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The living room? We're making it happen because we got some good news. We are moving studios and what will the new studio be called Soul Pentacles down Pinnacle sound OCD. So I know we sound just as good because Zol is my audio engineer. But yeah, I'll keep you guys updated with the latest. It's gonna be cool new digs, and I'm really excited about that. two story building is our kitchen to you said, Ooh, fancy. So last week since I didn't see or talk to you guys, I didn't get to talk about Turkey holocaust. I hope you guys had an amazing Thanksgiving. I personally had a really really good one spent it with my partner and his family in Long Beach. And then the next get next day immediately flew at like the buck crack of dawn to my small town Ukiah, California, and I got to visit my grandpa. So that was huge for me. He is my favorite person on this planet. And it was a really good trip back home. It was probably the best one I've had in many, many years. So I just I came back feeling really energized and full of life. And I'm from a small town if you guys don't know where Ukiah is, it's in Northern California. And coming back from a small town to Orange County and LA. As you know, as someone who grew up there, I just am so appreciative and I forget to stop and give myself credit about how far I've come. And on this trip a lot of former like high school friends, I ran into them and stuff and they all had nothing to say but like the sweetest things about how basically what I've been doing is inspiring them. And that made me feel really, really good. And I kind of needed that because sometimes, like I said, I forget to give myself some credit sometimes so had a great trip up there and just unplugged. I didn't post anything for like, I think three days, maybe even four days, you know, I'd share something if somebody tagged me but just put my phone down. I feel like we really forget to do that. You know, and over the holidays, I felt like okay, this is the time I'm going to unplug. You know work can fucking can wait, you know, obviously I still did some training and therapy and all that kind of stuff. But I'm going to try and do it again over Christmas. Just put the fucking phone down. Don't be on social media, you know, be present be in the moment. And it was a great trip. And I just hope you guys had a great holiday as well. Let's see. I also didn't get to tell you about what I did. The following week was up next fighting number three, it was the fourth show ever. And the third professional show if you guys are not familiar with AppNexus fighting. It is amazing new MMA promotion here in SoCal. And we actually crowned our second champion ever. Our first champion was our featherweight champion, Albert, the Belizian warrior mirallas, my teammate, and our first ever bantamweight champion, ironically was a guy went to college with that Menlo College. He is Cody Gibson of the Renegades. So congrats to Cody. Congrats to all the fighters. It was a really fun night of fights. And I don't just say that because I work with them but I think the match Making is really good. I think that the promotion does a great job of like the bells and whistles. Every time I go. There's always some cool performance. You know, they've had the haka. They've had a miniature six year old ring. Announcer you know, they had a thriller, performance over Halloween. So stuff like that. There's always like, pomp and circumstances with their show. And it's and it's really fun, kind of like, a little bit like, pride, I guess. Maybe it's all you know, it was probably the ones where they had really fun walkouts, and all that. Yeah, something like that. You know, now UFC, I feel like there. Yeah, all the pride back in the days, I feel like they're trying to bring some of that. Yeah, just like the kind of media and all that I'm forgetting the word for it. 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Unknown Speaker 10:59
Okay, we are here with Mr. Dean Thomas. Should I call you, Dean Yarrow? That's a cool nickname.

Unknown Speaker 11:06
You can call me Dean Dean. You know? Yeah, I'm listen, I'm so excited to be on this podcast. Like ever since I saw like the name of it sex and violence with Rehberger. And I was like, always kind of creep on it. And it always kind of intrigued me and it almost scared me a bit. So like to be here. live and in person is crazy. You know, I'm saying because I don't eat ass. So I wanted to start off with that. But okay, go ahead, you go ahead and conduct this thing.

Unknown Speaker 11:35
Well, that is a good start Dean. I mean, no eating as I usually kind of build up to that. But if you want to jump right in, we could do that, too.

Unknown Speaker 11:42
Now we can. Let's build up to it. Let's build it. You know, I just but I kind of wanted to put that out there. Okay, well, we'll get through this acid is though it does depend on who's acid is because there are some acids out there. I would probably eat. Okay. Anyway, but we'll build into that.

Unknown Speaker 11:56
Okay. All right. Well, I honestly, I feel like you're an easy to get along with kind of person, just from your energy on social media, the TV show that you did. And but I don't know much about you. I actually want to get to know, you know, where you came from. And all that before we get into the, the ass eaten and all that. So I know that you were I'm looking at my notes here, basically, born in Delaware moved to Florida when you were 12. And the things I really liked to ask about background because this is sex and violence. It's kind of like not like, how was your upbringing, but in regards to dating love sex romance? You know, how was sex talked about in your household when you were coming up?

Unknown Speaker 12:40
I mean, it was not talked about at all. So I was, so I have two older brothers and a younger sister. Okay. My parents split when I was 12. And my mother moved us and the kids down to Florida, my father stayed up in the Philadelphia area. So I mean, we were kind of a very dysfunctional, disjointed family. But, but I didn't know you didn't know any better. Because like, that's the only family you have, like, you don't realize it's like now that I'm older looking back and going, man, we were really kind of fucked up. Like we didn't, you know, and our parents really didn't talk to us all that much about, you know, sex or anything like that. They didn't really talk to us that much about anything. I mean, they were kind of off on their own and working. So everything I kind of got about dating and growing up. I just kind of got like watching TV and you know, watching it like, other people do it. And yeah, so I didn't really have a lot of experience. I was really bad. Coming up with the opposite sex

Unknown Speaker 13:41
really bad. All right, really bad. And what do you mean by really bad?

Unknown Speaker 13:45
Just, I mean, one is that I was very shy. And I think that had a lot to do with my upbringing in my parents, because in my house, my mother was quiet. And then my father, he wasn't as quiet but like, he was always doing his own thing. Like he worked at night, and he was always doing his own thing. So I didn't really know how to communicate with women. And it always scared me It scared. I mean, it scared me to death to talk to girls. I was afraid of them. Didn't

Unknown Speaker 14:12
you say you have some older brothers? Yeah. Did they give you any guidance at all? Did you kind of learn from looking at following their lead at all?

Unknown Speaker 14:21
No, actually, it was worse because the first girl I remember the first girl that I liked, and I was probably like in second grade. And I think they found out about it, because I think I might have wrote like a poem or something. And I remember I remember him finding out about it, and then I'm just making fun of me. So at that point, from that point on, like, I'd never told him about any other girls and I just never talked about girls with that because I remember that making fun of me. Until this day. I think that's still kind of traumatizes me like the fact that like, they made fun of me when I was a kid for liking a girl and then I'm now I'm just kind of like, nope, well, so yeah, it was bad.

Unknown Speaker 14:56
Okay, so who was did you have? You said your dad was working on lot would you consider yourself kind of like a latchkey kid? No. What do you mean by that? A latchkey kid, that term comes from, like the latch key on the door pet, not saying your parents were doing anything, maybe they were at work, but you kind of come and go as you want. So you kind of raise yourself a little bit.

Unknown Speaker 15:17
Oh, absolutely. 1,000% Yeah, me and my brothers and my sister, we all raised ourselves 1,000%. And that's not enough against my parents. Because as a parent, now, I realize that you're not giving instruction. So you're just basically going off of what you learned. And then I, you know, and I've been to therapy about this as well, too. So like my parents just learned from their parents, which just learned from that. So like, I'm not knocking them, but I'm just saying now that I know better. I was 100 I remember being like, 10 years old, being able to come in and out of the house. So pleased. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna go on. It's I want to just like, I mean, it was obviously a different time back then. But I could come and go as I when I came home, when I felt like it. I did what I wanted and ate. It's been, you know, six years old, making my own food. For sure. My son is 17. Now I still make him food.

Unknown Speaker 16:10
Yeah, it's, I think that you looked at the pattern, and you were ready to break the cycle per se, right? You're like, oh, yeah, for sure. Just because it was always like this, it doesn't have to always be like this.

Unknown Speaker 16:23
Yeah. And that's actually something that my therapist talked about. Listen, you got to break the pattern. Because you know, if you don't break the patterns, and I see myself sometimes actually even continuing that cycle with him, and I have to check myself and put myself back into, put it back into perspective and go, Hey, listen, that's not how it's supposed to be. We got to do things the right way.

Unknown Speaker 16:44
Of course, it's in us, we, you know, it's like you see that every day for X amount of years. And you can fight it as much as you want and go to therapy, but we're gonna mess up, but that's okay. Right. It's all about just, you know, coming back and changing things.

Unknown Speaker 16:58
I think it is. But like one thing that I haven't been able to break in terms of like that six, you know, education with my own son is people always go did you talk to your son about, you know, condoms and sex? Yeah. And I haven't? No, I haven't. I'm like, No, I haven't. I know. I'm afraid to like,

Unknown Speaker 17:17
be a Granddaddy.

Unknown Speaker 17:20
I know my parents never did it with me. So like, I'm afraid to it. Like, I'm like, I don't know how to have that conversation with him. Because I could imagine me having that conversation with him. And him just like, laughing it off. And being you know, and just not really handling it. Well, like probably how I would have handled it if my parents came to me with that talk, for sure. So I have to figure out a clever way to try to

Unknown Speaker 17:39
I was just like, No, throw a box of condoms out and be like, wrap it up.

Unknown Speaker 17:45
Yeah, like that's, that's really like the easy way to do and I almost feel like that's how I should do it. Just be like, toss them a couple and be like, Yo,

Unknown Speaker 17:52
it doesn't have to be such a serious conversation. It can be, you know, whimsical, if you want like, Hey, here's a box of condoms. You know, I you know, you already know about sex and the birds and the bees, but be safe. You know, don't ruin your life at an early age or whatever. However you want to say it right?

Unknown Speaker 18:08
Yeah, I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out the easiest way to do it. I haven't done it. But I know he's already there yet, but maybe I should probably present it to him to let him know that, that I also care about this

Unknown Speaker 18:18
as well. So do you know if he's having sex yet?

Unknown Speaker 18:22
I don't know. But I can only but but I do. I can only imagine that he is because, you know, he's he's got a lot of female friends. He's always out and about. He's doing his thing. And like, if he's anything like I was that age, trying to experiment. Yeah, no, for sure. Man. Experimentation is key. So

Unknown Speaker 18:42
from shy Dean, you know, in second grade, till experimental Dean, how did that change? How do you kind of come into your own as a young boy, since you didn't really have a strong male role model?

Unknown Speaker 18:55
Well, I didn't I didn't really come into mind. Really? I mean, no, no, absolutely not. And I mean, even to this day, I think I'm still really terrible at it. shy when it comes to talking

Unknown Speaker 19:05
to the ladies. Really?

Unknown Speaker 19:06
I am pretty much yeah, I am. I'm actually really shy. I'm actually a very shy person. But I'm not. I'm not afraid of people. Yeah. So like, that's the thing is, and I think that comes from fight. And actually, when I learned how to fight, there's something very empowering. So like, this is sex and violence is key. Actually, there's something very empowering about knowing that you can kick people's ass, that you're not afraid of them anymore. And I think that as I was growing up, I was a small kid. I was in like, seventh grade, I was like 70 pounds, and being afraid and small and shy again, around the women. But then after I got out of high school, and I learned how to fight it was like, What the hell was I afraid of these dudes for? I beat the shit out of them. Yeah, like I wasn't, I wasn't afraid anymore. So then that gave me a little bit more confidence to come outside of my shell, for sure. Yeah, and that helped a lot. But, I mean, it was a kind of a gradual process. So, I mean, let's go back to like high school. It was always like one girl every year, they like had my attention pretty much. So like, I remember ninth grade, it was one girl and in 10th grade, it was another girl. And it was always like one girl that kind of had my attention to it maybe gave me some attention. I latched on to and like and I was in when I latched on it was like bad like, I'm kind of, I was kind of clingy, because like, I was so afraid of women that when one would show me some attention that maybe I would get a little clingy, of course,

Unknown Speaker 20:30
and I'm no psychologist, I'm no therapist, I'm just a girl who likes to talk about this stuff. But when you come from a background where you don't get a lot of attention, and then you get attention, it can be addictive, you know, for sure, for sure. And so, you know, I can understand how when a girl showed you a tension, you know, maybe sounds like you're a little bit of a hopeless romantic.

Unknown Speaker 20:53
Oh, big time. Okay,

Unknown Speaker 20:54
I love it. Okay, very much. So now I'm gonna bring up a situation. And I already cleared it with you. Because some things should be in the past. And some things we talk about. Because if it didn't happen, we wouldn't be who we are. Right? And I have a story just like this. So when I was doing my research on you, I came across a story that said, you basically got an assault charge when you were 17 years old. Who thank goodness, right, not 18?

Unknown Speaker 21:19
Well, no, there's more to the story. Okay, well,

Unknown Speaker 21:23
let me you tell this story, actually.

Unknown Speaker 21:26
So, so like I said, I had like one girl every year that was up until 11th grade. And then that was kind of when I found like a girl who took me through the rest of my high school years. So it was 11th grade and 12th grade, I had a girlfriend. And throughout our whole relationship, we had kept a secret from her parents, because, you know, she was a, she was a Colombian girl, and she didn't think that her parents would approve of her dating a black kid. Okay, so we kept it a secret from her parents. So but so we had, I mean, we, you know, high school stuff. So anyway, but again, I was still clinging or whatever, whatever. Yeah. So, the end of my senior year, we decided to break up. Because, you know, we thought we would go our own separate ways. And she, you know, she's gonna go off to college, and I was probably going to, you know, go off to college somewhere else. And so she started dating another guy. And for whatever reason, it just didn't sit well with me. Okay. I didn't like it. Yeah, so yeah, exactly. Your

Unknown Speaker 22:29
lover you love hard. Already love

Unknown Speaker 22:31
hard. Love hard. So she started dating another guy. Okay. So I remember going over her house one day and her keep them on her parents know nothing about me. Oh, man. Yeah, okay. And I go, I go over her house one day, and he's there because I knew he was there. And I remember I saw his truck out front. I stole my mother's car. drove over there. I saw his truck out front, a park down the street. And I came back and I went up to the window. Enough started knocking on her window. And the dude opened the blinds up. And I was like, Yo, come outside. And then he shut the blinds on the zip. And I got I lost it. I really did. I lost it. I ran back to the car. And I grabbed a wrench. Oh shit. Yeah. And then I came back and he was trying to leave he Tiesto he thought I left. So he was gonna try to hurry up and get out of there before I was before. You know, he thought I left and I caught him. And they backed his truck up. And he's he backed his truck up. I ran up to the truck, banged on the window and he stopped. I said get out the car. And he rolled the window down. And then I punched him in the face. Bang. And then I opened the door up and then I grabbed them to grab them to pull him out of the car started bashing him in the head with the wrench. The wrench fell off. Oh, yes, screaming and everything else ensued. And then her the girl's father came outside father mother came outside broke it up. And they were like totally clueless because they didn't even really know that I exist. Yeah. They were like what was going on? So then he ends up going to the hospital. She has to spill the beans about everything that went on. And the cops came and arrested me the next day. They took me to the juvenile detention center. The good I was 17 at the time. Yeah, but this was in a this was in like September when I can't remember exactly when. But all I know is as I was in the juvenile detention center, I turned 18 So the rules applied that as soon as I got out they re arrested me as an adult for the charge.

Unknown Speaker 24:43
What? Yeah, that's what happened to me. Wow.

Unknown Speaker 24:47
Yeah. So then I got so then they re arrested me as an adult and then I had to go through the whole system again as an adult. And worse come to worse. So you know, at the end of the day, like I ended up doing Like battling this for about a year. And you know the kid end up getting stitches and pressing charges and all that. And I ended up getting 52 weekends in jail that I had to do I had to go to jail for I go into jail on Friday come out on Sunday, I'd be out on the street picking up trash in stripes, like, oh, yeah, strike. Yeah, it was. I mean, it really taught me a lot about life.

Unknown Speaker 25:22
Yeah, did that. I mean, so it's such a similar situation. I'll give you the short version of my story. 17 years old drinking like a fish from 13 with a bunch of punk rock kids, blacked out drunk, got into a fight stabbed a guy. Don't remember the event woke up the next day had to turn myself in. Went to juvenile hall. I got a super cool judge who was a female judge Mayfield shout out. I'll never forget this woman because she gave me an opportunity to kind of change my life around, but ended up spending Thanksgiving and Christmas vacations. While I was in college. I went to college I served the summer. She let me go to college. And then on my Thanksgiving and Christmas vacation, I had to serve the remainder of my time. So a little bit like you were it was

Unknown Speaker 26:06
it makes sense does it that doesn't make sense to like make people go back. Like if you're out you're out. If you're in you're in, it doesn't make sense to me to have people come in and out of jail that way. Like as a, like a punishment. For me

Unknown Speaker 26:17
it made sense. Because she was basically saying like, Hey, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to have you miss out on this opportunity to change your life and go to college. But you're not going to get away that easy. You still got to do some time come back. So it made sense to me. And I was so grateful still am but I was 17 didn't get charged as an adult. And you know, obviously I stopped drinking for about four years after that, but then picked it right back up again. And I was going to ask you in this kind of fit of rage were you intoxicated or just purely No. Passion? No.

Unknown Speaker 26:48
Just purely passion down. Okay, passion, but But I mean, it taught me a lot about like patience, right? So it taught me to have patience and think before you act and think about like the repercussions before you do anything. And since that time, like it really like anytime I feel like I'm going to be that passionate or have that type of vengeance. I'm able to stop myself. I have a lot of I have a tremendous amount of patients now. To where you know, you can't really get me to that point anymore. Because like I always think about them weekends on the hell no. Never going back to that.

Unknown Speaker 27:26
Oh yeah. I always think about the little things that I missed when I was in juvie, like tweezers, I got some bushy eyebrows. If I don't control these things, it's like poof, within a couple of

Unknown Speaker 27:38
days. You're gonna like Burton Ernie. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 27:40
I looked like Burton Ernie. You know, and then like showering with the shampoo and the conditioner that basically makes your hair fall out. You know, just the little things. I was like, I can't go back. I'm too delicate.

Unknown Speaker 27:51
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like, you know, I'm saying like using the bathroom in front of people. Like little things like that, where it's just like, and that's why I say, you know, I never want my freedom jerk like I do. I'm never going to have my freedom jerk. So like that's going to jail is never an option for me. It's never going to be an option.

Unknown Speaker 28:07
I love that and you segwayed into jujitsu after that. What was the catalyst? Did that event have anything to do with you getting into jujitsu?

Unknown Speaker 28:17
No, not necessarily. I mean, that event was going to happen regardless, but this was about the same the same time where I found you know, Jujitsu. It was because I had saw my first UFC. I was in like, a senior in high school and like, and I had been like, just so mesmerized by hoist Gracie and the Gracie family and what they were doing just like being small because I was small and being small, and being able to beat bigger people. So I was like, obsessed with it. So actually, the fact that because I had intentions of going to college, I really did. So I had intended to go to college, I had like applied to like Grambling and you know, Drexel, and all these other schools and I didn't Texas Southern, I got into these schools. But then when I got in trouble, I couldn't leave because I was battling this court case. So not leaving actually started my MMA career, okay, because I would have been going off to school, and I would have probably just never did MMA stuff. I would have been, you know, in college, I'd be a school teacher right now. So whatever the hell, but because I couldn't leave, I stayed home. And me and my buddy Paul Rodriguez, who runs that American Top Team in Orlando now, the black belt now and fought. It has amazing career. So cool. We trained it was 95 We started training in a yard getting videotapes. I go to jail. I go to jail in a week on the weekend. But during the week, me and him we trained just me and him. Okay, you're training. So like that's how it really started. So like because I because of this incident, I couldn't leave and go away to college. I stayed home and in 95 just started training off videotapes. It's

Unknown Speaker 29:57
so wild. I went to college and I had a chance Hands meeting with Eugene Jackson while I was bartending didn't know what the fuck MMA was. And then boom, that interaction changed my life.

Unknown Speaker 30:07
You saw you guys started with Eugene Jackson. Yep, my first. Oh, late Skinner's Jackson. Yeah. Pretty Harris Eugene Jackson.

Unknown Speaker 30:16
Yeah, Eugene just picked me out. Well, what happened was actually I was playing like, rugby, rugby on like a little club team just for shits and giggles. I just, obviously, I'm a rough and tough kind of girl. I didn't really know the game at all. I just like doing sports. And Eugene was the community like, community coach kinda, and he just saw my size and I was wearing a wrestling shirt. And he's like, Oh, wrestling? Is that your boyfriend shirt? Like, was my shirt, you know? And he was like, oh, okay, well, I just opened a MMA gym. If you want to come check it out. You know, meet me there at 7am. I was like, I don't have any money. I just graduated college. He's like, I didn't say I was going to charge you to show up at 7am. And this motherfucker took me under his wing. train me for free thought I had something special. And until I you know, 10 months later met a boy and went off to Southern California. We had a good run a real good run together. I love him.

Unknown Speaker 31:13
But but then finding them boys. I'm telling you. Yeah. Boys, or in my case, my little girls always get you in trouble.

Unknown Speaker 31:21
Yes, it does change the direction of your life for sure. So you got into fighting or jujitsu at 18 first pro fight in 1998. So a couple questions I wanted to ask you. At what point did you stop being shy? Because I mean, maybe you had or maybe you never stopped being shy? You said that but how did you start talking to girls? Like what gave you a little bit of confidence? For me? It was drinking. You know, I always had to have a couple of drinks before I was social. So like, you know, did did fighting in a big organization give you confidence? did things change? Like, at what point in your fight career? Did you kind of have a little bit more confidence talk to the ladies.

Unknown Speaker 32:03
Um, I mean, I'm not sure if it ever really was like a point. I mean it to me, I still like I feel like even today, it's a gradual, it's always been gradual. And I think that even today is something that I have to consciously decide to do and work on. Okay to work on being social to work on being outgoing. Because I'm still very much introverted.

Unknown Speaker 32:27
That blows my mind D like you have on social media, and even talking to you, you're really easy to talk to it's it's hard to imagine you as a shy guy.

Unknown Speaker 32:38
No, I mean, I really am. I'm really very introverted. Like, even this Thanksgiving. I was I spent it by myself. Yeah, I'm very, I'm not enlightened, not because like I had to, but just like, I like being by myself. And I'm very quiet and I'm very introverted. So it's something that I consciously make the decision to do to be more outgoing. And I work on these things. And but again, I think it was just, I, there was never really a pinpoint time where I was like, man, now I can go ahead and get all these girls, but I think just being a fighter, and just knowing that, believe it or not, like people ain't shit, like, like you. Shit, like they're not different than

Unknown Speaker 33:18
you. Everybody puts their pants one leg at a time.

Unknown Speaker 33:21
And I remember my father used to always tell me that now growing up in in Delaware, and then in Port St. Lucie, Florida, to very small towns, you start to idolize people from bigger from bigger areas like New York City. Oh my god. Yes. Angeles, oh my god. So you start to think that these people are different. And then when I started fighting, and then realizing that they're not different, you know, I think it was probably like the first time I went to Japan. And I remember a buddy of mine, Mike Cardoso from Miami. He's actually a ring. And he's actually worked for the state of Florida for the commission. And he used to fight back in the day. And he told me, man, they're just like us. They just live over there. Yeah. And then I realized that that people are just like me, they just live somewhere else. And then and then that just having that mentality helped me to understand it. Like they're not better than me. So what the hell am I afraid of? Why am I afraid to talk to people are be outgoing.

Unknown Speaker 34:14
You have a 17 year old, I'm horrible at math. I'm trying to like do the numbers here. Were you in any serious relationships? You know, at what point did you have your kid like, Where were you in your career? When you found out that you were about to be a father?

Unknown Speaker 34:29
Okay, so there, there's more to that story. So and people always ask me, whatever happened to the girl? Well, I ended up marrying her and I have my 17 year old son with her so like, that's, like that's, that's what it is. So like, you know. So that's the blessing. So like, so much has come from that incident. So while at the time it seemed like the worst thing in the world so much good has come from that I have a career down. Yeah. A 17 year old son who is you know, Just you know, a special special gift to me. So

Unknown Speaker 35:04
I know that this is not the best reason to have a child. But I do know that if you have a child, sometimes it can totally change your life for the better, you know. And so I just wanted to know where you were at when you found out that you're going to be a father, were you fighting in the UFC at that point?

Unknown Speaker 35:23
Yeah, I was I was already in the UFC at that point. And, and, you know, I was in a relationship with her. And, you know, we were, you know, I was, you know, moving on in life, I was like, established, I was like an established man at the time. Like, I was a fighter in the UFC, I had a house, I had a gym, and, you know, it was, you know, starting a family at the time. Yeah, that's really where I was at at the time.

Unknown Speaker 35:47
Do you think that it is beneficial to be in a committed relationship when you're, you know, like you were in the prime of your career? Or do you think that it's, you know, a very selfish sport, as we know, and it's preferably, you know, best to stay single? Do you have an opinion on that?

Unknown Speaker 36:04
You know, I, I truly believe that for most people, it's better to stay single and to focus on your career as a fighter. Certain people, I'd say, guys, like, you know, Dustin Poirier a, you know, they proved me wrong, because I think he's better having Joe Lee with him. But I think for most people, being in relationships, being in relationships, for most people that are in MMA is kind of not the right thing, because it kind of I think it ruins your relationship. Just there's so much involved with like, having to manage it and a good relationship, that you can't have a good career.

Unknown Speaker 36:43
It's hard, it's hard one or the other, tends to suffer, right? The relationship or the career. Now, I think, you know, in my statistical analysis from 124 episodes here, it seems like if you can find a partner who is either in the industry or industry adjacent, right, so they're not like all up in your grill on the map, maybe, you know, someone who completely understands what it takes, you know, timewise diet wise, you know, training wise, that seems to be, you know, optimal. And what's Dustin's wife's name? Joe Lee, Joe Lee, she probably understands the ins and outs of MMA, and she knows that there's a time for him to grind and then time for him to decompress with her. And not every man or woman who's a Partner can can understand that right.

Unknown Speaker 37:29
Well, I think in their situation, you know, she's been with him his entire career, like before he started fighting. So she was there the whole time. So I think that's why it works so well for them. Yeah. And so but for MMA people, it's hard because I think if you're an MMA fighter, you tend to date also somebody that's also a fighter like you and then that doesn't work neither, because like, then you get people they start getting jealous of other people's career they started taking off. So that doesn't always work either. So it's just I think it's just very difficult to be in this in this industry and have somebody you know, it can be difficult. Have you have you ever personally dated in the industry? Well, you know, you know, I've I've dabbled in dabbled, yeah. Industry, and you know, it never really turned out well. So

Unknown Speaker 38:19
did you ever date another fighter while you were actively competing?

Unknown Speaker 38:23
No, I didn't. Okay, I didn't when I was when I was actively competing. I was not I did not. I didn't didn't never date another fighter when I was actively competing, like,

Unknown Speaker 38:33
there wasn't as many female fighters in that. It wasn't

Unknown Speaker 38:35
there wasn't a time. There was you know, female fighting wasn't a thing. Yeah. I mean, it was it was like, it was like Tara LaRosa and

Unknown Speaker 38:43
Gina Carano. And Gina Carano.

Unknown Speaker 38:45

Unknown Speaker 38:46
and oh my god, Julie Kenzi.

Unknown Speaker 38:47
Yeah. Julie Kedzie and Roxanne modifier? Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 38:52
Okay. Well, I just want to know. So that's your opinion, you know, dating in the industry and whatnot. But it just seems like that's like, the easiest thing is to date another fighter but

Unknown Speaker 39:06
and I get it too, because like, that's who you're surrounded by. Right. So like you don't really off because most fighters live in this bubble. And I remember being like that too. Like, because as I was competing, I was still going to school. I take classes here and there just to kind of have something else going on. That wasn't fight related. And it was like such a different world like fighters think that the whole world revolves around fighting but there's this whole other world outside of fighting. Oh, did a lot of fighters don't understand. So fighters are totally just like, enclosed in this bubble. And that's all you know, is other fighters. Oh, yeah. You don't know other people. And I'll tell fighters all the time and get outside that bubble and see the real world as another world out there that you need to experience. It is

Unknown Speaker 39:47
so important because as someone who's you know, I don't want to like make it sound weird. Like I'm in let's say the twilight of my career. You know, like I'm not in the early stages. I'm not calling it quits, but I'm towards towards the end and I can be real honest and vulnerable with people on this show. And I'm like, damn, to a certain point, up until about two years ago, I felt like fighting was all I had to offer. Because I was in that tunnel vision in that little bubble. And then the pandemic, and this injury forced me to do other things. And I'm like, oh, okay, I'm not just, you know, a fighter or a meathead, I can do other things. And a lot of fighters, when they retire, they get depressed, and they feel hopeless, and they don't have purpose anymore. And so I'm always telling people like, hey, while you're an active fighter, while you have this amazing platform, start doing other things, dip your toe in the water here, there and figure out what you want to do so that there's a smooth transition afterwards.

Unknown Speaker 40:43
See your injury that and that was God's way whether you want to call it God, whoever did the higher big universe, the universe, the universe, whatever you believe that was the universe's way of telling you to get out and do some other things. Sometimes you get sometimes it, it sends that message to you. It tells you all along, but then when you don't listen, it makes sure that you hear and make sure that you want to hear and listen,

Unknown Speaker 41:06
you end up in juvenile hall and contemplating your life wishing you had tweezers and like Tammy,

Unknown Speaker 41:12
I'm telling you like the universe will always guide you in the right way that it won't lie to you. It'll tell you exactly what you need to hear one way or the other.

Unknown Speaker 41:19
I agree with you.

Unknown Speaker 41:20
It was an injury.

Unknown Speaker 41:21
I agree. And I'm grateful for it. To be honest, I want to get back in the fucking cage, but grateful for it as well. So you retired in 2014 became the head coach at it one of the head coaches at att in 2020. When you retired, did you feel like it was easier to be a good partner? Because you weren't so focused on your career?

Unknown Speaker 41:42
No, I felt like it was probably really well, I mean, I'm not I'm not different from what you just explained about that transition from retiring to other other haven't. And another life, fortunately for me is that at the end of my career, I was already doing other things. I had already started doing improv comedy, I'd started doing these other things, and acting and so on and so forth. Like I had already put myself in these other industries. So but it was still a hard transition, because like, there's just something about waking up every day, you know, training, going to the gym, and like you just come to your life. And like, that's just what you do. So like, I lost all that. So it was harder, I'd say finding a partner because I didn't know who I was. And when you can't, when you don't know who you are, how can you give that to somebody else, because I'm trying to find myself. Like, that's what made it hard for me to really give myself to somebody else. Because I didn't know who I was.

Unknown Speaker 42:42
I love that actually, about a year into my sobriety, I told my partner, I had a really emotional moment. And I was like, wow, like I just realized, like, I finally love myself now. And I know that now I can love someone else fully. And that's like super mushy, I know, but it was like, you know, kind of same kind of situation where it's like, if you don't know who you are, how could you be comfortable with another person? If you don't love yourself? Truly, you know, because a lot of people out there I love myself, I love myself, but then the actions that they do don't really reflect loving yourself, right?

Unknown Speaker 43:16
Well, because it's not necessarily that they love their selves, they love the idea of who they want to be. Yeah. And they don't really know, they know who they want to be better to. Probably not there yet. And they love that idea. So they think they love themselves. But for me, I you know, I'm, I'm 46 years old, and I'm still figuring this out. I'm trying to figure all this out. So like, you know, life doesn't come with a manual. It doesn't come with a time limit. I mean, so like you don't know what where you're at sometimes. So I'm everyday for me is a new day and empty, empty canvas that I'm working on.

Unknown Speaker 43:47
I love that outlook. I gotta give you props and credit. Holy fuck, now that I know. And you've told me that you're a little bit more of an introvert and shy you're doing stand you did stand up comedy, in acting like those are things you're literally putting yourself on this platform to be scrutinized and picked apart. And as a shy person. Fuck that is so hard. So just slow clap for you. D that's, that's amazing. That's hard.

Unknown Speaker 44:13
mean I'm not, you know, like, I'm not afraid. Like sometimes I don't want to do things, but I forced myself to make myself uncomfortable. And that was one thing I learned is it you know, I gotta make myself be uncomfortable. And not a lot of people know that. You know, they see me doing all these skits and see me doing all this crazy stuff on stage. But I've been on stage for over a decade doing improv, it's small, it's small theaters. And I've done street improv or me and my team would go out on the street and just mess up. I mean, I've done some embed to like not good enough, like really, really bad. Like, I remember my son. I took my son to one of my shows it was in Miami and I remember at the end of the show, like no one was laughing at the end of the show. We got in the car and he's like, he's like Dad, you guys were so because

Unknown Speaker 45:02
that is not a good part about having a kid, right? Why don't know how old he was at this age, but kids are brutally honest. You're like,

Unknown Speaker 45:09
oh, he was so honest. But for me, but for me, I felt like it was a good thing because he got to see me be bad. Yeah. And he got to see me fail. And I think that's important for kids to see their parents fail so that he doesn't think that he can't fail.

Unknown Speaker 45:24
It's important to see your your parents fail and then continue.

Unknown Speaker 45:28
Yeah, right. Yeah, that's exactly he saw me fail and not give up and not care. So now, he's not afraid to fail.

Unknown Speaker 45:35
That's amazing. Yeah, I love that. Well, okay, we're gonna get into it. I always ask my guests. What is your current dating status? And then also, how do you identify sexually meaning heterosexual, homosexual, asexual? Pansexual all this stuff?

Unknown Speaker 45:50
I am heterosexual. And my current dating status is very complicated.

Unknown Speaker 45:55
Oh, it's complicated. It's

Unknown Speaker 45:57
complicated. Yeah, you know, complicated for respect out of, you know, the other parties.

Unknown Speaker 46:04
All right. And you know, my show is all about comfortability. I think people are like, think I'm over here digging for dirt. I just want to get to know you. So we'll leave it at it's complicated. But I do want to know, you know, for the ladies listening who may be thinking, oh, I want to shy actor, comedian commentator in my life. Are you currently looking? Or you, you know, or it's complicated?

Unknown Speaker 46:29
You know what it is? I tell you what, like, I've felt like I've, you know, my entire life. I've always had like, a weird relationship with women. To like, like I said before, like, I was afraid of them. And, and then it was a time in my life where I was just like, doing bad things. I mean, when I say bad things, I just mean, like,

Unknown Speaker 46:53
number 21.

Unknown Speaker 46:56
I've never, I've never disrespectful to women. Like, to me, that's very important. But there was a time in my life where I felt like I couldn't be friends with women, you know what they say? Like, guys can't be friends with women. Because you're always in the back of your mind. You're thinking that one thing? Yeah. So for me. I'm just I'm very comfortable now. And like, for like, the first time in my life, and this has been for a while now that I can be friends with women and not have that idea of being forgotten. And if something happened, you know,

Unknown Speaker 47:33
give me the window. Give me that.

Unknown Speaker 47:36
Yeah. And I'm very comfortable in admitting that now. Because there was a time in my life where I was just like, I can't even be friends with girls. Because if I'm going to be friends with her, if something happened, then I'm jumping in taking my taking my chance. Yeah. And that's, and I'm now like, you know what? I'm just happy being being able to be friends with with girls. So that's where I'm at right now. Okay, like I'm not I'm not in a position where I'm looking. I'm just happy to be friends. And this is why I always said I get along with with lesbian women. I guess that's redundant, but but they're my favorite people in the world. And here's why. And you can ask Amanda Nunez and Nina Andrew off and Molly McCandless. They're like, my favorite people in the world. Because for whatever reason, I almost feel like I have the same emotional intelligence and like this, like very sensitive side, like a woman. But so like, I like hanging out with women. But at the same time, there's no like, sexual tension ever. Yeah. Right. So like, I get along with like lesbians, like, they're like my best, like, my best friends are like, yo, let's hang out. Yeah, cuz

Unknown Speaker 48:50
you can be your true authentic self. And let's just face it, whether you want to emitted or not, you know, males and females do this. When the opposite sex is around. Sometimes we act a little bit differently unintentionally, you know, it's just a guy, you just peacock up a little bit. And the girl you may be like, oh, you know, a little flirty. Exactly, but it's not there with a you know, Lesbian and Straight man or gay man and a straight woman.

Unknown Speaker 49:16
Yeah, so I always felt that way. But now, I'm really getting to the point where now I'm just like, You know what, I'm trying I'm not a creep. But you know, I'm saying but like, you know, so I'm very comfortable now with just having like girlfriends and being okay with that. I'm trying to grow

Unknown Speaker 49:32
up. So not a girlfriend, someone that you were potentially interested in? What does that partner look like if you could, you know, have some key physical characteristics and then also some personality traits. Are there certain things that you like in a partner?

Unknown Speaker 49:47
Now, you know what I'm I'm very open minded. In terms of that. I'm very open mind I don't think anything physical like there are certain things that I prefer physic. Like, honestly, physically, I would prefer someone with more meat on their bones. I know you're like all black guys do. I mean, I wasn't gonna say it, but I was gonna say, just for me like, I definitely prefer that. But still fit, in a sense, like, that's it. But in terms of like, race or complexion, nothing really stands out. Like, for me. Intelligence is what really grabs my attention. Someone that's more intelligent and thoughtful. Especially thoughtful, like being thoughtful. And having compassion is probably key for me. Yeah, someone has to be thoughtful and have compassion.

Unknown Speaker 50:43
That's definitely something that that's a characteristic. I'm sure that came later in life. Right? It was like probably younger years more like fat booty, you know?

Unknown Speaker 50:55
Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Face it. That was it. You know, that was the keys back then. But now it's different. It's more like, but it's still like being an introvert and being shy, like, still, it was always like that. I mean, they had to have the look, but I was always attracted to the mind first, I think

Unknown Speaker 51:13
so since you're an introvert, do you find yourself physically attracted, or I guess, mentally or emotionally attracted more to like an extrovert type of woman? Because I feel like sometimes you get those two people together, and you can help each other right? The other, like, the extrovert helps the other one come out of their shell a little bit at the introvert. You know, like, vice versa?

Unknown Speaker 51:33
I gotta tell you, like when he was telling me about that story, when you stab that person that really turned me off? No, no, no bullshit. Like, I that's probably that's probably my downfall is that I am totally attracted to dysfunction.

Unknown Speaker 51:53
What do you want to dysfunction?

Unknown Speaker 51:56
Yeah. Like, like for there's something about that, like somebody who's just like, kind of like a little batshit crazy to really kind of like,

Unknown Speaker 52:04
well, you know, maybe it's not even like, you know, the dysfunctional part. But for me, because I'm the same way. When I hear someone who's had a certain kind of background, I'm like, Ah, you just get it. You know, I don't have to explain what it was like growing up. I don't have I have to explain my deviant character, you know, tendencies to you. You just you get it and you don't look at me like I'm evil or some shit. You know? Maybe Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 52:30
I think for me what it is, is that, you know, okay, so I was always an introvert. And I was always afraid to do everything. That when I meet somebody who's not afraid of stuff, like, you know, what's kind of a turn off for me is a man who was afraid to afraid to try things. Yeah. Afraid to try like, and one of the rules in improv is, you agree, and you keep going. Yes. And that's how I live it. Yes. And so you've done it before. So like, that's how, that's my life. I live with that model. Yes. And, and when I'm with somebody and I'm in their life, they're like, no, no, I don't want it. No, no, no, like you're blocking the scene to

Unknown Speaker 53:14
yoga. We only have one life, you know, I want to look back and be like, Man, I probably should have slowed down a little bit. I don't want to look back and be like, ah, you know, I didn't do this. I didn't do that. I would rather have so many memories. And and my life. Yeah, Penny.

Unknown Speaker 53:32
Yeah, for sure. Like that. To me. To me. That's what really attracts me to another human being as someone who is not afraid to fail. Yeah, that is probably the number one thing for me. Like they can't be afraid to fail. They have to be willing to, you know, put their nuts out on a cutting board and just go for it. Well, you're

Unknown Speaker 53:49
46 Now if you could tell young Dean some dating advice. What would you tell him?

Unknown Speaker 53:56
You know, people they should just go for it. Don't be afraid. Yeah. Don't be afraid. Just go for it. If people just go for it, just go out there and, and fail get turned down. I remember a guy once told me he said his key to talking to women is this is that you should intentionally try to get turned down 10 times. Like every time you go out. If you want to go intentionally try to get turned out 10 times. Because no matter what it is that you say some girl is going to like it. You know someone's gonna find what you say cute. So like no matter what it is that you say? Someone's gonna like it

Unknown Speaker 54:33
for sure. Now,

Unknown Speaker 54:35
I've never tried it but but um

Unknown Speaker 54:38
Well, how do you normally meet girls? Are you going out to bars? Are you going out to events, you know, because you said you don't really date in the industry. So that's the big struggle right? It's hard to I hate this term, but like shit where you eat. If you're such a workaholic, like I tend to be nowadays and a lot of people if you want to be super successful, it's like you're grinding, grinding, grinding work. And then you go home. And it's like, when the fuck do you meet a significant other?

Unknown Speaker 55:06
I'm not really out there like that, you know, and I think that's, and I'm comfortable with that. Like, again, like, for the first time in my life, I'm completely comfortable with just existing and putting my best foot forward where it belongs and not feeling like I need to have a partner or be in a relationship. And, you know, be on Instagram, what my significant like, I don't need that. So like I don't, so I'm not even actively looking like, I'm not even going out looking and going, Yeah, me find somebody because I'm lonely. No, I'm not even looking because I have enough in my life. And enough friends. And again, like I get along with enough, like female friends to get like that. You know, I have enough friends to like to get what I want. Yeah, you don't say it in terms of like, communication and you know, just people to talk

Unknown Speaker 56:00
to so like, what about intimacy?

Unknown Speaker 56:03
See, that's where we have problems. Okay, I think it's complicated. It's complicated. It's complicated. But I will say this is that I used to be such a dog that, like, I don't want everyone to go back to doing that. Because I actually, I remember when I first stopped drinking, like I remember like, calling like all these old girls up just being like a listener. I just wanted to apologize for being a dog.

Unknown Speaker 56:36
That's nice. You know, I

Unknown Speaker 56:38
really, and that's what and that's one of the reasons why I stopped drinking. Yeah, oh, yeah. Like, I didn't like who I was when I was drinking in terms of like, going out, trying to hit on girls. And so I was like, you know, I don't like that. I don't. That's very disrespectful to women, you know, and I didn't, I didn't like that part. So like, that's one of the reasons why I stopped drinking.

Unknown Speaker 57:04
Yeah, that's awesome. I love that you're over three years sober now. Right? Yeah. Congratulations.

Unknown Speaker 57:10
Same here. Same here. And same as you. So congratulations to you as well. And same for DJs Oh, pepper Barrows.

Unknown Speaker 57:15
As always, actually five or six, six and a half, six and a half years sober. I love it. I love it. It's important to surround yourself with people on the same goal is you you know, so since you stopped drinking, like I said, it's how do you meet people? Because I know you're not looking. But you know, like, what's gonna happen now? You just could for me, honestly, for me, you know, I was four months sober when I met my partner. And when we've been together for three years on Thanksgiving, and I realized I noticed like, Oh my God, it is fucking awkward to go on a first date without having a couple, you know, glasses of wine beforehand, or, you know, it's hard to you know, get intimate with people without that liquid motivation or that you know, liquid courage or whatever. So I had to like, learn how to be me sober, learn how to date sober, even learn how to have sex sober, because I realized I'm like, people asked me like, actually tell me all your sex stories. I'm like, fuck, I was just can't remember, I was so drunk. You know, like, Oh, damn it, you know? And I'm like, I'm just being honest with everybody and honest with myself. And I'm like, Oh, now I gotta fucking learn how to be me sober and learn how to love sober and interact and all that. So what's something that in your sobriety that, you know, one thing that you've struggled, you're struggling with, as far as like love and romance? And one thing that's become way easier?

Unknown Speaker 58:42
Well, so let me let me take you back. So like, I said, that I didn't like that person I was becoming, because I was being you know, because I would drink. And I found that drinking is a crutch. I mean, it's, I mean, that's pretty. Everyone knows that. It's like, you drink. And I remember doing that as well. Like, you know, going to get a couple of drinks, I will talk to this girl. Let me get a couple of drinks and then go up on stage. And then when. And then when I realized that, like, If I don't drink, I can do all of those things whenever I want to. Not be because before it was, I need a drink to go do this. And everybody every time I'll, I'll get on stage if I'm drunk. I don't have to. Yeah, so like now I have nothing ever holding me back from going after what it is that I want whenever I want it. So it's actually easier for me to Amazings now because now I totally rely on just being me and being comfortable in my own skin. And so in terms of like, going out and finding people I'm you know, I'm a very, I'm into doing things right. Like, like solving puzzles and, and things like that. So, puzzle puzzle. So, um, so, yeah, puzzles. Are those weird? I think that's how I approach fighting to like solving a puzzle. Yeah, no, yeah, you got to solve this problem. But um, in terms of like meeting people, I truly don't even try to go out and meet people. I just meet people inadvertently, by doing things that are interesting to me. Yeah. So and I tell it's kind of how I meet people. Like, inadvertently I meet people that are also in the same, like atmosphere that I'm in.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:30
Yeah. And it's exactly it just goes back to what you said, you know, you said it's a turn off to have a partner who doesn't want to do things because you are the opposite. You like to do things. Actually. It's funny. One of my favorite movies is Jim Carrey. Yes, man. Have you ever seen that? Love that movie? It's basically about, you know, he gets under a spell or some shit. And he has to always say yes to everything. I remember that. But the way that his life unfolds and becomes beautiful, and he just, he becomes a happy person. Just say, Yes, you know, that can be made into somebody's sexual jokes, but you don't even like just just do it. Just get out there and do it. And I love that mentality. It seems like, as long as you just are open to doing things and trying new things, you're gonna meet new people. Right?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:16
Right, exactly. Because like, I'm not afraid to show up. And, like, I'm not afraid to like, go to a movie by myself or go to, like, I've been going to yoga to show up, you know, I'm saying and then I just, like, met people at yoga, and I'm not afraid to like, just show up and then meet people and talk to people. Yeah. And, and I think that now, like, I don't, hopefully, I don't give a creepy vibe, because people will like, talk back to me so. So it's not hard for me to like, meet people if I want to, because I'll just, I'll just show up and meet some and meet somebody

Unknown Speaker 1:01:46
for sure. I gotta ask, you know, not that I want to bring up the past. But when you were being a little bit of a dog gonna get into into that part of our lives, because we've, you know, matured from then. But do you remember? Like, maybe like one of your wildest places that you ever hooked up? Or, like a favorite quickie story or something like that?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:07
Oh, man, who? Yeah, I remember one time. So like, I remember one time I was hanging out with my boy, he passed away recently, actually. But um, I was hanging out my boys was years and years ago. And we went to this party. And I met a girl there. I didn't even know her. I didn't even know her name. And I remember just messing we were both drunk. And then we just started messing around on the couch. Next thing I know. I'm knee deep in the johns and just in front of people. Dang. Yeah. And I remember somebody walked in, like, somehow opened the door. And so all of a sudden, they just like, oh my god, what are you guys doing? Get out of here?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:58
Wild Yeah. Why? Oh, just at a party?

Unknown Speaker 1:03:01
Yeah, just I didn't even know. And like, Yeah, so like, you know, like, I'm not proud of that stuff. But like, I look back at that stuff. And go, Sure, man, I was, I was an idiot.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:12
I feel like it's important to get that out of your system, though. You know, so that in life later, because I feel this way. Um, I don't regret anything that I've done. You know, I regret the people that I've hurt, you know, and, right, right. I didn't do that. And I never intentionally meant to hurt anyone. But looking back, I'm like, I like my whole phase. You know, like I needed to, to get out to experience to be wild. And so that now that I'm older, I'm like, Okay, we did that. Moving on.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:42
Yeah, so I like what you say about that, like, you I regret the people that have hurt and I and that's where I've the way I feel too, which is why I reached out and like hit up on it. And there's even some girls that like, probably won't even take my call. And I wish they were because I really want to apologize that I'm sorry for being such a, you know, being such a Dazzle. But you're right, like, there's nothing that I truly regret. But there's a lot. The only thing that I do regret it sometimes actually not doing some things. Like what, like, I wish I wish that I had did more sometimes, like in that and not necessarily like sexually or, you know, in my dating life, but just in life in general. Like, the only things that I ever regret is like sometimes like not taking that chance like there's been girls or like maybe I wish I did talk to no matter what would happen if I did like, what? There's some times that I do wish that but that but there's nothing that I can say that I look back on that I wish that I didn't do.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:40
Yeah, yeah. The other day when I had your boy Phil Hawes on he was like, I didn't talk to Rihanna dammit. She was in the club. I didn't talk to her. You know, he was saying the same thing. You know, like, what's that? The office or Wayne Gretzky phrase? Yeah, you miss 100% of the shot it Oh,

Unknown Speaker 1:05:00
yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's true. And you know, because when you look back, like things that you did that you fail on, like, they're not that big of a deal. No, no, it's not that it's not that nothing is ever really that big of a deal. Like the benefits of something happening is outweighs the regret of doing it. So like, always just take the shot. And it's

Unknown Speaker 1:05:21
just like fighting. I mean, obviously, you're with me on this, I have a million fighting slash life analogies. But you know, they always say you learn more from a loss than you do from a win. And that's the same thing with life. You know, my failures, failures, air quotes, guys, you know, stabbing that guy that was a failure, but I learned so fucking much, you know, losing fights, heartbreaks relationships, they were quote, unquote, failures. But the things that I learned and took away, you can't buy that shit, right?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:54
Yeah, well, so I'll say this. Like, again, I'm totally, I love this function. And that was that I was talking to once, and I remember it. And I remember her telling me that she, and I won't name her name. But she told me she put another girl in a trunk. Because she was because she was trying to mess with her boyfriend. Like put her she put her in trunk. And at that moment, I fell in love with your like Boehner. I was like, I love you.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:24
What do you think it is about that kind of bad girl image that attracts you?

Unknown Speaker 1:06:29
I don't know. It's just really the fearlessness of that. Yes. Just being fearless like someone who's like willing to do that. But now

Unknown Speaker 1:06:36
as we're older, it's like, we can't quite date that kind of a bad girl or a bad guy. We need someone who has that in the past. Do you know what I mean?

Unknown Speaker 1:06:45
Yay. Like, do I have to know that they were willing to do that in their life. So that now I know that, you know, in terms of like, professionally, you're willing to take the next step to get that job that you want. Because you know, you are willing to stab him off. I need to know, I need to know that you bout that life. So like, that's really, really, I think that is probably my primary thing right now that I'm looking at I need and people in my life is people that are willing to just go out and do it. You know? So yeah, you got to have some type of checkered past for me.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:24
I love that. Now, you said you're shy guy, but I got to ask you about sex. Has there ever been something in the bedroom that a partner asked you to do that you were like, well, well, no, not me.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:38
I tell you what, and this. I am never an instance. And I think this may have happened a few times. Like I'm never letting anybody stick nothing inside of me. All right. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:54
You know what they say though, Dean, you know, they say that the male has a G spot up in your booty hole.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:01
I know, man. But that's just, I mean, but that's just so uncomfortable to me. Like, I've never let that happen. That is so uncomfortable. And I'll tell you, like, there's not much that I won't do in a bedroom. You know, I'm, I'm a dog.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:15
We're gonna get into the lightning sex race for sure.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:18
Listen, I get I get off on being a dog. You know, I'm saying like, but again, I was drunk at the time. But you know, saying but I you know, I'm saying like, I fish I get off, but I get off. But like, that was important to me to make sure. You know, some guys are selfish. Yeah. I'm very, I'm very unselfish.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:35
Do you remember at what age because I feel like young guys, they just want to get off themselves. Do you remember? Were you always like that? Or was there like an age or time in your life where you're like, man, it behooves me to make sure that my lady or whatever lady I'm with is sexually satisfied. And then get off because of X, Y, and Z.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:56
I think I was always like that. It's probably like I said, probably, you know, just my relationship with women just like, oh, like being such a hopeless romantic and wanting to please them. You know, I think that's probably where it comes from. Good job for me. Yeah, exactly. What do you need?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:11
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And there's a sense of like, there's a sense of like, accomplishment when you make your partner feel good, right?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:20
Oh, yeah, for sure. And that's, that's for me. Like, that is the number one that's important for me. Is it you know, when are they when we're done? Like, they're just sitting there like, oh,

Unknown Speaker 1:09:30
yeah, you did your job. You're like, yeah, I can leave now my job.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:37
Honestly, I can take care of myself, you know, yeah, make sure that you straight. That's important to me, you know,

Unknown Speaker 1:09:43
so since you know, I love asking this question because I have a lot of fighters males and females. We are alpha females, alpha males in the bedroom. Does that translate? Or is it kind of a time where you can actually be a little bit more submissive with your partner? I'm not sure what you're doing. So because you're, you know, an alpha male, but you're kind of like an introvert as well.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:04
No, I'm, I'm like the opposite. I'm not an alpha male in the room because like, I'm trying to be dominant, but I think he's just because, like, I'm just like, so ticklish. Okay, you really ticklish and I'm really I'm really ticklish and sensitive and I'm just gonna like, I don't know, don't touch me. Like, let me let me handle it because like I'm gonna I'm ticklish and it's not fair. It's not going to be like all that sexy. So like, just let me let me do it. And I think that's why it's not because like, I need to be like this man, man and you know and dominate. But I think it's just because I'm such a people pleaser like a woman pleaser, like I want to do to pleasing and like, I want to make sure that they're good to go. Not because like, I'm trying to be dominant. No,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:48
yeah, yeah. What What would you tell your younger self about sex? Specifically, that you wish you knew sooner? Were you always down to? You know, eat pussy or do you know, I don't know if you're in to eat and ask. It's like, you know, nowadays, it's it's the thing but back then it was like, Oh, don't do that.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:06
I don't know. So I got I remember I opened up what I don't eat as much. I'm probably not a big ass eater. Not saying that. I won't try it. But I guess it depends on the person because

Unknown Speaker 1:11:20
I feel like if you're like, yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:11:23
yeah. I'm like, I know a couple out there. I would definitely not. There's nothing I wouldn't do. Get off all in. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But no, I've always been down to do whatever. And I enjoy it. You know, like, it's, it's isn't like sometimes I'll kind of like, just, you know, relax. I got this. Yeah, just just chill out. You know, I'm saying

Unknown Speaker 1:11:47
Do you have a bedroom pet peeve. And it could be you know, anything as small as bad breath or, you know, as big as a woman trying to stick a finger in your booty hole or anything like that?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:59
No, I'm obviously bad breath. Like that's obviously a big priority. A big turn is probably a big turnoff for anybody. But I would think so it also tools like I'm a cuddler to like, I can be a cadaver sometimes. And I think that I got that way as I got older. Yeah. Towards like, I don't, I don't mind cuddling. Like afterwards, I can cuddle. So I think so a pet peeve for me would be if she doesn't want to cuddle with you. You probably like it. Yeah, I would. I would have to say so. Probably like she was like, like if it was if we were done and she would just like, get out. Oh, no, no. Would you let her be the big spoon? Yeah, yeah, I would feel weird, but I would. Okay, I blame mentors. I got I'm holding on to myself.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:55
All right. I feel like it's time for the lightning sex round for you listening who are not familiar with this segment, it is a rapid fire yes or no segment where we get to know Dean's so even

Unknown Speaker 1:13:14
get to elaborate. I just say yes or no,

Unknown Speaker 1:13:16
no, actually, I always let me finish my schpeel Okay, so my bad my bad. Because I've been yelled at by the listeners. If you do have a story or you would like to elaborate, feel free but for the most part if you want to just say yes or no. Okay, okay. All right, here we go. Lightning six round wood Dean. Here we go. Do you dirty talk in bed? No, no, no, no. All right. Okay. Do you spank her like to be spanked?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:48
No. Okay, so let me Alright, I'm gonna go back to dirty talk. I don't care you're talking bed? Because I feel like I use my I'm using my mouth for other things.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:57
Oh, okay. That is a really good explanation.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:01
I'm pretty. I'm preoccupied.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:03
He's like if I'm in the bed. I'm active. I'm not just talking about it. I'm being about it.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:09
Yeah, I'm preoccupied Okay, so like I don't got time to talk. Thank you for

Unknown Speaker 1:14:13
elaborating make sense?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:15
To elaborate on I don't I don't spank I don't spend I don't I never really got the the lore of spanking or being spanked so I don't I don't do that. Okay,

Unknown Speaker 1:14:24
how about biting?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:27
No, I'm not a biter. Okay, choking no matter how boring am i You're not

Unknown Speaker 1:14:34
boring. I always figure jujitsu choking you guys kind of know how to do it right the right kind of pressure you know you guys are kind of like the perfect people to choke you know, you know one kid you know make her feel a little danger and then could kill or whatever.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:52
I haven't gotten into that yet. Like I haven't I haven't found the the law of that either like choking and like pain and all those

Unknown Speaker 1:15:00
Yeah, that's a whole nother level for me. I'm like, take me to the point before the pain. This is all about pleasure. No pain, man.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:06
Yeah, yeah, that's so like, that's where I'm at right now. Well, pleasure.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:09
What about threesomes? I would wish you girls and have you know, I

Unknown Speaker 1:15:18
have not. Never. But no.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:20
Oh, we got to you got to do that before you die, Dean.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:24
I know. So like that's, that's it's on the bucket list.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:26
All right on the sexual bucket list, which we love talking about as well. It's alright, that's a bucket list. And then sorry.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:34
So let me elaborate. Let me elaborate again. I think that comes down to you know, my desire to please. So it's almost like I like that relationship, that one on one relationship and then pleasing that other person as opposed to like, having like all each other.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:52
You only got one mouse. How much work can you do? You got to

Unknown Speaker 1:15:57
listen to too much. You know,

Unknown Speaker 1:16:00
just a really nice reason to say that, you know, for sure. Okay. How about porn? Do you watch porn? Sometimes, sometimes.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:09
Not a tremendous amount, though.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:11
It makes your brain all wonky. It's hard to come later. Any fetishes like a foot fetish.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:19
You know what I have a fetish for perhaps probably the inside of thighs.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:24
Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:26
I've always been kind of attracted to like the little the inside of the thigh.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:30
What so does a girl need a a thigh gap? Or fucka? Thigh Gap?

Unknown Speaker 1:16:34
No, no, not necessarily. No. No, because I

Unknown Speaker 1:16:38
know you like the thicker ladies. You know, with a thicker woman. You don't get a thigh gap. But when you know, like always like, Oh, that little thigh gap is sexy.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:46
No, I never really thought of that as being sexy. rather have a little bit of meat. Yeah, like the like the little like the like the inside of the thigh in the hamstring. Oh, yeah. For whatever reason. It's always been

Unknown Speaker 1:16:58
so funny. You say that my partner is the same way. He's like you have the best hamstrings. I'm like, That's a weird one. But I'll take it. Okay, I love it. A hamstring is good. A hamstring? A hamstring? What about roleplaying? Because you've done acting. So this could be right up your alley or you don't want to mix you know, work in the bedroom?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:20
No, I've never I've never tried it. But I would. I would. I mean I think I could do you know roleplay porn. Like, hey, come over here.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:30
I need my TV fixed. Wait. You wouldn't be fixed to the TV. Hey, or I'm a feminist. What about bondage like ropes, blindfold handcuffs.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:44
See? No, I couldn't do that. That's what I'm saying. Like, I could like I would be so uncomfortable. If so and I that. It makes me uncomfortable to even watch it sometimes. Really? Yeah, like when people got your hands tied and somebody's like doing stuff to him like to me. Like I couldn't do that.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:00
Why why not? You cannot relinquish control. Right. Yeah. I would be like, ah, get your so ticklish to.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:11
I'm so ticklish. I'm like, Okay, so like, that's another thing, right? So like, okay, so like after, you know, after our bus, you know, I'm saying? Like, my whole body is just sensitive, readily ticklish.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:22
Oh, ticklish?

Unknown Speaker 1:18:24
Yeah. So like, so after I bust like if you touch me, I'm like, I'm like the Pillsbury Doughboy.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:34
You like to cuddle afterwards? Or do you need like a decompression time?

Unknown Speaker 1:18:38
But that's me touching. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm saying so but I'm saying like, if so like if that if they're like, like, trying to correct me. I'm so ticklish. It seems

Unknown Speaker 1:18:47
like you have to be the leader in the situation.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:51
Yeah, but again, it's not because like, I just need to be dominant. You know?

Unknown Speaker 1:18:55
No, no, no, it's a different reasoning. But right, essentially, like lead the dance. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:19:01
I would prefer to lead today. It'll

Unknown Speaker 1:19:03
be a lot more sexy and less giggle

Unknown Speaker 1:19:05
Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot more. A lot less giggles And trust me, I'm gonna take care of you. Don't worry about I got you. All right.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:13
How about but stuff on you are on? Well, the question is but stuff on you or a partner. But we already covered that. So but stuff on a partner.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:23
I mean, it's not my favorite thing. I mean, you know, if they enjoyed it, I would do it. But it's not my favorite thing.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:27
Okay. Do you use sex toys?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:31
Shira, you use anything? I use a spatula.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:36
You ever had a girl troll Roebuck? Have you ever had a girl bring out like a sex toy and you were just like, whoa.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:46
No, I've never had that. I mean, I would like I'm not opposed to that as long as it's been used on her. Actually, you know what I have? I have used it on on a girl before I have this fun. It's like, yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. I don't mind it. I don't mind

Unknown Speaker 1:20:04
that ever been to a sex club or a swingers party? I have not. Is that on the bucket list? Or you could do without?

Unknown Speaker 1:20:13
Like, part of me wants it to be on the bucket list. But then I also have like this fear that I'm gonna go in there, and it's just gonna be a bunch of ugly. Yeah, this is not what I thought it was gonna be like on TV, it looks so much cooler. You know?

Unknown Speaker 1:20:25
Yeah, that's actually, what a couple people have told me that have been there. They're like, you get in there. And you're like, wait, wait, this is like 75% males. And

Unknown Speaker 1:20:35
yeah, like a bunch of hairy dudes, you know, say, big old bellies sticking out? Like, I guess the impression that I get? And I'm like, Man, this is not what, uh,

Unknown Speaker 1:20:44
for sure. For sure. Do you think you could have sex in front of people? I know you did when you were younger, but that was alcohol. And now with the personality that you have, it's hard to say because you know, you are a kind of fuck it. Do it kind of person but also an introvert. So

Unknown Speaker 1:20:59
depends on the circumstance depends on the circumstance, like I wouldn't want to. I'm not afraid to. But it's not something that I would just be like. I can let's do that. Yeah. You know, I couldn't you know, I couldn't do it in front of like, my friends.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:17
Yeah, like, that's

Unknown Speaker 1:21:18
one thing that I would never ever do. is like, have, like an orgy or a threesome with people that I know. Like, when I hear about guys doing it, like I've heard about some some fellas, like, Yeah, but we heard these girls over it. I could never in a million years do that. Like I would never want to look at my homeboys. Penis. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:40
Trust me. I have some friends that. Yeah, they kind of like brag. It's like, me and Joe Schmo. Yeah, we shared this girl. I'm like, it's not a cup of tea. You know? Like, what? Don't you want the tea for yourself?

Unknown Speaker 1:21:55
Yeah, I never want I never want to do that.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:58
I mean, we're gonna do my thing on the show is we don't yuck. Anyone's yum. You know, to each their own whatever floats your boat, you know, but I know. Yeah. For me personally. I'm like, I'm a little selfish. You know? That's my reasoning. I'm like, All right, another girl here. Get out of here. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:22:15
well, I just, I'm really just like my friends. Like, I don't want to see my my boys. You know? I don't wanna see my boys in action.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:21
For sure. For sure. You gotta look them in the eye and roll jujitsu. Yeah, can get real weird real fast. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:22:27
I don't want to see that. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:29
Are you a lingerie lover? Do you enjoy your ladies in lingerie?

Unknown Speaker 1:22:33
I would prefer them naked. Yeah. So here's that, you know what, that's, I'll be honest with you. It's kind of a pet peeve for me actually. Really. Um, and I think girls probably like to, like, get all sexy, dressed up and be all sexy. And I'm just kind of like

Unknown Speaker 1:22:55
you know what, just take it off. It looks better on the floor getting naked. You know? I'm

Unknown Speaker 1:23:00
saying yeah, yeah. I mean, I've heard both, you know, and sometimes, guys or girls want to be rough, too. I don't know if you have some people I don't want to call a fetish, but they like kind of like ripping the clothes off. You know? So it's like, maybe that's a reason. I don't know. I feel like for me, I only wear lingerie. If I have a photo shoe. I don't need one more step between me and him and sex. You know?

Unknown Speaker 1:23:26
That's the way I feel about it. Just take all right, cool. You spent all this money on it. Take it Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'm not trying to rip it off. I'm not strong enough.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:39
Ever Are you into body hair? Is that okay? Or no body here?

Unknown Speaker 1:23:45
I am into somebody's hair. Like that little happy trail from this. Like, you know what? I love the little so like, there's a couple places where I love the glow body hairs. Again, like the inside of the thigh. There can be some hair.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:59
Really? Okay. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:01
I mean, it's not it's not it's not like that. As long as it ain't like not a forest. Yeah, not. Yeah. And then, like right underneath the belly button.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:10
That little happy trail. Yeah, really? gonna shave that thing? I don't like it. Oh, let's look so weird.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:19
Just just just a little piece under the belly button. Okay, don't have to like the rest of it could be cut off but the little piece

Unknown Speaker 1:24:26
you need like a white girl with some belt belly hair because a Mexican girl. It's not sexy. Oh, yeah. I'm half Mexican, so I can say dark as hell. Okay. Ever been caught masturbating or having sex? Oh, yeah. You said this.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:42
Yeah. All right. Never never caught masturbating.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:45
That's the end of the lightning sex round. Not so bad, right? That's not so

Unknown Speaker 1:24:49
bad. Like, I'm just glad I never been caught masturbating because that would be pretty embarrassing.

Unknown Speaker 1:24:54
All right, let's play Fuck, Marry, Kill and do some fan questions. In one marry one kill one go. I think we're done. We're done here. So Fuck, Marry kill for the new listeners. I'm gonna give him three names and he's gonna tell me who he would fuck who he would marry and who we would kill and I say this every time this is just a game and we love everybody we didn't want to kill no one and we respect everyone all right moving forward. Dean you can choose from either media personalities or celeb fans in attendance

Unknown Speaker 1:25:39
celebs fans in attendance you want that one? Or media personalities? Media as in like who likes MMA media? I don't know. Let's do celebs.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:53
Okay, take the south safe route. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:56
Okay, now let's do let's do media personality. All right, you know guys in Arizona because Oh, no,

Unknown Speaker 1:26:00
no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, great. Female. I always give my guests you know, if they identify a certain way, I give them the appropriate guests. That's why I ask ahead of time. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:10
Because I've just been like, I don't know many. There's a lot of female. Okay, let's do this.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:13
Female media personalities. Fuck, Marry, Kill. Here you go out of Laura Sanko Megan Olivi and Karen Bryant. You get to choose who you would fuck who you would marry who you would kill. And as a personal one, I'm sure because I'm sure you work with some of these ladies as well. Oh, no. Oh, no. He's like, I retract my statement. Go back to No, no, no, no. We love all these ladies. I look up to look up to every single one of these ladies.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:43
So alright, so here we go. All right, I got I'm gonna marry Laura Sanko because she's, you know, she's a she's a G you know, so she's, you know, she's I could see me hanging out with her like all the time.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:59
I bet she has a very dainty happy trail too.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:02
Yeah. MEGAN I had to give her to business.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:11
All right. All right. Sorry, then. Sorry, Joe.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:15
And then Karen. And what I had to kill her because I'm gonna be afraid to look at her and I afterwards. You don't know. Okay. Yeah. I don't have to. I won't have to look at it afterwards because she's she got left out.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:31
So we love all these ladies. Okay. All right. So the next part are fan questions. But for those listeners who will not be following us to the UFC fight pass platform. You guys are crazy. This is where all the good stuff happens. If you want to subscribe the link is always in our episode notes. For those who are not going to follow us where can they find you on all social media handles or your stand up comedy or anything else that you're a part of right now?

Unknown Speaker 1:27:59
At Dean Thomas di N Thomas, so fine. Everything is at Dean Thomas. I try to make sure everything is

Unknown Speaker 1:28:05
consistent with awesome and we didn't talk about exactly what you're doing in the media. You're on the desk but where can they see you as far as analyst and commentary goes?

Unknown Speaker 1:28:14
So yeah, I worked at desk on ESPN plus and sometimes ESPN and you can see me on all the paper views I they bring me in in between rounds or so on and so forth to help the commentators out give them some more perspective. Dana White looking for a fight the Dean diaries and as you could also hear me on Sirius XM I have a show on Tuesday from 12 to two and then with RJ Clifford then on Wednesdays from 12 to two with Anthony Smith. That every day from two to four Eastern or I'm sorry from four to six eastern time I'm on ESPN West Palm and you can listen to me there

Unknown Speaker 1:28:53
wow, you are a busy man. Congratulations on all that work. That's that's

Unknown Speaker 1:28:58
all Thank you very much. I get I get around. I get around. Like I said before I used to get around in one way now I'd get around.

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I like I like to see you do both to be honest, but I just want you to be happy Okay, guys, and that is it for episode 24. With Mr. Dean, Thomas, man, you really can't judge a book by its cover. And what I mean is I just thought when you see someone who's on their social media who just seems to be so outgoing and so confident, you know, that's not always the case. And it's not that Dean is not confident he just, he showed a side of himself that you don't get To see on social media and that's essentially why I love this fucking podcast. I love this job. I can't believe UFC fight pass is paying me. Oh my god, please keep paying me. I love this job I love getting to know my fellow fighters, especially the people like Dean who paved the fucking way for us. And, you know, maybe, you know, I don't know if you guys like to hear current fighters or former fighters or you enjoy a mix, but I will continue to give you a mix because it's only right I want to show appreciation and love to the people who got us here right. UFC fight pass is the world's premier combat sports streaming service with over 200 live events, the largest fight library in existence, original shows and more. Sign up for one year and get half off for a limited time at UFC fight backslash sign up next week. Okay, guys, I know I said this last week, but he's back. He rescheduled he re booked with us it was my bad. Jason Ellis will be coming on the show. Very talented Aussie. He is a radio personality podcast host, former pro skateboarder and most recently has been doing stand up comedy guys, I went in person I saw him live fucking hilarious and I'm not being biased. It's really good comedy and it's very controversial. I think maybe not being controversial is the right word. It's very he's not afraid to hit the sensitive topics you know, he's a comes from an alpha male type of background industry skateboarding, fighting all that and he talks about his sexuality. And I won't spoil it for you but such a funny funny guys and oh, I will be on his podcast the day before he is on my podcast. So I don't know when he releases that but look out for that should be fun as well. And as always, if you want to support the show, please go to the website sex violence with rebel Or you can support me by going to Ashley rebel And if you want to email us that sex and violence podcast at Gmail for all your guests suggestions, fan questions, if you want to tell us a funny story that we can share on the show that would be awesome. Anything else? And that's it guys. I love you. Thank you so much for tuning in every week. Please check out UFC fight pass it's worth it man Zol always telling you guys they got some extra cool stuff on there are guests that we just talked to he's on there he has a podcast actually what the fuck we didn't we did not even talk about that. We he just does so much you know it's we needed another another two hours to get the full Dean Thomas But Dean has a podcast on the UFC fight pass platform as well. It is called lover and a fighter. And he has a co host. His name is is leaving my brain right now but check that out guys. Special thank you to audio engineer DJ Zol who has welcomed us into his home. Regardless of what's going on. We always get it done. The studio burned down one time and we still did a show so thank you so check him out at DJ XO on Instagram. And tomorrow kids studio at oh I'm sorry. Well, yeah, at tomorrow kids studio at tomorrow kids official. And you can always find us on Instagram at sex and violence. With rebel girl and myself. At Ashley MMA. We do have a backup account. It's the same thing sex and violence with rebel girl with the number two at the end. We are constantly shadow banned from social media because our fucking name is everything that's not supposed to be on there. Sex and violence. So follow both accounts. Hopefully we don't get nuked again. But you know, there are parents out there. So remember guys, be kind, be grateful. But don't take shit from anyone. Talk to you next week with a new guest and more tales of sex and violence. Bye

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