the end of the day, there's other things we ain't living in the Middle Ages is not like I need to run to my horse and my night. Ah, I want to take a quick break to thank our sponsor, perfect sports. These guys are always keeping things fresh and being creative with their flavor options. Their newest flavor of diesel whey protein isolate is no different. Inspired by the fall season, perfect has come out with a limited edition Pumpkin Spice Latte flavored protein. Pumpkin Spice Latte provides a spicy and savory aromatic taste that can be enjoyed warmed or chilled. Remember guys, this is a limited edition so make sure to get your orders in soon. inventory will be going quick. As always, this new limited Deshon flavor provides you with the same benefits that diesel always does. It's third party tested for banned substances and is the highest quality that protein can be. Order yours now by heading to perfect sports.com and using my code, rebel girl for a 20% discount. Now back to the episode. I think I'm a different girl you ever dealt with though Jamal but let's get back on track. So you ain't you're single? You're single. I respect that. You're not looking to date. You have six kids, you're on your way to the top like your life is is is on a trajectory. You don't really need anyone to mess anything up. I get it. I get it. But you're probably gonna have some relations along the way, right? Yeah, no. Maybe not relations as a sex sex. We're talking about sex.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:49
I mean, people people are like, I'm gonna do people have sex? I mean, how

Unknown Speaker 1:00:53
do you abstain from sex before the fight or you? You don't have a preference?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:00
That's that's a myth to me.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:02
Yeah. Do you remember a time where you had sex before a fight versus a time where you did it? And do you remember the outcome? Okay, okay. always waited. Have you ever been asked to do anything too weird or freaky in bed that you're like? Uh, no.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:21
I want to say too weird. Just shit that I wasn't comfortable with doing. I mean, I don't

Unknown Speaker 1:01:29
just like no, that's dirty. are gonna do it? All right. Where's the craziest place you've ever had sex? Like, do you have a favorite like quickie or wild experience?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:44
Oh, favorite quick, your wild experience?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:47
Yeah, like a crazy place. You had sex.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:50
And a lot of crowd has a lot of crazy. Sex at school. Like, like, in the stairway, like during lunch?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:56
Dang. Yeah, we've already established that you were a naughty kid. You were a kid having kids.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:05
My girl like she was like, I was like, 15 She was like 18 and she stayed but she was like, she like standing like a group home or whatever. So she wasn't really we didn't really always have my senior was at school.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:16
Yeah. No privacy. No time. No time to get it on. Except for.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:21
Yeah, look, I'm filling. Filling it. Wear that skirt Ma.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:24
Oh, classes. Oh, do you have a pet peeve in the bedroom? I love asking this question because you just get all the random answers. Some people say hygiene. That's obviously number one right? Can't have a stinky partner. Anything else? That's a pet peeve?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:49
lack of enthusiasm lack of the image. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like, thing. Like, like, like, I think you seem to have a few like, I just be around. I'm just like, play. Like, I just be playing around. Like, like, like, just like, I'm not. I don't know exactly. Like, like, I have had females where I like, like, like, like, I fucked with them like that, you know? Oh, and it's just like, I've also had to stop had to wear I had this situation where it's like, Yo, every single time I want to do something, I gotta come on to you. Every time I get it, every time I shake it off. I gotta come on, you know, attention and a lack of enthusiasm makes me not I can't do it.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:28
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's horrible. You can't always be the one initiating. Or there's a term that we learned I think it was drew Dober call it star fishing where the girl just like I was like,

Unknown Speaker 1:03:45
I will be real here's the thing if she just laying there like that, I mean, she would have to distrain you in like like like purposely like like doing it otherwise you don't know what you're doing? Because the way you're supposed to be in there is that Amy was supposed to be passing you out a couple now you gotta get in there like a quarterback ready to take that snap? What's the step drop man?

Unknown Speaker 1:04:12
What's your favorite? What's your favorite thing? That a girl could tell you in bed with what's what would you like to hear from a female in bed

Unknown Speaker 1:04:27
I mean, what does anybody want to hear? Hear?

Unknown Speaker 1:04:30
You want to hear some praise? Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:35
You have not scream screams and

Unknown Speaker 1:04:38
screams and moans okay, I feel like you're holding back but okay. Excuse Oh, I could talk to you all day. Let's let's get played the lightning sex round for those of you listening who don't know what this is, it's a rapid fire Yes or No sir.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:00
ignition I thought that's all you doing.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:02
Oh no Now we're getting into it tomorrow now we got you all warmed warmed up all right lightning six round with Jamal Here we go. Do you dirty talk in bed?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:14
What is dirty talk? Like glass a shirt? Yeah, say should I take control? I'm saying what I want all right.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:21
Yeah, do you spank her like to be spanked

Unknown Speaker 1:05:26
with that don't touch my slapper you know why like you know you I've seen this run I've seen this game we played before you speak to the questions we need to talk about these questions All

Unknown Speaker 1:05:40
right, let's talk about it. So you like like to spank the girl but you don't like to get spanked? And none of

Unknown Speaker 1:05:47
that. All right. Mighty reason why? You see?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:52
Oh, all right. All right. You want to tell me why you don't like to spank. No, no, no, no, no, no, please tell me.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:01
I like I like to ask. I like to strike. Yes. You want to know why? Yeah, well, hey, what's the main way a girl gets to get the what's the main thing that girl does get a guy to pay attention to her as to attract new tour. She has a nice high wear spandex

Unknown Speaker 1:06:16
pants. shape that Oh yeah. I don't know how to shake my hands Wow Yeah, you're right. Yeah. And then he is he liked the booty that you smack it and then it like it's like water. It still jiggles for a while.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:36
Like, you gotta you like to feel the vibration. Oh, no. Oh no. Peter Parker.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:43
I never thought about that. That's that's a good another reason why you know the big booties are in style.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:50
Like the girls like to feel that clap. Oh, on edge

Unknown Speaker 1:06:53
stay. I never thought about that. Zol to the rear like reverberation. You know? Coming back on it. Okay, can we move on now? Are you ready to move on? No, you're not.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:05
In showers. There's water water running on in this like splashing the right temperature? Right,

Unknown Speaker 1:07:15
Tim? Are you okay? Smacking booty wet booty in the in the shower.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:20
What is happening? Oh, her butt cheeks.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:28
Do you like to bite? Or you like someone biting on you?

Unknown Speaker 1:07:33
You know, I didn't think I liked that. But like, I would have been a bit before like, like, not hard, but like, alright, I like that.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:40
Yeah. All right. Yeah. No blood being drawn.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:43
On the navel. There is a fighter. I never would have.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:47
Okay, okay, how about threesomes? Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, you're not about the dating life. So I figured that was gonna be good to go.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:57
Recently, like you just said threesomes like what? Like like what iron or have iron or like what's the question?

Unknown Speaker 1:08:03
So these this is a rapid fire? Yes or no? But if you want to elaborate that's totally fine. So three. You like a devil three summer like, what's the other one? A Devil's threesome?

Unknown Speaker 1:08:14
That's two horns.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:15
Two horns devil.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:19
No, God dammit.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:20
You want to just like a good Christian threesomes? You know, two girls and a guy?

Unknown Speaker 1:08:25
Hey, look. See, now we got to get off in addition. Okay. All right. So the whole thing with this like, like our folk were like that, like for real for real? Or I would even begin to try to take any type of series like that. The the two dudes is no, is no. Okay, now. I've been in some situations where it's like, this chick like, like, like, females pleasure turned me off. You know? I mean, like I said she got to be so she Angela she turned or whatever. And that's what she Oh, should we can we can we can we can flip her around. Yeah, we have some steak flip room. But I prefer to.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:15
That's That's nice of you. Okay, I see slowly

Unknown Speaker 1:09:19
crying like I just like yell they must get. It's not like I'm already like, Yo, is this Oh, girl Come let me like you. I mean, it's like it was a situation where we was kicking it. I mean, it was trying. I mean, he's drinking a shin Is she ready? Like, she will this and that. And then she like you're fine. I'm like down. Whenever

Unknown Speaker 1:09:37
you're a man of opportunities, what you're saying.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:41
Aren't we all people have? Are we all creatures of opportunity? Not? Yeah. You ever had a threesome? Yeah, you know, just containing histories?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:50
No, no, I'm saying I've had a threesome and it's been spontaneous, but I'm definitely a planner and I think females are more planners too.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:59
So that was all While playing No,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:01
no, I'm a spontaneous person.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:04
That's why we are spontaneous everybody every person No,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:08
no not no. I think you're just in your mind you're just thinking about your own personal experiences and Jamal and UFC fight that like we're unique individuals. Jamal, we love crazy we love chaos. Not everyone does. You know that

Unknown Speaker 1:10:22
like as general as situations will happen, like in like in like the circumstances should they I normally see not just me, I'm not talking from what I see. Most people when they go out and they spontaneously do some shit, if probably wasn't playing.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:38
You're right. That's what spontaneity is for sure, for sure. But there are definitely people who will plan out their sexual experiences. They're like, oh, I want a threesome. I want to go in. I'm gonna find the right guy. The right girl.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:52
Like that organic shoe. Oh, you get thrown into the situation. You don't know how you sometimes you might not know how you're gonna react. You got it? You got it. You got me, my thrill. All of that.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:03
I can tell you like excitement and spot today? For sure, do you do you watch porn? Of course. Well, some people say it desensitizes your you know your feelings and you can't come and it's not good. I don't watch it anymore. You laugh? No, that's funny. You don't think it porn desensitizes you?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:31
Like like what you mean desensitized? I think it creates an unrealistic reality and fantasy. For sure most for most.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:41
And I think that on top of that, sometimes when you visually stimulate yourself so much, it's harder for you to get off in the real world. It can make it a little bit difficult. So all right. Are you into bondage like ropes, blindfolds being tied up anything like that?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:58
All right, and by the time you're bound to that blindfold, none of that. None of that.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:04
You need to be ready to get away at any at a moment's notice.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:08
I mean, like, high side is cool. The tide has kind of back hold the head behind the back.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:16
Yeah. You know you want to change when you take away one since they say that the other ones heighten.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:24
Am I trying here now? Should I close my eyes on that? prying eyes? Whereby here's a split second. We're also fighters, you need to think about reaction. I know.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:36
I know. It's true. It's hard to it's hard to rink relinquish control when you're an alpha.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:43
No. You're not in this, like, what does she like but like for like, What is she doing?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:52
What does she do? You see, I could already tell you're on you're on guard. You know, I think like, okay, we're having sex. You should just be like,

Unknown Speaker 1:13:00
you gotta be because here's the thing as much as females like to be like, Oh, this guy is what it is that females predators, too.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:06
Yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. For sure, especially a high level athlete, you know, or trying to have another Jamel Hill baby. You know?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:17
None of that window a window and we're not doing Hey,

Unknown Speaker 1:13:20
you got it six. Is that what you're saying?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:23
I say all that but I'm very, very careful about what I do. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:29
Seventh time's the charm.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:34
Okay, average.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:37
Hey, what about role playing? GEMA? You know, you're, you're a teacher. She's a naughty school girl. Sitting late, you know, you don't want to play. prison guard prisoner? I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:54
It's just like, like, I'll be in situations where females do shit. Like,

Unknown Speaker 1:14:01
you need to mess with some more fun girls. All right. So how about sex toys?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:05
Let's go Let's No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, what do you want? Orphaned girls. What can I do for females not open. It's not open. It's not open to that. And I'm not trying to do that.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:17
Not trying to do the role playing

Unknown Speaker 1:14:20
a forced man to be in a relationship with them. I can't force them to do that. No, they trying to do

Unknown Speaker 1:14:24
it's not about forcing. It's not about forcing Jamal. It's about when you have like a relationship with someone especially and the trust is there. People are more open to doing things with someone because they trust that person to be vulnerable sexually or otherwise. And then you can get all kinds of freaky Jamal that's a benefit of having a relationship.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:45
It'll get freaky but you're talking about like rope I was talking about. Specifically specific type of

Unknown Speaker 1:14:51
girl she puts a glasses on and she's like, you're in bad boy. Like it could just be basic.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:56
They'll talk about that like dressing up and you're like No, don't do that. To me like don't do that. Don't do that way you go out in public you see a girl with glasses on you even see a girl in dressed up like a like a what's it called? Like a two fer UCT two people well type of shit. So you see that everywhere now? Yeah, especially like you live in Vegas. No, I

Unknown Speaker 1:15:19
live in Orange County.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:21
Oh you being in Vegas. You being in Vegas usually will have when you see walking down

Unknown Speaker 1:15:26
that's Vegas. That's like saying you've been to New Orleans there

Unknown Speaker 1:15:31
cork is a place to go anywhere

Unknown Speaker 1:15:37
for sure for sure but do it in the bedroom is you know I don't know Jamal. You may have like a childhood fetish you know that like you love Superman and so she dresses up like suit Wonder Woman or some shit. I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:52
Paul's fucked up. Oh, I'm just saying there's some people who are different things

Unknown Speaker 1:15:59
like that. We got like a fetish like like Superman. You like Superman. So fuck law. What are you talking about? You couldn't have said a female you don't say

Unknown Speaker 1:16:07
Superman? She dresses up like Superwoman.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:11
We're both fighters were both fighters. Okay, okay. So there were two different people I know though like to say you couldn't say cat one. No, I

Unknown Speaker 1:16:25
said okay. So she dresses up like Superwoman because you like Superman maybe it's like you do Oh all right, you're not gonna like this next question, but stuff

Unknown Speaker 1:16:44
like as far as what

Unknown Speaker 1:16:45
you like but stuff you bought stuff on? You buy stuff on a partner that not your thing?

Unknown Speaker 1:16:51
Really did I really do the bus stuff? I have had had had had had the liquids down there. You know I'm saying you're

Unknown Speaker 1:17:00
a fan or not a fan? Okay. You got a girl who will lick your butthole that's that's a girl really likes you. Or she just a freak that to

Unknown Speaker 1:17:13
say look, you don't you know you already know what I'm talking to. I don't want me. Don't walk yourself into that. Well,

Unknown Speaker 1:17:19
I will. I will lick my man's buffalo. I don't give a fuck

Unknown Speaker 1:17:22
him to tell me every butthole of every minute you lay link with your boyfriend.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:26
I haven't looked too many buttholes Jamal.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:31
I said Was he your boyfriend?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:33
Yeah. Oh yeah. If I'm doing that you're my man. Everyone Yes, every one of them. I'm not out here just giving rim jobs. No, I'm not out here giving rim jobs like they're fucking lottery tickets. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:55
I feel I feel a little I feel a little on guard. And I feel like a little lack of realness here. You need to tell me you ain't never hooked up. What do you tell him? You This is something that you do sexually. This is something that you do to please a man and you've never just spontaneously done it to your spontaneously

Unknown Speaker 1:18:08
having sex. You want to know why?

Unknown Speaker 1:18:11
I'm asking why I'm just saying I didn't have I never had

Unknown Speaker 1:18:15
I'm being honest. I'll tell you and then if I was if

Unknown Speaker 1:18:17
I'm just gonna use every every every butthole

Unknown Speaker 1:18:21
I've ever licked. Yes. That's been that's that's something we do when you're in a relationship. Alright, that was a boyfriend. Okay. Okay, now I'm telling you why. From a girl's point of view, ladies are way more hygienic guys. If we took a poll How many guys clean up their backstairs How many guys do you think clean up backstairs Oh,

Unknown Speaker 1:18:42
shit. I can't speak for every guy. I know. I clean my wash my so yeah. Oh no. You're hoping

Unknown Speaker 1:18:47
some girls stick her tongue back there now you're like oh, just in case. It feels good. All right, we're moving on.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:58
No, we not we got

Unknown Speaker 1:19:01
the longest lightning six round of course. Okay, look like I'm playing lightning.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:10
Now that will will I will I will I stroke one stroke. Yeah, I put the thumb in there.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:17
Okay, okay. Okay, okay. All right. You're still young. You gotta find a lady you care and love about and I feel like you'll do it.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:27
Yeah, you know me. I told you. We got we got we got to figure it out.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:30
All right. All right, moving on. Have you ever been to a sex club? Or a swingers party?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:36
The fuck is a sex club?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:38
It's literally a club where you go and people are just in all these different rooms and they're having sex you can watch there's you know usually like a bar and polls is that more of like a California New York thing. You never heard of sex clubs?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:52
No, like not like also like movies and shit. Now that you mentioned it but fuck nine ever been?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:56
Yeah. Okay. All right. Well,

Unknown Speaker 1:19:59
I'll be back again. Have you checked out but y'all see what it's like? Check it out, see what it's like. But for sure

Unknown Speaker 1:20:03
there's a famous one in Vegas called, like the green door or something like that. And I've never been there.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:10
Yes, Winger, say to get those we have to have a partner to be a swinger. Yeah. Especially

Unknown Speaker 1:20:14
with those kinds of

Unknown Speaker 1:20:17
somebody and it's like any type, like, like, if I'm looking even if I'm considering trying to even look at you and that type of way. I'm saying, we're not. We're not, we're not doing this.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:27
Yeah, I can tell, you know, like, there's some, and you know, like, I hate putting you in that box, like a traditional mindset, but there are people who have an open relationship, they go to sex clubs, and, you know, they're not as a territorial with their partner, they're more open, but you know, that's not for everybody.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:45
offer very offer very traditional. Just higher up, see, like, here's the thing. Me, like, like, my bills, the bills are gonna be paid. Regardless. If you need them, all you got to do was ask me, and I got you if you let me know what's up, and we, and I got you.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:12
Does it really make you mad if a female wants to like provide you said, what does it really? Like? Like, like, does it make you uncomfortable? If the woman's like, hey, like, Hey, I got half the rent, or I want to do I want to help out?

Unknown Speaker 1:21:25
Oh, no, I have no problem with that at all. But you know what, but here's the thing, though. My problem lies and what what comes with that?

Unknown Speaker 1:21:35
Probably for you, well, less stress about money, you know, knowing that your lady's gonna.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:42
I don't want a lot of not just about money. So so like so like, what? No, they don't they don't do nothing. For me. Her money is for her. Only thing that does is make her be like, Oh, I'm more independent. I don't have to do this. You know, I'm saying I don't have to do this. And I don't have to take this off. I mean, I don't have to do this. I don't have to do that. You know,

Unknown Speaker 1:22:03
I wish a woman who doesn't hold that as

Unknown Speaker 1:22:07
they'll talk. That's real talk. When men when men get money when men get get the more money men get they look to take care of their wife take care of their family. And the more money women get this Oh, I don't even know man. I don't even think I'm independent.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:21
No. Tomorrow you got to listen to me. Listen, listen. Oh

Unknown Speaker 1:22:24
my man. Oh, hello, can we get a solid tech from the sound guy all right.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:29
So now it's all doesn't want to weigh in here as well. Doesn't want to weigh in here. But I want to weigh in here. He's like you guys are in the middle of the lightning second round. Let's but I will tell you this Jamal, I will I do think that you're right. I do think that there are certain

Unknown Speaker 1:22:42
you know why he don't want to weigh in. Because society and everything tells him that but you don't seem to be you know, you don't say things that women don't want to hear? No,

Unknown Speaker 1:22:50
no, here. I think that you're right. I think you're right. But here's the thing, what is so wrong, and I probably opening up a bag of fucking can of worms that don't want to but what's so wrong about a woman knowing her worth and not needing not feeling like she's obligated to do certain things that she probably do anyway, because if you have a partner that you love, and she loves you back regardless of the amount of money that she makes, she'll still want to do all the same things that she was doing before to make you feel loved and to have a happy relationship. But like you might have picked partners maybe in the past or thought that because they made money that they didn't have to make you feel as good or do those other things, but you don't stop doing the good things just because you make money.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:33
Most do a lot of them do. Long cook right? Yeah, but

Unknown Speaker 1:23:38
how that even if I was broke ass I would still be I'm vegan Jamal. I'm not moving here fry and my man a steak you know?

Unknown Speaker 1:23:46
Alright, let's say if you were broke ass now your man's taking care of you. You mean to tell me you're still not going to cook? What was like, come on. I would

Unknown Speaker 1:23:53
clean I can't cook I don't know how to cook. I'm going to clean I'm going to be sweet to him. I'm going to do all the other things I'm going to help him stay organized. I'm going to do the laundry you know?

Unknown Speaker 1:24:03
All right, but he's but he not so. So what happens if another female is like alright, I don't know how to cook. I got it. And she makes food that he likes. Is he allowed to go get that food from that girl?

Unknown Speaker 1:24:11
Can she cook for me too? Does she know how to cook vegan stuff?

Unknown Speaker 1:24:16
Now she's probably not gonna cook for you probably not because that's not how she works

Unknown Speaker 1:24:19
but if she just cooking for him sweet that's one less thing I got to do further in there and then it goes here I am one of those modern women goddamn with her fucking modern way of thinking oh

Unknown Speaker 1:24:34
no problem in a woman paying bills and hell and and other than that my problem does not lie in that my life my problem lies in what the entitlement and things that comes with that.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:44
But I mean, unfortunately, that's unfair.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:47
That lead you you're not gonna let him in. kind of tell you what to do. If you feel like oh, I want to do this. You're not gonna let him tell you what to do. If you truly truly want to do something real shoot, you will make one Whatever the excuses we got this all right, yeah, I shouldn't be allowed to do all of this. He tells you don't do this. You're going to do it.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:08
I think broke or rich. I'm not going to let a man tell me what to do if I if I don't want to do it. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:25:14
exactly. So and now if I want to feel, and I'm the quarterback in his regardless of anything broke, regardless of anything, if I'm not going to do what my coach tells me to do, how many games are we going to win?

Unknown Speaker 1:25:26
But that winning the structure is messed up the steer? Not the coach, you're not the coach, you're both teammates. Your coach, teammate, you're not the coach of

Unknown Speaker 1:25:36
the captain of the team. The

Unknown Speaker 1:25:38
captain, you ain't Captain, you a captain? What makes you captain because what makes you captain

Unknown Speaker 1:25:46
he was bringing it back to the fact was that you just said if you were broke ass, alright, let's put it in that perspective. Perspective. If you were broke, you had nothing to offer with simplicity. So why would I then take care of you people to pick you be monogamous with you. If you don't even offer the most basic things a woman can offer a man. Everything you offer, I can get someone else and do anything else. And I don't have to listen to somebody else's mouth about it.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:10
I sounds like you enjoy leading the team, regardless of what the woman brings to the table

Unknown Speaker 1:26:17
dynamic dynamic of men versus women. You just said if we stripped down to our primal and builds a bit of nothing, women are going to stick closer to the men you're going to follow his lead because that is what is natural. And that is the primal theme. You're gonna get that and now wonder why we just Alright, fuck it. I'm not just gonna deal with none of it fucking relationship. No, no, no. Can

Unknown Speaker 1:26:37
I Can I ask you one question? When you're when you're saying the primal need, even if I was broke, and even if I was being all independent woman, you're right, I will still go to that man for protection, because that's insight that's innate. But that doesn't mean

Unknown Speaker 1:26:53
to be respected and to lead his one. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:26:57
but you can't follow a leader. Oh, no, there is no

Unknown Speaker 1:27:01
but you just said what your line was what you mean, what you're going to come to us for and what we you can't there's no shame in those rules. When you come to us, you come if you're going to come to me for protection, and providing all of that is a well, I want a woman that's going to respect that in terms of follow my lead, and respect me and respect my lead. You just said a man is not going to ever tell me what to do. So what do I have used with that for it's not enough money for me to cover all my bills, she don't have to work, all you got to do is stay home and take a look clean any of that shit or even bill if you wanted to build a bag however you want to do do that shit. At home, you have options, you have the option to literally pick and choose what the fuck you want to do. I offer that I asked you to pick and choose what type of like what do you want to do.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:45
When I say I won't? Valuable, right? Yes, you're valuable. And when I say when I say when I say that I won't listen to a man. That's it. I'm saying like I won't listen to someone blindly. Unless I want to do that. Okay. And I just think that your opinion of a provider.

Unknown Speaker 1:28:05
All right, can we go back? All right, can we go back to the primal part? Are we back?

Unknown Speaker 1:28:10
Can we go back to our lightning sex round? Can we go the lightning?

Unknown Speaker 1:28:13
There's no deck there's no there's no there's darkness. There's nothing there's no weapon? There's nothing the only thing you owe the biggest thing you best thing you have to protect you is this man. All right. And now he's telling you joke. Run, go climb up this tree. Climb up this tree. Don't ask so but right now,

Unknown Speaker 1:28:27
I would still listen. I would still listen because it's

Unknown Speaker 1:28:29
alright, so why the fuck would you play by that same logic whenever he's telling you to do something else but

Unknown Speaker 1:28:34
what else is it he's telling me to do? It depends, right? Know. If he's telling you. It's okay. If he's telling you to just shut the fuck up. Go do the laundry. If he's talking disrespectful to you just because he makes money I'm gonna tell that motherfucker go suck a dick. I don't give a fuck I'll find another provider because there's a provider out there who will be designed to me

Unknown Speaker 1:28:54
you'll find that you'll find another provider. And here's the thing and here's the thing somebody somebody like that. That is that does all that providing them Plus, they have certain there's certain certain things you're gonna have to you don't have to compromise what you're gonna have to follow. And he's not willing to do that. You don't have to lower the standard for relationships. Some dudes are beta males or however you want to describe and they don't mind All right, I'm gonna let this woman leave me and things like that. But like bro, if I let's say women women want more rights, more power, power, power, power power in this alright, let's say we turn we gave all that over. And we turn this country over to women and women have the most powerful positions in this country. I don't think that's how long do you think this country's gonna last? Do you think we will grow and thrive with women lead in as the overhaul because here's why. Because here's the thing, because once men stopped being feminine, all of that and started we are now more in touch with and soft and all of that shit. The country that's not like that, that know their role and they are the victim. or to come into control that kind of it's happening again again over time.

Unknown Speaker 1:30:03
Did you really just make my sex podcast political? Did you really just make this sex podcast political? We're talking about stalking Jamal, get back to the bucket. Get back to buttfucking. God dammit, we're talking

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about water. We talking about the water when

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talking about we're talking about do you like? Do we like body hair on a woman? Are you a lingerie lover? We're keeping it light hearted here. Come on.

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Let's keep like they don't ask you about relationships and talking like, Oh, do you want to know try to paint me no picture on the relationship. And if you're not gonna want to talk about the whole thing, that's all I'm gonna say. Oh, it can be this, this and this? No, that's what you were doing all it can be this. Don't you want to have this person that's this, this, this and this. If you don't want to talk about the backside of that they don't, then don't y'all always say keep it 100 Don't Don't sell no drink, don't sell no drink,

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you kind of be in heated. You're heated about it. And you're kind of being like the woman you're being about the woman in this relationship. You need to you're being all emotional. Like, can we have a conversation and just with statistics and facts and like, hey, and this is you know, like, I think that your your opinion and of like your structure of a relationship. That's what you want. That's what you need. I'm all for it. That's what this podcast is about. But I'm here to say that everybody's different. And what

Unknown Speaker 1:31:23
I've been because you don't know me, you you get the you get the fact that like me getting like, I mean, that's just how I talk when I'm talking about sports, no matter how it is this this is how I talk. I'm not upset. I don't I don't I don't hate you or feel any different way about you. For your opinion, one way or the other. I don't just I am who I am. This is this my opinion. This is just how I see them. This is just my ex. All that.

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I love it. I love it. I'm glad I'm glad to get to know you. The fact

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that you're objective with it or against it, or whether you can be like fucking European. I just I don't

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know, I'm here. I'm here to be Switzerland. You know what I mean?

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This respect, and if you haven't done anything to me, I have I don't feel it. I'm just it's just hot talk. I just took it.

Unknown Speaker 1:32:03
Well, I like it. I like it. You know, and we're getting to know you. And that's the part of this podcast. People don't know. You know, a lot of people out there they just see you.

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And I'm ready to go.

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Well, hey, let's keep let's give it back to the lightning section. Because we want to end this on a good note. We got two more sections after lightning sex round, a fun game and some fan questions and these fan questions. You got some great fucking fans, Jamal. So let's let's get going. Okay, body hair on a girl. Yes or no? Depends on where? Okay, all right. Ever. Wait, you want to elaborate? Elaborate. All this stuff. Do you want to elaborate? Well, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:32:45
Like Like, like, like, mustache? No. Extra Long Arm here. I'm not really filling that. Okay. But I mean, if you got like a little little bush a little trail. I mean, I was tripping about that. That's okay. Okay.

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Everybody's ever been caught having sex or masturbating?

Unknown Speaker 1:33:10
Yeah, yeah. Like by who? By by pin by somebody else?

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I don't know many times. I don't know. Usually it's like a one time thing, but it's

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apparent that I was like my brother in law.

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You have a large family. Okay. All right. That's the end of the lightning sex round. Longest lightning strikes round sixth round in the last two years for sure. Most heated lightning sex round, but I liked it. Thank you so much.

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I like to dig into it. I don't like flat. We got to talk. We got to talk. We got an open up dialogue.

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I feel like if you and I get on another podcast, we're just we're always gonna get into it. So you're passionate about it.

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Like I just feel like we we expressively and passionately express our our point of views and shit. Like we

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got it. I know. For sure. I think that though, like you and I are.

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I just really was just conversation. I enjoyed it.

Unknown Speaker 1:34:01
Yeah, no, I love it. I love it. Let's get to these fan questions. And as you're answering the fan questions, I'll do it. So here we go. All right. Actually, we'll have to have this in the UFC fight pass section because everything moving forward will be on the UFC fight pass platform for those still listening. How could they follow you? Yeah, welcome to the fucking big show Jamal all this shit all your heated argument is gonna be on UFC fight pass. Okay, so for those listening who are not going to follow us to the UFC fight pass platform where can they follow you on social media and what else would you like to promote if anything besides your fight coming up?

Unknown Speaker 1:34:43
Look me up on sweet underscore dreams underscore J Hill as my Instagram. Jamal JHLH on Twitter and you know tick tock. You know, Okay, God, I got

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you guys know where to find him. He's headlining the big show. In three weeks August 6 versus Thiago Santos

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felt very guilty that well you want me to do the three names you actually asked me to do?

Unknown Speaker 1:35:12
Yeah, I do actually do it Come on. Okay, so you got a blonde country singer. That's Faith Hill. Okay, she's hot. And if you like blonde girls and then you got Lauren Hill, you know who she is? And then you got Angela Hill. Fine You know what? Take out Angela Hill to make it less awkward. Jonah Hill

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a guy well, guy

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make it easy. What? How you

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gonna do that? Not even put Lauryn Hill because she dressed like a god. From the from the memory of what I saw.

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Just kill him. Just kill him. Then you can kill him.

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Oh my god. She really? I only wanna play Let's go.

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I don't want to play okay Okay guys, that's it for episode 105 with Jamal Sweet Dreams Hill. I'm super excited to watch him fight. I'm putting my money on him versus Thiago. I know that sounds crazy, but I just got a good feeling about him. He brings the energy and you know I think this man is a is a gamer. We could be talking to a future champion today. So we'll see what happens. UFC fight pass is the world's premier combat sports streaming service with over 200 live events. The largest fight library in existence original shows and more. Sign up for one year right now and get half off for a limited time. UFC fight pass.com backslash sign up. All right, next week we are talking to a UFC lightweight. His name is Terrence T Rex McKinney. I love that name because it's T and then w reck. S And I was like T Rex T Rex and I didn't even realize until I said it out loud. I was like Oh, I get it. It's a play on words. Right? T Rex maybe. Rex holes, Rex holes. Wow, those poor name is Rex holes. That's a really good one. But that's nasty. I wonder if this Terrence guy has a short reach, you know, T Rex. I wonder? Yeah, well, we'll have to ask him. All right, guys. And I did do a little bit of research on him. This guy died. Came back to life. I think it was like meth heroin. Something crazy vacillates like he like there's video of him dying, getting attacked by police tape being tased. And then basically fucking coming back from the dead making a UFC debut and just, it's like, it's beautiful, you know? So I'm really excited for next week's guest if you can't tell, and he's also fighting on that August 6 card with Jamal and Thiago who are headlining. So we'll just be all up to speed on that card. Alright guys, don't forget, check out our website sex violence with rebel girl.com We're always adding new designs every few months, and we got some new ones coming out. So buy some merch for us to help keep the lights on. And if you want to email us or check out my exclusive content site that's Ashley rebel girl.com or sex and violence podcast@gmail.com I love you guys. I really do. I really feel like I'm getting into the swing of things. I feel like I'm getting confidence when I talk to people. I don't get to follow my little format. Sometimes we get off track which I don't know maybe that's good for you guys. Maybe you guys or maybe you guys like the structured format you like knowing what you're gonna get every week. I'm still playing it out. So I love you guys please keep tuning in and sending in those fan questions if you didn't know I keep saying it but they're gonna be always on UFC fight pass.com get a subscription it's such a great platform it's worth it. Please. Yeah, that's about it guys special thank you to audio engineer DJs Oh likes like always at DJ Zol you can find him on Instagram and tomorrow could studio at tomorrow kids official. You can always find me at Ashley MMA. And I hope you guys enjoyed the show. We'll have a new guest next week and more details.

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Ep.105 Jamahal "Sweet Dreams" Hill

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