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what's happening hot stuff? What is up my naughty listeners? We are back in the studio and holy shit. I think it's been like three weeks, three weeks old since we had an episode three fucking weeks. I missed you guys. Did you miss me? I really did. I really miss putting out content, you know, sharing on social media talking with you guys. But I did get some really cool guest suggestions while I was in Colombia from you guys. And actually, today's guest is one of those guests suggestions. So if you think that I don't listen to you, you're fucking wrong. I listen. And I really care. Thank you guys. Because, you know, if you guys let me know who you want to hear from, I will reach out to them and have them on the podcast. So thank you for that. But yeah, we're back. Now I was gone for stem cells. If you guys are long term listeners, then you know, fuck, I had been waiting for that for six months. And finally I did it. You know, I can't I couldn't be happier right now. I, I'm a little I'm nauseous. But that's part of the whole thing. You know, I got stem cells down in Mexico, you know, five, six months ago, however long it's been. And that was part of the process, you know, just nausea and feeling a little off and a little bit of just, you know, not yourself feeling weak, but it's such a small price to pay for all the benefits of stem cells. If you guys have heard me talk, you know, I am such an advocate. And after going to Columbia, I can't tell you enough. Bio Excelerator is the fucking shit guys. Like it's just the professionalism, the warmth of the whole staff, you know, from the patient concierge to the doctors, the front desk guides, everyone, they're just so friendly. Colombia in general, I had never been it's a beautiful place. It's called the so metazine is where I went. And it is the city of eternal spring. It's known for its unlimited resources and perfect fucking weather. And everyone there is polite and nice. You know, I mean, obviously, I didn't meet everyone. But, you know, an example is you go into the elevator, and everybody's like, you know, what a start is, and you know, they greet you. And they say goodbye. And my boyfriend and I were looking at each other like, oh, like, we better start greeting people. We just, we felt like assholes. And after a while we got you know, in the rhythm, we started talking to people and it just realized, like, that's, that's the culture there. And it was nice, you know, it's like kind of going to a small town where everybody, you know, looks you in the eye and says, Hello, how are you and makes friendly conversation and it felt good. And it just made the whole trip. Really fun. And a couple other things we noticed, like, you know, there wasn't like as much trash like people just obviously took pride in their city in their country. And, you know, I had zero expectations. I didn't know what to compare it to. I was kinda stupidly thinking like, oh, it will be like Mexico, I just kind of chunked it together. Like I'm getting I got stem cells there. It'll be the same in Colombia, but it was not. And, you know, not just the city, but the actual doctors. You know, I went and I got stem cells in my knee, my elbow and also my spine. And you know, I'm not going to sit here and tell you guys that it didn't hurt or that it was easy peasy. You know, but from other situations that I've experienced, this was the easier situation and you know, I can't recommend it enough if you yourself are in a situation right now where you're You know, have chronic pain or you're thinking about surgery, please do yourself a favor and look into stem cells. You know, it's, it's different when you go out of the country, you know, long story short, they use embryonic cells, which are from the umbilical cords of donated, you know, donated umbilical cords, and the mothers are all tested, and they're all, you know, the pregnancies are all, you know, seen, you know, so it's like, when the baby's born, they know that it's a healthy baby and all that before they actually use the stem cells. And one thing that I found out, too, when I was in Colombia, that the stem cells are from mothers who are unvaccinated. So, you know, without getting into a political conversation, you know, take with take what you will from that information. I thought that was pretty cool, to be honest, in my own personal opinion. And yeah, I just, I'm not going to talk forever about stem cells, but I just can't tell you how good my experience was, when I went there. Also, right now, the dollar, versus the peso is crazy. So I brought like 500 bucks, and was balling out of control. We, we, we went horseback riding, and we saw the city. And it was just a great experience. If you can make it to Colombia, do yourself a favor, go there. It's a fun, beautiful place, and the people are warm. And the medical procedures are, you know, not like anything that they're doing here in the States. And not like they're doing anything, they're not doing anything like they are in Mexico, either. I recommend Colombia, check out social media, if you want to look them up, it's at bio accelerator, I'm going to be putting it in the show notes for quite some time. Because it's just I can tell it's, it's going to change my life. You know, I'm already filling

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some of the benefits. I'm in the stages of nausea right now. But it takes about six months for the stem cells to do their full thing. And I'll be getting back into full fightcamp Very soon. So if you guys are a fan of me fighting and not just podcasting, it's finally fucking happening. And I'm just so happy guys. I know your girl has been talking about it for you know, way too long, you know, two fucking years now. But, you know, when I got injured, or when I started initially feeling the pain in my neck and my left side of my body, I had no idea that it would take me this long to get back in the cage, you know, but I've been doing everything possible to give it my all and to get back in that cage, you know, for at least a few more fights, you know, I'm gonna rock it to the wheels fall off. And if the stem cells do what I hope they're gonna do, then, you know, hopefully, three, five more years of, you know, fighting in the cage. And that's what I really want to be doing. I love podcasting. I love cage side interviews or in cage interviews, all the stuff I've been doing, which I'll tell you about in a minute, but my heart is still with fighting. And I just can't stop. I can't stop until I leave it all in the cage. You know what I mean? So all right, no, not with the mushy stuff. But yeah, I'm feeling good. Minus the nausea. And if you guys want any information, please reach out to me. I'm just an advocate. And you know, a fucking pin cushion. And so who better to ask than me so hit me up. A couple things I want to tell you before we get to our guest, February 25. That is not this weekend, but the following weekend. I will be doing some in cage and cage side interviews again, for up next fighting the local fire promotion that I work for. I love this promotion guys, every single time I go and work for them. The show gets better and better. The fights are great. Obviously we've got a Pro Am card every single time you know you start the night off with some amateur fighters and those guys just always come out guns a blazing so that just gets the crowd crazy hyped up. You know, it's like two minutes, and they just leave it all in the fucking cage. It's so it's so fun. And then you get the pro fighters which are awesome matchups. You know, it's usually Bellator vets and UFC veterans. Actually, let me just tell you for this next show UNF number five, I think tickets are actually on sale they better be and you can get get tickets right up next But the main fights that I think I should tell you guys about is the main event which is Albert mirallas. He's actually defending his featherweight belt against Javier Garcia this is going to be a banger guys, these are two local guys. And so that I know the house will be packed and then just you know, these are two high level guys. Albert used to be in the UFC. I think he's making his way back there honestly. And Javier Garcia is now not to be taken lightly. This guy is a fucking good grappler so that's going to be a banger. And then right below that we you know, maybe co main event. Francisco Cisco Rivera is taking on Chris. The real deal Beale and Chris Beal and Rivera used to be in the UFC. So just high level competition. We also have Megatron route Yan Yan. I said that correctly. I've been practicing my Armenian. He is a former Olympic Greco Roman wrestler. This guy is definitely exciting to watch. You don't want to miss it. He's back in the cage. I think he was on up next like two or three I forget which one and then also last thing I want to tell you is that for the first time in UNF history, two women will step in the up next cage and that will be Britney Victoria taking on McKenzie gene and one of these ladies for HubSpot and Invicta the other one has extensive Muay Thai background. I think the Invicta girl has a grappling background. So it's kind of you know, grappler verse striker. And I'm just excited to see two ladies in there for the first time. I know it will be the first time but not the last time. So check that out guys. I will be there doing my thing as well. Cage side and in cage interviews, if you listen to me, on the episode, before I went to Colombia, I was basically telling you how nervous I was. Because I didn't want to fuck up in the cage. And I didn't it went really good. I always over think everything and over prepare, I tell you fucking all these fighters background stories and what their grandmas names are. But at the end of the day, you just sit there you watch the fight and you ask a couple good questions afterwards. And, you know, you let the fighters talk and you let them get out their emotions. And the job really does itself and so I'm excited to go back and get better at that job as well and just watch some good fights. And yeah, that is about it. Guys. I'm just happy to be back in the studio. Life is going good. I really can't complain. If you guys know me and you you've been listening for a while you know that my partner is opening 10th planet Whittier, which is just you know, his lifelong dream finally coming to fruition. Fucking pandemic has been a roller coaster for anyone trying to open a business and I couldn't be more proud of him. I am a very proud girlfriend. And if you guys are in the LA County area, or even Orange County and you want to start doing some 10th planet jujitsu with a very badass black belt, obviously he is my jujitsu coach. So I trust him, you know, going to war with him. i He cornered me from our last UFC fight, and he will be cornering me again. So that's at Oh, no, it's www join 10 p And I'll put all these links in the show notes. Probably for the probably for a while now. Because that's going to be our gym. 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Sister of a rocket scientist losing a partner to homicide rushed Savannah weddings met ex hubby on mushrooms serial monogamist Tinder marriage breakup, tattooing swingers looking for a roided man seeking a deathmatch with hood foot tipped with a crack rock at tattoo parlor and much more. Here's your guest, Lindsey Jane snow

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All right, we're here with Lindsey Jane snow Lindsey. You and I pretty much already became best friends on our pre episode call. So this is gonna be great. I'm very excited to have you on the show. Yeah, just what do you do and where are you at right now? How's your day going?

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Um, well right now I'm at home. My day has been pretty good. I went to work earlier made some tattoos and now I'm hanging out with you. So it's pretty badass day

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so good. Well, let's jump right into it. I'm excited to interview a pro wrestler I've had on Zetas saying and thunder Rossa, but not a lot of wrestlers, and definitely not female wrestlers. So I'm really excited. I know that you have wrestled for AW, and WWE and some other organizations. Tell me where you're at right now. And kind of what the future looks like for you wrestling wise.

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Man wrestling wise. I feel like the possibilities are endless. I'm just coming back off of taking a little bit of a break. I had some real life stuff that I needed to attend to. And now I'm back surfing the Indies. I feel really great. I feel like I'm getting recognition. I'm getting a lot of matches that I really like I'm really stoked about. Yeah, man. I don't know. I think that I think that pro wrestling for me is in like my golden era. So I'm just really excited right now I got so many axes to be.

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Okay, so you and I were talking a little bit before the show started just about the ins and outs of wrestling. I feel like such a dweeb because I'm like, What's a deathmatch? What's this? What's a work? What's a shoe? You know? And all the hardcore fans are like, Oh God, actually, but it's not my world. So forgive me for asking about that stuff. But, you know, how did you get started in this world? Because it's, you know, it's a little bit different especially for a female for myself, right like MMA. It's weird to see a female in a cage and it's different to see a female pro wrestler, how did you get started?

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Um, so I've been a fan of pro wrestling, like basically like my whole life. I was lucky enough to have a dad that watched pro wrestling. And he was all about the rock and stone cold. So that naturally just rubbed off on me, you know? And he never He never had a son. So yeah, two little girls and I'm right there like jumping around in like dropping elbows on my dad, you know? Like constantly like That's how I learned how to move my eyebrows. And I don't have too much Botox right now. So I am still going to do it. But yeah, I just I grew up with wrestling I grew up watching with my dad. And then as I grew up like as I started getting older I started watching more like pride and then obviously C came around but pride became my shit like fader and Sakuraba those are my dudes and you know, I immediately like started downloading like everything I could get like I was watching favours, Sambo seminars in Russia. And like, that's just like all of our my place. And like all of it, memory like nothing but seminars, the in languages that I don't speak. I just, I just became obsessed. And then, as I got older than that, you know, I wanted to actually participate. And so that's when I started training Jiu Jitsu. And, you know, I've been tattooing for almost 20 years now, at my point in my life. At this point in my life right now. I've been tattooing almost 20 years. So like tattooing is always like brought really everything that I love back into my life and a different sort of way. It's, it's kind of strange, but I actually was tattooing a guy and watching pro wrestling while I was tattooing him and he's like, Oh, that's so weird. Like a girl that likes pro wrestling, you know? As like, yeah, I love this shit. I want to be a pro wrestler one day and he was just like, oh, well, check this out. I do pro wrestling. This is where we train at if you want to come come by this weekend. Wow. So I fucking wrestling shoes. And I was there that weekend. And and started training. And yeah, so tattooing kind of brought pro wrestling into my life. And another way that I never would have thought possible. So yeah, that's when I started training, pro wrestling. And I had already been competing in jujitsu tournaments. So I had that background with jujitsu going for me. So then I was able to meet Jay Lethal. And he just kind of took me under his wing and was like, Yeah, we're gonna teach you the right way how to do shit. And that's my dad.

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Wow, that's so cool. I mean, obviously, you see my body. I love tattoos. But I always say like, I have a really good friend, Dan Kenny, he's a musician. And he's always like, ah, if we could just change jobs, I'd love to be a UFC fighter for a day. And he's in like the basis of a like, very popular death metal band. I'm like, Yeah, I want to be a rock star. But then the other job that I'm always like, thinking that would be super perfect is a tattoo artists because I love you know, I'm not artistic at all. But I love the idea of just getting to meet all these different people and hear their background and their stories and network. And obviously, like, you know, oh, I want to wrestle, boom, here's an opportunity to go wrestle stuff like that happens probably all the time to you.

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It does, it's so crazy. Like, I get really crazy opportunities all the time. And then people get naked for me all the time. But it's like most of the time. It's like people you don't want to see. And like, you're at dinner with your parents. And then all of a sudden, there's like 65 year old ladies like whipping it out. And you're just like, whoa, like, I'm here with my dad. Nothing away.

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Wow. Yeah, I'm sure you beat a lot of characters for sure. So okay, so that's like a very quick synopsis of how you got involved in jujitsu and wrestling and whatnot. You know, so you've been doing it and tattooing also for 20 years? I'm 35. You're 35 I know, this is kind of like a bummer question. But I get asked all the time. What is the lifespan of a pro wrestler? You know, for me, I've got about three to five more years. I say, you know, I don't I don't see myself competing past 40 But maybe it's different for a pro wrestler.

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I mean, I'm gonna go until my body says I can't and which I think is like a thing that a lot of wrestlers have a hard time knowing when to hang up the towel. And I feel like Fedora kind of just like ran into that shit, too. You know, like, it sucks to watch that as his last fight, you know, but it's like, dang, dude, like, I wish you would have gone out on top, you know? Like, I feel like I want to go out on top and but like, I don't know if like, I'm gonna be able to do that. You know? Like, it's something that we have to say to ourselves like, alright, this is really this is really it. But like being a female pro wrestler like I realized that like our lives Hands are not as long as the dudes know, it's kind of suck. Nah, I don't I don't feel like the women last half as long as the guys like the guys can can go you know for a lot longer and they want to see the guys do that nobody wants to see an old lady hit her up. It's true. It's really, really not appealing. Let's be real like, it's like you only want to see Get your ass beat when you're young and beautiful. You know, for sure not when you're old and brittle.

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I think I think most MMA fighters have the same mentality I know I do. I just say I'm going to rock it to the wheels fall off. You know, I've gotten stem cells in multiple countries now and surgeries and a fake fucking disc in my neck. And so I, you know, I know I'm a little crazy, you're probably a little crazy. But it's like when you fall in love with something. It's so hard to call it quits. And I actually told my partner I was like, All right, my boyfriend. I'm like, Look, if there comes a time where, you know, I obviously should hang it up. But I'm still you know, trying to try my best. I'm like, Just Just tell me like, be that person. Love me enough to be like, Look, it's time to hang it up. And he was like, Well, I will tell you it's not that time. But I will tell you.

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That's a good day. That's a really good day. I'm happy for you. They do.

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So what are some jujitsu goals that you have?

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Definitely want to get my black belt for sure. I want to be able to go and train in Brazil. I haven't done any training in Brazil yet. I want to go train with Donna her. Obviously, like, there's people out there that I haven't trained with the I really want to and like I feel like that's the coolest thing about jujitsu is that like, no matter where you go, like you guys all have like the same respect for each other because you're all studying the same shit. Like the same art form, not necessarily the same shit. Because like every school is different in like, their background and what they teach and who you're under, you know, like your legacy and whatnot. But yeah, I just I feel like there's nothing that can really bring someone closer than like them trying to kill you.

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It's very, very true. You bleed sweat and cry together, and you get real fucking close real fast.

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Yeah, exactly isn't dissimilar with

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Is it similar with wrestling in that sense, where, you know, you can go into a jujitsu gym and you can cross train, you can roll but you know, can you do that with a wrestling gym? Do you go to wrestling gyms and wrestle?

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I do. Yeah, but not everybody does. I think that it's super important for to cross train. And like, there's all this knowledge out there that you're depriving yourself of, by not learning from other people that do the same shit that you do. And if you value your craft, if you value what you do, then you're gonna do the best that you can to make yourself the best that you can be. And that's always been my kind of point of view, on training in general, if you give a fuck about it, then you're going to do everything you can to learn. And, you know, that's, that's why I started out with, you know, getting all of like, the seminars that I could get, you know, I started with that, then I got a bunch of money from this gambling cruise. And then I bought a plane ticket just to go train with Eric Paulson. And I was gonna stay in my rental car, you know, like, I don't obviously think things all the way through. But my heart is there and like, I know that I want to get better at something. So I'm going to put myself into a position where I can learn to where I can better myself.

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And it makes for awesome stories when you don't quite think everything through. So it's all good. Yeah. Eric Paulson, now he's out here in California, right? Yes, he is in La Brea. Okay, so and you're in Florida. So do you just come you know, train for a couple months, then go back to Florida? How's that work?

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So, not a couple of months. I wish that I could train for a couple of months. But no, so what had happened was so obviously, I'm a crazy person. And I do things on a whim all the time, you know, because why wouldn't

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it keeps like, it's all good.

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Yeah. So I, I knew about Eric, I had heard about Eric, from friends in the league in the community, you know, they're always like, yeah, if you like catch wrestling, then you should go to the truth, Eric. And so I was like, Yeah, I want to do a train with Eric and I wanted to go train with Josh and they were both at CSW. So I was like, Oh, well, I'm gonna take this money that I just ran wanted this gambling casino boat thing that I just went on, randomly. But I went home, purchased my ticket and got my rental car situated and I was just like, perfect. I can shower in the gym, I can stay in my rental car right outside the gym, and then there's an In and Out Burger, like a mile away. Set. Right, so I go and I'm like, I'm gonna just take every class like, Okay, I know you don't know me very well, but I don't really like fuck around with Sandra. Okay, I'm on ground like grappler like from the ground and I like leg locks, leg locks, Army shit, okay. But I don't really fuck around with like, stand up too hard. At this point in my game, I wasn't. So I took stand up, I took every fucking class that he had on the docket that day, I was like, I'm gonna go every fucking class and I'm gonna die. It's gonna be great. And I was like, if anything, I'm just gonna meet people, and that'll be cool. But all I'm thinking about is that I'm gonna get to take every class that Eric has to offer, you know, like, I just want to learn from Eric. So I took every class and like, at the end of the night, we're doing striking. And he's watching me get mauled. And I'm just like, like, I'm just happy to be here. But I'm like, I go off the mat real fast to get some water and he goes, what who are you? And why? Or have you been in every class today? And I go, Hi, Eric. I'm Lindsay. I'm from Florida. And he's like, why are you here? And I was like, Why does literally came just to train with you? And he's like, but where are you staying? And I'm like, in the rental car, in your parking lot if that's okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on, and is like, let me go. Let me go get something here real fast. And he said he goes and grabs one of the fighters off of the mat. And he goes, Eddie, Lindsey, Lindsey, this is any any major how house and Ernie is like, dude, like I live with my mom. Oh, hold on. Let me go caller ID so she goes any hoses mom is she's like, how old are the girl? Like traditional Mexican mom, you know? And aren't is like, how old? Are you? I only I'm 27. She's 27. mom's like, Oh, okay. Yeah, she could she could say like, I guess she was just like, worried about me being like some young girl. But we showed up at her house. And she had like a five course like, like, traditional Mexican meal prepared for me. And it was just like, amazing, like, and then since then, like, they've been family, like I just randomly wind up in California and go train at CSW or like, hit up the homies and see if they want to come to my shows and play. Yeah, we're still like, I still talk to these people that I randomly showed up to California. And like, they still fuck with me.

Unknown Speaker 33:15
So much. Okay, so you, I can expect you to come out to California and we can hang out and train sometime in the near future.

Unknown Speaker 33:23
Yes. Awesome. I'm down. All right.

Unknown Speaker 33:27
Let's get to the good stuff. You know. So you're still on the independent circuit right now. You're still training jujitsu, and you're crazy as ever, and looking for adventure and just ready to train and compete wherever you can. Basically, I love it. I love it. Okay, so the first question I always ask when we get to the personal question is how do you identify sexually? And then also, what is your current relationship status?

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I'm by and I am. I'm single. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 34:00
Okay, so Well, I want to know, um, do you prefer to date males or females? Or does it just depend on personality? Like, how does that work? And then also, you know, I'm curious, you know, when did you realize you're bisexual? And when did you come out? Because sometimes those are two different things, right?

Unknown Speaker 34:20
Yeah, for sure. Um, I mean, I just like personalities really like when it comes down to it. I don't really have a preference. Mostly like I've dated guys. Just because like I feel like girls have a hard time keeping up and then like, I don't know, I am a lot so I do I do recognize but I like hide it like I mean, I've come out to my friends and stuff like when I was younger, but like, more recently coming up like to like the public, you know, like, probably within like, an hour. I want to say, like, within like the last year, I've put out like publicly

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recent. Yeah. Okay. So it's pretty

Unknown Speaker 35:07
recent. But like, I've, in my private life, like I've been out for, like, probably like the past like, I'd say like seven, eight years, probably since like, right before I started doing pro wrestling. And then like, I probably realized that I was bi, I would say, like, when I was like 14 or 15, I just like wasn't ever really like comfortable enough with like my family, to really like, be, you know, comfortable to tell them you know, like, and that's just really what it boils down to is like, my family that it really made me feel comfortable enough to come out to them. And I still haven't come out to

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dad, if you're listening, surprise. Yeah. So, you know, you girls or guys, what attracts you to a partner? Personality wise, you said personalities are big. So like, what kind of characteristics do you like?

Unknown Speaker 36:12
Um, basically, I just like people that want to do shit that want to have fun. Like, I know, that sounds really vague. But I feel like, if you're going to be with me, you have to be able to be spontaneous, because I am a very spontaneous person. And if I want to go fishing, when I wake up, then I'm gonna go fishing when I wake up, you know, like, I just, I don't really ask for a whole lot. I'm kind of mellow these days. But like, I do like to do shit. You know? Like, I don't I don't want to just like, binge watch TV all time. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 36:49
yeah. I mean, you are a very active woman, you obviously the fishing, but the wrestling. So me personally, it's like if I train all day, sometimes I do just want to come home and just lay so I do catch myself just like binging on shows or whatnot.

Unknown Speaker 37:06
So that is okay. For me. Everything in moderation. Yeah. Okay. I am not gonna sit here and act like I don't binge watch, because I do. And that would be very hypocritical of me. But that's like, after I've done all the fun shifts that I want to do for the day, you know, like, I have to have, like, I have to feel like I've done shit during the day for me to get that sweet reward of mind numbing television, you know? Yeah, like I have to feel like I have to feel like I've done something to deserve it. You know?

Unknown Speaker 37:41
Yeah, that's kind of how I used to feel about smoking weed. I don't feel that way any anymore. I used to be like, Okay, I'm gonna get my whole like to do list I'm gonna train I'm gonna do all my errands and then I'm gonna come home as she pumps her pen. And then I would be like, Okay, I'm the reward at the end of the day was like smoking weed. And that was like, okay, like, Oh, this is great. Now I've you know, I'm more of like a functional stoner you know? But yeah, that's how I used to feel about that.

Unknown Speaker 38:12
I always tell people I'm smoking this for you not for me.

Unknown Speaker 38:18
So you smoke weed Do you drink

Unknown Speaker 38:21
I drink I like the Tito's. But I've been slowing down on the Tito's. It was like I was enjoying the Cheetos a little bit too much. Too much. But yeah, now I only drink at work.

Unknown Speaker 38:37
We talked earlier not only at work while you're tattooing.

Unknown Speaker 38:47
We talked a little bit about marijuana before the podcast. My question to you is could you date someone who didn't smoke?

Unknown Speaker 38:55
Hell yeah. I would love to date somebody that didn't smoke. That will be amazing. Yeah, because then I wouldn't have to worry about like, I would know how much weed I have left. I wouldn't come home and then all of a sudden I don't have any weeds. Now I have to go back to the weed store when I was out already and I just got it on the way home for sure. So what more it's more about me being lazy.

Unknown Speaker 39:29
Not wanting to share your weed I guess.

Unknown Speaker 39:32
I have no problem sharing weed is the fact that a lot of people smoke it and then not remember to tell you that they smoked yeah being out of previous experiences or anything.

Unknown Speaker 39:46
I'm the kind of smoker that I'm like, Okay, I've got like a third left. I'm like time to call somebody you know, like, I don't want any downtime, you know? No dry No.

Unknown Speaker 39:57
No drought. Yeah. Oh,

Unknown Speaker 40:01
okay, so if you would date someone who doesn't smoke what then what is like a turn off?

Unknown Speaker 40:07
Other drugs? Ah, yes. Yeah. I

Unknown Speaker 40:13
can be messing around over here you know?

Unknown Speaker 40:17
No method around. Even though my last name is Snow not trying to hit the slopes anytime soon. But that and like, I don't like people that like, like drinking every once in a while is cool but like drinking every day isn't like I said everything in moderation you know? People like not knowing when to turn it off is like a big turn off people that don't like comedy movies. That's like real weird to me. I've run into that. That's like fucking weird. You don't like to laugh?

Unknown Speaker 41:03
I never heard of anybody in like womb. I don't like to laugh like what the fuck?

Unknown Speaker 41:07
Like I can. I can get like scary movies not liking scary movies. But this dude was like, Nah, I don't like comedies. What is wrong with you? Who heard?

Unknown Speaker 41:17
Yeah, exactly. One of the things to do is go to live stand up comedy. That's like the best. You know, we're here in LA The Comedy Store. Laugh Factory. It's the best.

Unknown Speaker 41:30
Yeah, I am so jealous that you have that like right at your fingertips because I love stand up comedy. I love going to live shows in general like seeing live entertainment. Oh my gosh. Like I love going to shows like, I love hardcore shows. So like, people that don't like going and seeing live music. We're being out.

Unknown Speaker 41:52
No. That's like, trust me. That's what I grew up with. I don't know about you. Like I grew up with like in the punk rock community. My dad listened to Metallica and Aerosmith. So that's like kind of what I grew up with. And then I got into my own scene, and now it's I'm so fucking busy with training and whatnot. But they're like, Oh, what do you like to do in your free time? I'm like, go to shows go to concerts like, especially since the pandemic fucking killed everything. Now I'm like, Yeah, I just gotta get it in when I can. You know?

Unknown Speaker 42:20
Right? I feel you on that. I'm the same exact way. Whenever my mom was pregnant with me, I went to my first concert with a little river band. But, yeah, I'm a huge fan of like, live entertainment live music. I'm doing even like going to see the Rocky Horror Picture Show. So live like, I love that shit. Like, yes. Yeah, I'm about all that shit.

Unknown Speaker 42:52
All right. Okay, so what about you? I gotta ask because, I don't know, I saw a picture of you. And I thought you were like, my size. I was like, Oh, yeah. And then I was doing my research on you. I'm like, This chick is five to have, like, your small but mighty, you know? Like, okay, so does that mean that you like, you know, I mean, everybody's bigger than you. I feel like Right? But like, as far as physical characteristics, like, what do you like in a partner?

Unknown Speaker 43:22
Um, I just like basically like my kids to look like they eat steroids. I love the honesty. I love. I mean, I'm like, I'm small but big. And like, I feel like every time people meet me in real life, they're like, damn, I just thought you were gonna be bigger and I'm like, fuck. Yeah, I'm five foot two, but I'm like five foot two shit, Brickhouse god. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. Thank you. But, ya know, I like dudes that are bigger than me that can pick me up. And like, I mean, I'll probably be able to pick them up. So.

Unknown Speaker 44:07
Okay, okay. So I'm assuming that you're no stranger to dating in the industry because a guy who looks like he eats a lot of steroids and probably a pro wrestler of some sort or combat sports athlete.

Unknown Speaker 44:20
Yeah, I've I have dated two people and the industry and like, I one of them play. I think that it was perfect. You know, like, I don't think that honestly, like, I don't think that it could have been a better match for me. Just because of like, him understanding the industry. him understanding what it's like to be booked on bigger shows and stuff because he was pretty it was pretty well known, things just didn't work out, and it sucks, but he's still a good dude. So that's all that I have to say about that.

Unknown Speaker 45:11
Okay, so is that something that you kind of look for like, is it? Is it important to you to date another wrestler?

Unknown Speaker 45:18
No, I don't really want to date another wrestler. It's kind of weird. Now to date another wrestler like, I know that like, I just like said that it was perfect, like five seconds ago. And now that I am doing deathmatches, and stuff like that, I feel like it's a little bit more difficult for me to date another wrestler, because now the guys that like, we're into me now. Know how crazy I am. All the time. So I don't think I probably could date another dude.

Unknown Speaker 45:57
Little bit of blood get in fucking 30 WOFF placees

Unknown Speaker 46:01
cheese. Yeah. big shocker. wrestlers are pussies. Just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. God. I'm gonna be like, canceled now.

Unknown Speaker 46:16
It's so badass that you're willing, literally willing to bleed for what you love. You know, and I don't really know the ins and outs and I kind of like don't even want to ask, you know, because like, I'm like on the side where I'm like, where did that blood come from?

Unknown Speaker 46:33
But I've I'm like a really rare case where I don't gig. I'm always getting hard. Wait. So like gigging is where you cut yourself. Hardway is when you get hit with an object to make yourself believe.

Unknown Speaker 46:46
Okay, and so you don't gig. Yeah, I

Unknown Speaker 46:50
don't gig I don't cut myself. I get hit with shit to make nice. Wow.

Unknown Speaker 46:53
Okay. But But what about CTE and concussions and your brain? My Girl?

Unknown Speaker 47:01
Girl, it's already like if I like If only you were like, If only I had like dashboard cam on my cities. And, like all of the shit that I've already been through. Like you'd be like, Oh, that's mild. Oh, that's mild. Yeah, like, there's a reason why my sister is a rocket scientist. And why I do pro wrestling. Your dad is like what? Like, just yeah, do complete opposite Thanksgivings. real

Unknown Speaker 47:41
weird. Did she look all square with like, no tattoos and just like glasses.

Unknown Speaker 47:48
Kinda. She has a couple tattoos. But yeah, I definitely like, we're opposites for sure. Like, she's like, Hollister. And I'm like, hot topics. Like, you know, like when they function it up in the mall, and they put the stores together that shouldn't go together that way. So that's my Thanksgiving.

Unknown Speaker 48:13
Would you say that you had like a pretty tight knit family. And the reason I ask is because I'm always interested about, like, how you learned about sex and how you learned about dating. And sometimes, you know, when we have good parents, it's like, oh, they tell you about it and whatnot, and you kind of learn the right way. Or, you know, my situation. It's like, if you have kind of absentee parents, you're out there on them streets, you know, learning for yourself. So kind of just like, what what was your experience like?

Unknown Speaker 48:41
Um, so my parents are awesome. Do you know like, I don't ever want anybody to think that I didn't have awesome parents. We just didn't see eye to eye. You know, I was like, I, I was a victim of sexual abuse when I was really young. And I never told my parents about it because like, my parents are like, avoiders when it comes to like dealing with real life trauma. And I mean, like, fucked up, shit happens, you need to be able to talk to people about it, and I just didn't really have that outlet. And my big sister she like, was pretty square. So I couldn't really talk to her about shit. So like, my family, like they're all awesome in their own like ways but as far as like, being being a solid like system of protection and like being able to like talk to you about real world shit. They weren't really like the best at that, like they tried, but I was going through a bunch of shit that they didn't know how to do. With and yeah, like I didn't I learned about sex through like, a lot of fucked up shit happening to me as like, as a young person. So like, it kind of sucks because like I do wish that I did have that kind of like support system growing up but like they just were doing the best that they could with what they and like, now talking about things is a lot more prevalent and like it's a lot. It's a lot. It's made more aware for the parent to talk to the children about that shit. You know, when I grew up, you know, when we were growing up, like there was like, there was like, my family avoided bad shit that happened. Oh, yeah, we just didn't talk about it. You know? It was just like, okay, yeah, sure you're fucked up looking. We're just not gonna talk about that. All right on to the next thing.

Unknown Speaker 51:02
For sure. And the world is crazy right now and a lot of ways, but that's one thing that's beautiful. It's like, it's, it's, you know, more common, you know, to talk about things, talk to your kids, you know, and like, my little quote is for the show with like, shame dies, when stories are told in safe places. It's just kind of like opening the dialogue, because we all have been through a lot of the same fucking shit. But we're so embarrassed or we're like, oh, it's taboo to talk about sex, or whatever it is. But most of the time, if you just fucking say your story, two 310 20 People are gonna go I went through the same exact shit. And that's the kind of stuff that heals you and doesn't make you feel like a fucking outcast or a weirdo. Right?

Unknown Speaker 51:44
Yeah, that was honestly, that was the whole reason why I wanted to come in and do your podcast was because of that. And your, your stance on mental and like everything, dude, like, I don't know, I just saw this as a good, a good way to like, kind of like, talk about things and say, Please, obviously, I don't know, I just did you and I did what you stayed on for. A lot of people have been telling me about you for a while. So I just thought that it was you know, it was a good a good chance to get on here and kinda like, you know, make myself more human than a lot of people will get to see.

Unknown Speaker 52:24
And that's, that's, that's beautiful. Because that's actually, you know, two however long, however many years it's been, you know, a couple years ago. So many people, especially someone like you or me, we get like dehumanized because we're in the spotlight, or in a ring or in a cage or whatever. And it's like, we are literally just like these people that are trolling us and talking shit or whatnot. So yeah, I'm, I want to humanize my guests, you want to go back to the point where you said, you know, you went through some hard things when you were young, and you didn't talk about it, but like, how did you get through that? You know, we're in our 30s. Now, did you talk to a therapist? Did you know like, what did you do to heal.

Unknown Speaker 53:07
Um, so it took me a really, really long time to be okay with going into therapy. Because when I was younger, like my parents knew I was fucked up, because I wasn't like talking to them. And I was like, acting out, you know, and they sent me to a therapist, but the therapist that they sent me to was just like, oh, you can't tattoo yourself, you can't do all of these things that you're doing to yourself, you're wrong, you know, not actually asking me why I was doing nice things, just telling me like, Oh, your parents don't want you to have tattoos. Your parents don't want you to pierce your face, you know. And I'm like, walking around, like with lip rings and nose rings, and like tattooing myself and shit. And, you know, then like, it took me a really long time to realize, like, hey, like, I really should talk about my issues. Because if I don't talk about my issues, I'm gonna keep having bad relationships. And I was having bad relationships, because I wasn't dealing with the harm that had been done to me. And I was trying to protect myself. And I was just, like, constantly, like, feeling like I was being attacked. And like, that wasn't ever the case. It was just like, that was my safety mechanisms, I guess, coming into play and like that. It took me until like, a few years ago to actually go and get help. And then I took therapy seriously for the first time then and then my boyfriend was murdered in September, and that really fucked me up, like really fucked me up really, really bad. And I actually had to go back to therapy, and so dealing With his, his death, and dealing with like, my own issues, you know, there was really like no other option for me if I wanted to get better if I wanted to come back to pro wrestling, then to deal with, you know, the emotions that I was feeling. And I had to be, I had to be present for that. And I wasn't able to, you know, drink my problems away anymore. And I had to face my problems and, you know, deal with deal with my actual feelings. And that's probably like, the hardest thing that I've literally ever had to do was be present. And actually, like, deal with that with myself darkness.

Unknown Speaker 55:47
I'm, I'm so proud of you, girl. I don't know you like that. But let me just tell you as someone who, you know, we spoke briefly, you know, I got clean and sober three and a half years ago, and not marijuana, you know, but, you know, it's so important. For you sober. And, you know, when you get sober like that, it's like, you have to deal with the emotional shit that you were just drinking away. And, you know, I was like, Oh, it's so hard to get sober. Yeah, getting sober is hard. But the hardest thing is exactly what you said, it's dealing with everything that comes afterwards. And you know, like, you just want to numb it, you just want to run you just want to not talk about it. So I commend you so fucking much, you know, and this is exactly why I love having people like you on the show, because we are all human. And we all have to go through these fucked up things. And I'm so sorry to hear about your your boyfriend, you know, that's, that's so fresh. I can't even believe that, you know, I'm grateful that you're doing the show, because I would probably be in a corner crying somewhere, you know, and it's a testament to show how fucking strong you are not just physically but internally.

Unknown Speaker 56:57
Thank you, thank you so much for all the kind words, it means a lot to actually like, someone, you know, say that because So Thomas Thomas was the same. But anytime I was like, you know, down or about anything, because like, he took care of me when I had knee surgery, and I would get down about it. And I'd be like, you know, I should be so much further ahead. And he was like, telling me like, hey, look, look at where you're at. You just had knee surgery, how would you feel if somebody else was telling you, you know, they were going through the same things that you're going through. And like, they had just had all the same shit that, you know, you had just had happened to you? How would you feel about them talking to you? Would you have mercy on them to you know, like, what do you feel? Like, they were doing more like, and I was like, You know what, you're right. Like, I am doing more than I should be doing? I am, you know, so like, he would always like kind of like, help, you know, like, cut me up a little bit. And so like, I'm, I'm super thankful that I did get all that time that I did get with him because like, he did teach me a lot. And you know, like, it is it is very fucking difficult to, to be there and to be present. But yeah, you really like you owe it to yourself to be present to like, get yourself out of, you know, whatever you're going through. Because you know, you still are here. You still have shit to do.

Unknown Speaker 58:33
Yeah, yeah, I know. It sounds like Thomas was very smart. It sounds like he was basically telling you to be as gentle with yourself as you would someone else. And I know that's a problem that I personally have. We are our own biggest fucking critics. It's like, how can we can have so much love for another person? And then when it comes to us, no, but you still act like Ah, damn, why do I talk to myself?

Unknown Speaker 58:57
Right, yeah, you're spot on. That was like exactly what he was saying. Exactly.

Unknown Speaker 59:02
I love that. So what a sensitive subject so forgive me, I'm, you know, I'm going to try and work things correctly. But you know, it's so fresh. That's a handful of months like, you know, someone out there could be listening who is dealing with, you know, losing someone and what would you recommend? Like how, obviously therapy you know, but like, what has been cathartic to you what has helped you?

Unknown Speaker 59:26
Um, man, so, therapy has been the best help with me. Obviously, if you want to drink and you want to escape, but that's the worst thing that you can do in these type of situations. Yeah, just fucking don't drink like, you're just gonna set yourself up for failure if you do that. I would say just like, for For me, what has helped is like the friends that he really loved the ones that, you know, actually gave a buck. Those people, it has been an immense help to talk to those people and to like, just to be able to hear their stories about him. And like, how like he had like these different things that he would say. And yeah, I have been hearing from people like all over the world because he was like a world traveler as well. He taught to, like all over the world, and getting to hear stories from people that met him in different countries has been pretty cool. Like, just trying to keep his memory alive has really kind of helped me. And like, trying to get in touch with people that that loved him as much as he loved them. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:01:01
yeah. I think yeah, you're right, like therapy, obviously, but a support system of some sort, whether that's his friends, or your mutual friends or even your family, right, you know, whoever is there for you like to lean on them right now is like the best time right? For sure. Awesome. So, like, sensitive, but it seems like you would not be? Or maybe you are, I don't know, but like, when is the adequate amount of time to wait before you look for a new mate? You know, I can't imagine you wanting to even, you know, talk to someone right now. You're probably still healing, right?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:40
Yeah, I don't think I'm really ready to date anybody, just because like, that's a massive hole that he left me and like, in my life, and I would hate to like, have to try to like date somebody because like right now, like, I would just be like, putting them up next to him. And I don't think that that's a very fair thing to do to somebody, especially when they're trying to give you you know, their time and spend time with you. But yeah, I don't I don't really know when I will be able to date but I'm just kind of focusing on myself right now. And trying to like, make myself be like, who I think that I should be? Because that's, you know, that's what I told him that I was going to do. And I'm not a liar.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:34
Yeah, focus on you. This is the perfect time. I love that. So let's go get into some of the younger years, because if you're anything like me, you had some wild and crazy times. A question I love to ask is, how has dating changed for you? Your 20s versus your 30s? Right?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:53
Yeah, well, my third or my 20s I spent married for I'm, I went to a party and I met this guy. That was like doing push ups in the corner. I was like, Okay, where are those random party? Everybody's on mushrooms. And this guy's over here doing push ups on the corner. Intrigued? St. Last. So then we got married a week later.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:23
From mushrooms to Wedding Bells.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:26
It was Halloween. So like, what else am I gonna do?

Unknown Speaker 1:03:31
Dressed up as and what were you dressed up as?

Unknown Speaker 1:03:33
So funny story, right? We drove home. It was Halloween. And we actually drove to Savannah, Georgia. Because if you're not a Georgia resident, you don't have to wait three days to get married. So you can get married the same day that you get your license to get married. Yeah, so check it out. We go. We get married, and we're leaving the courthouse. And this dude, like, yells at us from across the street and I turn and he sees it at the tattoo shop and I'm like, Damn, that dude's got some really good customer service. He just used like two, I believe tattooed people walking down the street and he just yelled at them and like, Yes, I will turn around. Then I look. And it's my friend David, who like had done this horse on the inside of my arm. Yeah, like three months prior. And he's like, What the fuck are you doing in Savannah? And I'm like, Oh, I just married this guy.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:34
And he's like, Well, that's cool. And I was like, yeah, do you want to talk to our names on each other? And is like, alright, so I will do it. Yeah, same needle. And he's like, what? And I'm like we already butchered a lot of condom. It's cool

Unknown Speaker 1:04:51
you know, and everything and then like we leave and we drove from Savannah to Like because we both tattooed for the same company, but like nobody knew that we were dating. And so then we showed up to the company party for Halloween. And like, we're just some regular clothes and everybody's like, Oh, what are you guys? And like, Oh, we're married

Unknown Speaker 1:05:18
and then everybody thought it was a joke, but it was that marriage last seven years.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:27
Whoa, okay. I was, I was thinking it was gonna be one of those quick ones, but that's a good, that's a good amount of time.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:34
Yeah, dude. So that's what I was saying. Like, I spent my 20s married. So like, I'm not married now. And, like, I don't know, dude, I'm just like a serial monogamist. Like, I stopped, like, well, I got divorced, then I dated the wrestler. And then we stopped seeing each other and then I started dating Thomas.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:56
Yeah. And you are serial monogamous. Hmm.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:59
Yeah. Trying to lock it down, I guess. I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:04
That's all right. You know what you like, you know, like, there's like I personally, I haven't had a lot of long term like healthy relationships. This is actually my first one we've been dating for over three years now. And what you get when you have a long term healthy relationship is it's so crazy. You know, it's like that stability and that support system. Like literally, I feel like I can do anything because I have someone who's making me feel like the most beautiful, the smartest, the most capable, you know, and like, that's what you get when you really find someone you know, and it's a beautiful thing. And like, I really wish it for everybody. I know. There's a lot of players out there girls and guys, like nah, I don't want that. But I'm like, it really is beautiful. If you could find you know, what everyone needs their whole face to like, I'm all for you gotta have your whole face before you settle down. Did you? Do you feel like you had your whole face or?

Unknown Speaker 1:06:59
I feel like I have my whole face before I got married. Okay, that's perfect did and then I got married. And then I was like, I went from like, 100 to like zero.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:12
From crazy, and

Unknown Speaker 1:07:15
that's probably why I married him like a week after I met him. I was like, Alright, done. Yeah, he's doing precepts in the corner. I'm set. Like all I want some jack dude. Like.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:27
I love that. So how do you normally? I mean, I know you met him at the party. Do you do online dating now? Or is that

Unknown Speaker 1:07:35
I've never had online dating. That was actually. So that was actually like part of like the demise of my marriage. Oh, yeah. Crazy story. But fuck it. Why not? We've got time. Yeah. All right. So I was working late one night. And like, I worked in Ybor, which is like a sub sect of Tampa, basically. But it's like the way the drinking district basically like party districts. So I tattooed there. And I was working late one night and the shop closed at midnight. And my husband was like, Oh, I'm gonna go down to the reservoir bar. And I was like, Alright, have fun. I'm gonna go home. And he's like, Oh, you're not gonna come out? And I was like, Fuck, no, I'm not going out. I'm tired. I worked on it. I'm gonna go home. So I go home. And he's all butthurt because he wanted to go out and then he comes home and puts his fucking phone down. And then like, the alerts stop, start popping up. And I'm like, What the fuck? And I looked because he put it down on the table beside me like an idiot. And I was like, I have never seen that before. Like, what fucking app? Is that shit? Yeah. And it was tender. And I was like, what? Like, why did you download Tinder while you're out? And he was like, Oh, I just got it for work. I just got it for work. And I was like, What the fuck? Are you gonna do tattooing with your dick? And I'm like, No, it's like this last day. Like, I just say that I want to be friends. And so like, then I was like, Ah, I'm over. It is done. Yeah. And that was it.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:23
Well, I mean, hopefully you caught him before he could actually do some shady shit. And, you know, because obviously sleeping around and diseases and all that ain't no good.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:34
Oh, damn. Yeah. I'm not about that way. Yeah, that's probably why I'm a serial monogamist

Unknown Speaker 1:09:40
Yeah. Well, I'm glad. I'm sorry to hear that. But at least you caught him. It could get anywhere a funny

Unknown Speaker 1:09:47

Unknown Speaker 1:09:48
Yeah, that's more like a horror story. That's a horror story. Actually, speaking of horror stories, do you like what is the worst date you've ever been on? Maybe like a blind date or some you know? Yeah, well, you ever said Get up or something.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:02
Oh man, the worst day that ever went on was prom. Oh, really? It was horrible. Okay, so this guy, he, like, I didn't even want to go to prom. But my friends were all trying to go and then they're like, oh, this dude doesn't have a day. Would you go with them? And I'm like, okay, so this guy asked me to prom. doesn't find me a ticket. But so like we Oh, I'm sorry. I quit and guaranteed myself my bed. Rewind. We go to dinner, and he didn't bring enough money for me. So I had to pay for my dinner. Oh, I was like, why did you even buy? Why did you even ask me to go to prom? If you're not gonna like he didn't get me the fucking clown. Yeah, so I got him a flower gimmick thing and he didn't get me one. So I was like, fuck you. Like you're, I'm wearing this shit. And so then we get to the thing and he doesn't buy me a ticket to prom. So I have to ask the principal if I can bring her cash on Monday, so I can go to fucking prom. Like this is horrible.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:07
That's that is bad. All right.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:11
It was it was definitely like the shits like I was like, I can't I can't believe this is my from like, Why did I even agree to go to this?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:19
Fun fact, Ashley didn't get to go to her prom because she was in juvie. So at least you probably still had a better time than I did. That's sad. Oh my god. Okay, so female fighters and I'm sure female wrestlers. We get a lot of weird creepy DMS. So I love asking what is the creepiest DM or like one of the creepiest DMS that you've ever got? Like what's the weirdest or what's like what's also something very common that you get as a female pro wrestler.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:54
People always want to see my feet. It like offered it by my socks, which is like real weird. But then I had this guy. And he was like, yeah, if you respond to this message, I will fill my car with cement or fish. And so I just replied back submit fish. And then he was like, what does that mean? I was like, I don't know. Figure it out and get back to me.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:22
So Oh, there. I've had another wrestler on and I forget who it was, oh, no, it wasn't a wrestler. It was a fighter. And she does pro wrestling as well. But she told me about something called sessions, customs custom or custom matches, right? So do you ever do that?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:42
I've done customs before. But like I don't do like the weird shit. I just have like actual, like actual wrestling matches. But there are like some very like, I am like, Guys messaged me and asked me if I'll kick them in the balls. And like then there's like these companies that messaged me and asked me if I'll be on their roster of girls that kicked dudes in the balls. And I'm just like, as much fun as that does now. I feel like it would really tarnish my brand. So

Unknown Speaker 1:13:17
for sure. I feel like it's a fine line. Right? And then I feel like if you're trying to get into the bigger leagues, like I feel like because zeta did tell me that the WWE and I'm sure you know too, like they're pretty like when you're signed with them like they have you by the balls or the ovaries or whatever. And so it's like, you're probably gonna like walk like this fine line of like, you know, your your image is a badass, you know, like your two tattooed badass, but you probably can't do certain things or say certain things right?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:46
Yeah, I have to like, I have to watch what I post and watch what I say. But that's like every wrestler should protect their brand. I've been posting like a little bit more of like, my personal life lately. Just because like I want people to know like, why haven't been around as much. But yeah, as far as like, you do have a certain image to uphold, and like, I obviously can't be putting up like on the internet like I also like don't post nudes just like because my niece and my nephew are Googling age and so like I don't want to have to explain my auntie lenses to these things up on the internet.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:29
Not a conversation you want to have

Unknown Speaker 1:14:31
not with a rocket scientist. Oh my god, you're gonna win every fucking time. I might be able to beat her in a fight like God dammit.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:42
So, you know, obviously we've already established that we're a little crazy. What's the craziest or most romantic thing that you've ever done for love?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:52
Um, I would say drive to Savannah from Tampa to get married. Yeah, that is probably the that's probably the most romantic thing I've done for love for sure. I've done some crazy shit though. I've I've really done some crazy shit. I'm just like, oh, how much do I want the public to know?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:18
The PG 13 Verse version?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:21
A Yeah, right. Man trying to think. Well, I did. I did like plan like, oh, oh, we can for like my my boyfriend that just passed. I had him come from Jacksonville to Tampa and I have like a whole, like, weekend planned for us. So like, it was kind of a surprise for him. And I took him to like my favorite Thai place. And then I just wanted him to see like the restaurant. And then I like took our food and we went and had like a picnic by this lake. That's pretty cute. But now I gotta stop because people are gonna be like

Unknown Speaker 1:16:07
Okay, so I always ask fighters and all my guests. Do you abstain from having sex before competition? Now I don't know if that's the same because you know, you kind of know your matches, you know how they're gonna go down. But you know, do you have any kind of like sexual rituals? Or do you abstain at all?

Unknown Speaker 1:16:26
Um, like, as far as when I was with Thomas, I would definitely I would definitely get it in before Russell just because I was like, Well, if you helped me lose a couple extra pounds. It couldn't hurt how I look at my gear.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:42
Do you guys have to weigh in for wrestling?

Unknown Speaker 1:16:45
No, we don't. We don't weigh in. But we are like, up in a ring where people are looking up at you. So it's like, extra couple of pounds really? Like can make you look a lot bigger. Like that's why people think I'm gigantic. Okay, oh, I just I just stand on the platform, but I'm strong.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:09
So what is something that you've learned sexually that you wish or not even learned? But like what would you tell yourself? You know, if you could talk to yourself in your 20s you know, now that you know what you know, you know, any advice about sex or love or romance?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:26
Even if he's hot, don't marry him. It's really hard to get divorced. Yeah, that's what I hear. Especially when somebody is like super in love with you. And then they don't want to get divorced.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:41
Why did he not want to sign the papers?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:45
Okay, so I was actually married for seven years, but I was with him for four and tried to get divorced for three. Okay, got it.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:58
Have you ever been asked to do something like too freaky in bed? Something that where you're you'll never forget. You're like, Oh my god. One time this guy asked me to do this and you're like, Fuck no.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:08
I'm doing okay, so yeah, I have been asked for really weird shit. But then it's like, I don't know if it was like, Oh, I was just playing like, that was just a joke. Or if like the dudes really into getting shit on you know, but

Unknown Speaker 1:18:22
yeah, because he asked for it. And then you said no. And he was like, Oh, I was joking. Like,

Unknown Speaker 1:18:30
I don't think that anybody would really be answered that but then like I people asked me if they could buy my shit. And I'm like, That's really funny. Why do I even do that?

Unknown Speaker 1:18:44
You know, like, I always say on the show like we don't yuck anybody's yum. But I'm gonna go ahead and yuck that one. I'm gonna yuck it all day. Oh, yeah, like that's gross.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:54
Sorry. Yeah, it's just I can't know doo doo

Unknown Speaker 1:18:57
doo doo I cannot do to do to campaign campaign. It was the craziest place you've ever had sex? You'd I don't know if you're an exhibitionist. But do you have anywhere? Crazy that you've ever hooked up?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:13
Um, yeah, I mean, work. Yeah, yeah, every tattoo artist I know has done that. I'm like, Is that crazy? Like? Yeah, I mean, work or like a bar. Like, when I was way younger?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:32
Yeah. Yeah. bathroom of a bar. Dirty. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:38
Well, like okay, it was like VIP and like, there was nobody else in there. And I was like, yes, the great idea. And then like, on my way out, I was just like, oh, I'll just take this bottle of grammar. Yeah, because it was right there. And then like, I started like, worrying shots in people's mouths as I'm walking down the store as a white on the tears. Like, then I get a tap on my shoulder and then guys like where do you get It was like it was a gift. No, it was. Give it back to me. I'm gonna call the cops and I was like, call the cop. And he's like, because they were right across the street and then I was standing in the day. Oh my god, okay. Wild Times Well now it's like all of that legitimately happened within like five minutes. Like it was like sex and then handcuffs. Like, but not like Yeah, yeah, this

Unknown Speaker 1:20:29
wild What is your biggest pet peeve in the bedroom? It could be anything as small as like bad breath or, you know, a guy asking you to poop on him.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:41
Whatever. Bad breath and then like, just like thrusting with like, No forget like, I don't know if you've ever like get filled with a do this just like going for the law. They they're just like, This just is not comfortable. This is not fun for me. Right now. Like you got to work up to that.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:04
There's always like, there's always the jackhammer guy, you know? And I'm like, Okay, we're like a car. You gotta like rev us up, you know, like, lubricate things, get things going. And then you know, a good jackhammer and is on the table, you know, okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:21
Finish. finishing move. Yeah, I'm not trying to get hit with your finish and the falsies.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:30
I love it. So we are obviously Alpha females is the bedroom somewhere that you like to be dominant or is somewhere where you can actually be a little bit more submissive.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:41
I guess it depends on the situation. Because I like a little bit of both. I like live live dangerously. But yeah, I feel like I feel like it could be fun. Either way. It just depends on the situation, you know? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:01
Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay, well, it's time for the lightning six round.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:11
Which is a super fun way to end the sex segment. It's basically rapid fire. I'm gonna give you a one word or one phrase and you just answer yes or no, unless you would like to stop and tell us a story. Sometimes the fans get a little bit mad at me because I'll just keep going. And they're like, Oh, you can tell that he or she wanted to elaborate. So if you want to elaborate you can but for the most part, just yes or no? Okay. All right. I'm ready. All right. Here we go. Lightning six round with Lindsey snow. Do you dirty talk in bed? Yes. Spank are like to be spanked. Both biting. Yes, choking. Yes. threesomes Yes. Do you watch porn? Yes, foot fetish.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:59
I mean, I have real cute feet.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:04
bodily fluid fetish.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:06
I am trying to get peed on

Unknown Speaker 1:23:08
got it got it. Bondage like ropes, blindfolds or handcuffs.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:15
It doesn't bother me.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:17

Unknown Speaker 1:23:20
Depends on who's the

Unknown Speaker 1:23:24
we were okay, but stuff on you or a partner? Yes. Do you sex toys? Yes. Have you ever been to a sex club or a swingers party?

Unknown Speaker 1:23:38
No, but I do tattoo a lot of swingers and there I live vicariously through okay?

Unknown Speaker 1:23:45
I always feel like I'm like when I get older. I'm gonna go because I'm probably gonna get you know, bored with something and I'm going to spice it up. I feel like that's how I'm going to spice it up. Are you a lingerie lover? Yes. Body hair yay or nay? No matter what. Okay, and then have you ever been caught having sex or masturbating? Yes. All right. You did a great job. It was all Yes. Everyone someone listings like this girl gets down yes, round. Yes. Round. Okay, I love this show with a game of fuck marry kill and some fan questions. Do you would you like to play fuck marry kill

Unknown Speaker 1:24:37
one very one kill one go. I think we're done. We're done. We're done. Okay, so my homies Dan and Pat Kenny, the guy that actually mentioned before who's in a band? These two brothers are actually big wrestling fans so they were super stoked to give you these Fuck, Marry kill. You get to choose from Stone Cold Steve Austin Mick Foley and Shawn Michaels and apparently these guys are all bloody wrestlers like

Unknown Speaker 1:25:08
Damn it. But I want to fuck and marry stone

Unknown Speaker 1:25:21
day Yeah, okay, so stone cold, marry,

Unknown Speaker 1:25:27
I guess I could marry him and focus on my goals and I'd have to kill Mick Foley.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:31
Okay, all right,

Unknown Speaker 1:25:32
that'll work. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:35
So right now we're gonna

Unknown Speaker 1:25:37
see MC.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:39
We're gonna switch over to the UFC fight pass platform, and that's where everyone can hear their actual, like real fan questions. But for the lames who are not going to follow us over there. Just kidding, guys, where can they catch you on all social media handles? Any matches that you have coming up? And also want you to tell about this really cool cannabis thing that you got going on in March?

Unknown Speaker 1:26:02
Yes. Okay. So um, first let's start off with you can find me on Instagram and on Twitter. I am the Florida ma'am. Th e FL o or ID amam. And yeah, I've got x PW coming up this weekend and Pomona, California. So if you're around Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:26
Say it's Saturday say it's Saturday. It is Saturday. going I'm going Yeah. Put it bleeding.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:37
That just made me so happy. All right. And oh, the Cannabis Cup. Check this out for all of my marijuana friends. All everybody that likes to smoke the weeds. I am going to have Lindsay soon as the American kaiju Cannabis Cup. It will be at Hold on let me get this place. Right.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:06
So awesome. It is called.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:10
Area sorry, it's called knucklehead and it will be in Los Angeles during mania. So stay tuned to find out who will be on my panel and who's uh, who's gonna come through and smoke some weed with me.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:26
And I will have all of your links in the Episode Notes, guys. So if you're driving right now or doing something don't worry, you can always check that out later. And yeah, I'll see you in Pomona this weekend. That's exciting. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:41
Oh yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:28:07
Alright guys, that's it for episode 130 with Lindsey Jane snow. I think I made a new best friend. I really liked this. I always liked the crazies. What can I say girls and guys, thank you so much for tuning in. God, it's been so good to get back in the studio. UFC fight pass is the world's premier combat sports streaming service with over 200 live events, the largest fight library in existence, original shows and more. Sign up for one year and get half off for a limited time at www UFC fight backslash sign up. Honestly, I don't really know who's going to be on next week. I feel like I'm starting to pull away from giving you guys a heads up not because you guys but because my guests sometimes be flaking on me and I really don't like sounding like a liar. So I don't know who's gonna be next week. But I promise it'll be somewhat interesting and fun. And you should tune in no matter what. Reminders please check out our website sex violence with rebel Pick up a shirt hat, something like that to support. If you want to support me by looking at my sexy pictures and videos. That helps out a lot. Subscription website. It's called Fan time, kind of like only fans, but it's called Ashley rebel Please check that out. And lastly, please just share the show because it really does help out or you can rate and review it. And that's all I love you guys. It's been so good to talk to you. And thank you for all the guests suggestions. When I was in Colombia, you guys reached out and told me some people you want to hear from. So I will be doing my due diligence and trying to get your favorite people on the show. I can't make promises though because not everybody wants to talk about sex and movies and buttholes and whatnot. You know I don't know it's okay. Special thank you to audio engineer, DJ Zol at DJ Zol on social media and tomorrow Good studio at tomorrow kids official and you can always find us on Instagram at sex and violence with rebel girl all spelled out and myself at Ashley MMA, and actually I got shadow banned the other day. Not even the podcast page but me personally. I'm like what? So? I guess we're doing something spicy. I don't know. So check it out guys. Hope you guys enjoyed. enjoyed our show. And remember, be kind, be grateful, but don't take shit from anyone. Talk to you next week with a new guest and more tales of sex and violence.

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