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Ep.65 Tito "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz

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Hey guys, welcome back to sex and violence rebels, where we interview top level MMA fighters and other experts in their fields about love, dating, romance and way too taboo subject. I'm your host, Rebel girl,

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Evan Smith.

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Now let's talk about sex and violence. What's happening the

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hot stuff? What's up on my naughty listeners? We're back. And, man, I am so grateful and appreciative to have every guest on, but certain guests along the way, are like little milestones for me. One of those guests was Joey Diaz. I wanted to have him on, you know, from the from the first episode I ever had, I was like, someday, I'm going to interview Joey Diaz and then boom, like, what? 50 something episodes later, you know, we made that happen. And that was a very big, you know, podcast accomplishment for myself. Today is another one of those guests where you just very grateful that they give you the time of day because they're, you know, very well known and they're very busy. And my guest today what who we'll get to is one of those people. So stay tuned for that. But before we talk about our guests, talk to our guests a little update on your host. So this weekend coming up going home to my small town, Ukiah, California, I always say it's a in the middle of nowhere, a little bumfuck nowhere town. If I had to describe it, I would say the Ling Ling Ling that's how I describe my town. But there's not a lot going on up there. I love my family. It's just you know, you don't want to go somewhere where there's one Walmart, one bowling alley, all that kind of jazz. But it's going to be fun. I'm going to see my grandpa who you know, he's not getting any younger. So I need to make time for him. And all you guys out there. I love my grandpa so much. If you don't see your grandparents, go see them because, you know, they they're old. But I'm gonna go up there see my family for a day and a half and I'm actually doing the whole you know, introducing my partner my boyfriend to my family for the first time. We've almost been dating for two years and you know, it's just, it's about that time to introduce them and I just hope that he still loves me after he sees my small town and where I grew up. And then I'm also going to be a bridesmaid and my best friend one of my best friend Jackie Davis her wedding I'm very excited about that. And we're gonna go meet the boyfriend are going to go to just called tamales not tamales, tamales, California, and we're gonna stay in like the woodsy Airbnb probably gonna take some mushrooms Not gonna lie You know, cuz Hey, those are legal in the SATA testing pool. probably have some fun and then come home and when I come home I got a big important doctor's appointment. I keep you guys updated with what's going on with me physically still recovering from spine surgery. I know you're goddamn tired of hearing that. But I'll get give you an update on what's going on in there because I'll be getting some MRIs and x rays and all that good stuff to see what's going on. The healing process is taking a fucking long time not much I can do about it besides keep doing my PT sleep well eat good positive thoughts and all and all that you know acupuncture, do it at all. I'm doing it all guys, but I'm going to give you an update next week because I don't really know what the hell's going on in there either. And then yeah, other than that, I wanted to let you know, I keep telling you ahead of time our guests but I'm very excited each week we get, you know, a new cool guest and I'm just very excited. So next week we have Nick Newell. He is a believe he's signed with Bella tour right now, but I'm not sure. He is just a very interesting guy and he was born. Not sure what the proper definition is if I wrote it down. Basically he was born with one arm, his other arm has a stump on one end it was cut off kind of like below the elbow, but that has not held him back whatsoever. He is just an amazing MMA fighter. They just came out with a new movie about him. So tune in next week to hear the interview with Nick Newell. And then tomorrow if you guys want to check out some UFC fights Last weekend we had Jared cannoneer versus Kelvin Gastelum clay Guido versus Mark Madsen. Some great fights this weekend. We got Edson Barboza versus gosh, you know, I should really test these names but Giga chick easy. Ricky charcoals versus Brad. Hi, Stan. That's the tough bantamweight final. I think there's actually two on the card. The other one is Brian battle versus Gilbert. You're you Bina you're being tough middleweight final. And then we got Kevin Lee versus Daniel D rod Rodriguez

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excited for that fight. Go

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D rod, and Jared mer shot versus machmood Mart off and in the prelims got a few good fights. Mr. Sam Alvey is back in the cage smiling Sam. We love him. He was episode number two. Man have we come a long way he's fighting Wellington, Thurman Turman, and a few other fights that got canceled which I'm very sad about. I shouldn't even tease you guys but Tracy Cortez versus jG Aldridge. Tracy Cortez injured wishing her a speedy recovery. She's our girl she's been on the show. And then Caitlyn Vieira was supposed to fight Sarah McMahon my weight class so I'm always watching. I thought Caitlyn before Sarah McMahon former Olympian I believe Sara's injured and now Caitlyn is rescheduled to fight me should take so I know that's going to be an interesting fight. I don't know. I saw but I forgot when that's going to take place. And yeah, just the the card took a little bit of a hit. But I'm sure they'll have a few replacements on there. So watch that tomorrow. And if you guys have some time, drop me an email, the email you guys can send it to is sex and violence basically, if you want to have a guest suggestion send me you know your feedback what you think I'm doing good. Maybe you want to hear more. Hey, God, hey, Ashley. I want to hear more about people's childhoods and how they develop, you know, emotionally, I want to hear more raunchy sex stories, whatever it is, email me sex and violence. and, you know, let me know, or if you have a company or a brand or a product, and you want to be a podcast sponsor, shoot me an email. Speak at our sponsors. We love our CBD sponsor, a botanical bloom, a botanical bloom all their products are made with real CBD not hemp seed oil. All of their products are lab tested, and they provide a QR code on the box to track results, which is very important because Lusaka is always knocking at my door. They have tinctures hand sanitizer hand sanitizers, my bad lip balms vapor rubs gummies, and they have double the dosage in the gummies that normal CBD gummies have. So those are really yummy. Go follow them at a botanical bloom on Facebook and Instagram. Or check out their website, www dot a botanical that has been down, back and forth guys. So just I'd say check their Facebook, use code Ashley MMA and get 20% off all products. And let's not forget our sponsor who wants to help you love better and love more this summer. It's summer camping season. Let's talk about pitching tents. That's right. This episode is sponsored by blue chew. Blue chew is a unique online service that delivers the same active ingredients as Viagra and Cialis but in chewable tablets at a fraction of the cost. The process is simple. Sign up at Blue consult with one of their licensed medical providers. And once you're approved, you'll receive your prescription within days. The best part it's all done online. So no visits to the doctor's office. No awkward conversations and no waiting in line at the pharmacy. Bluetooth tablets are made in the USA and prepared and shipped direct to your door in a discreet package. Guys, there's nothing sexier than confidence and blue Chu can help give you the confidence where it counts. So if you can benefit from extra confidence when it's time to perform, blue Chu can help. And we've got a special deal for our listeners. Try blue Chu free when you use promo code Ashley as h l e at checkout, just pay $5 shipping, that's Blue promo code Ashlee a sh l e to receive your first month free. Visit Bluetooth comm for more details and important safety information. Ladies, Bluetooth is exclusively for men, but the end result is something you'll both enjoy. So get your man to sign up.

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Today's guest is an American mixed martial artist and politician. He's the former UFC light heavyweight world champion and UFC Hall of Famer. He's a successful businessman and entrepreneur as well as a movie and television actor. outside the cage. He runs his own clothing line named punishment athletics enterprises and his athlete management company. Time 360 ESM he authored a best selling autobiography. This is gonna hurt and became a crossover star and mbcs Celebrity Apprentice, along with fighters like Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell. He was one of the sports early stars. He became the biggest pay per view draw of 2006. For his fights with Liddell Forrest Griffin, and Ken Shamrock. We talk about trust issues and relationships. She said yes, new engagement, sex on the 56th floor of the win. Anti threesomes no sharing, lots of biting and back love pocket rocket education and so much more. Here's your guest, Tito, the Huntington Beach bad boy Ortiz. What should now when you're on your toes? Don't say? Thank you. So you're lucky.

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All right. We are here with the Huntington Beach. Bad Boy. Tito, thank you so much for coming on the show. I'll make it quick. I know you got to get back to training for your next fight. First of all, how's how's camp going? How are you feeling?

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I'm doing good. You know, it's kind of challenging. I haven't forgotten almost 18 months. Over the last five weeks, I've really sat down and just stand there putting in the work, you know, three days a week, three times a day, six days a week. Two weeks, seven days a week. And actually today's kind of day off? day off I've had in two weeks. Yeah. Challenging, very, very challenging to get up and do the same stuff over and over. But it's what I want. What I want to get out of it. And I got to put in the work. Yeah,

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I mean, you know, it's a podcast called sex and violence. So of course, we're going to talk about the violence for a little bit, but I won't get into depth. But I have some main questions. One being you know, you've accomplished so much in your 46 years. on the planet here, you've got 34 fights, lengthy career with UFC bellator. And then you made your debut fight with combat day. And now you're going to be fighting for triller. So are you still in contract with combat day? Is this next fight with Anderson a one and done? Do you plan on going back to combat day? What's the plan or the plan is right now is

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to find out. So when I'm when I'm successful, and hopefully we'll do another one I would like to do ever imagine I remember that's my bread and butter. But boxing is fun or exciting. I mean, I don't have to wrestle, jujitsu said I've got to put myself through a grinder anymore. With wrestling jujitsu, anonymous boxing, so it helps a little bit. But at the same time, it's just very difficult to learn all the angles and all the punches, speeds and power. I mean, just so much different stuff that is learned. And I'm being taught, I'm catching on super fast. I'm in boxing for a long time, that now I don't have to worry about knees and have to worry about kicks. So we're just gonna see what the future holds. I'm done with combat day. This is my last night with them that I still want to compete. You know, I'm 40 years young, I feel good and energized. It just I wish I didn't take off the time I did during COVID kind of hard because all this or shut down and I didn't had a big impact on everybody in the world. Even hearing that stage and in the combat world.

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Of course, but I you know, you're not alone with the time that you took off. And if this fight proves anything, it's that you're resilient. You know, like you've you've bounced back from from worse before so it's exciting to hear that you're not you know, this is not a one and done type of fight moving forward. It feels like you're just gonna take it one fight at a time.

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Yes. 100% I one thing I think a lot of it is just the mentality. I'm happy. I'm just with my personal life, my relationship I'm with my family and my kids, my family, everything is just so positive. You know, I went through such a long time of just, you know, toxic relationship that just, it hindered my fighter mentality. Big time. And now I'm able to kind of focus on training and I have someone who supports me and, and has my back when I'm sore. And I'm having a good day or, you know, just being there as a partner. And there's an amazing woman, I'm very thankful to have her but to be there for my children as she has been very fortunate, and also, so it's just, I love them. I'm a positive person, I'm in a positive environment of a dangerous fighter. Very dangerous, because I don't think that the fight game and that's how it should be for all fighters.

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I agree. My former coach Mark Munoz used to say a happy fighter is a dangerous fighter. And I think he just referred to the fact that it doesn't have to be all grind, you know, there's a lot of grind that comes with it. But if you can find someone to support you, or whatever it is that that makes you happy and balanced. So first of all, congrats, it looks like you just got engaged less than 24 hours ago.

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Yes, I did. She said, Yes, I was. I'm not gonna say I was thankful. I'm thankful for you being in my life and doing what she's done for me. I'm happy that she said yes, I knew she was gonna say yes, but I think she's just waiting for me to ask. Because I've always just had such a trust problem with our relationships, that I couldn't really trust a woman. But I think this COVID was a blessing in disguise for relationship because it should, whatever person should have, as you know, financially, I was having problems. And I had to kind of cut a lot of things out when I when I take care of my mom and her house, her husband, and I take care of myself and take care of my three kids and Amber. And then all of a sudden, we're not working for 18 months, you started taking over savings and you looked at the savings aren't as much as it was before. We're not making zero money. She said, don't worry about it. I'll take care of us. And she went out and she's working for Monet, which is hair and skin health environments, and she's been killing it. And she's been helping women to do that to take care of me. I've never had a situation in my life ever. I've always take care of my women, always. I found someone who wasn't gonna leave me who wasn't gonna say, well, you don't have money when I'm out. We're not to go to the games anymore. I'm out. She wasn't that she was my support. She was my backbone. She was the woman said your baby, no matter, we'll get our feet back together, we'll get everything together when they get back on our feet and make it happen. It was just a blessing in disguise as this trailer fight came about, that our business get about from the last couple of months. And it just once again, I think when you're trial of success is no longer there. And you got to push forward and you have some support Jean has your back. That's when I realized that this one was really good. And I want someone to live on the road with. She's the one I'm going to ask her she said yes. And I'm very, very thankful because she loves our children as her own children. And she's been living for eight years. And once again, I I really just am very fortunate to have a person that care in my life. And marriage is just the next great step. And God sent me an angel. I'm very thankful and lucky.

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I love that. Yeah, this COVID situation was a proving ground for a lot of people and their relationships myself as well. And, but anything when hard times come up, you get to see people's true colors. And sometimes it doesn't work out for the best and unfortunately, or fortunately for you, you know, Amber was she's a writer die. And so Congrats. I'm really excited for you guys. My question before yesterday, I was gonna try to politely ask like, what are you waiting for?

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You know, but a perfect basketball was man. That's exactly what it was. It was just I've always had they had an agenda. But this agenda to hers just to be happy. You know, as a kid growing up. You know, I used to watch television and watch happy families. You know, watch the facts of life, living the facts of life and that beautiful castle with a white picket fence, beautiful wife and a beautiful kids in the beautiful houses and cars and loads of success, the American dream. Why have achieved that, but I can never find that princess like a friend or friend or find that queen. I did with Amber and I very fortunate. It's just once again that we had the same mentality. We have the same goals in life. I'm very, very fortunate. You know, she's unselfish. She looks out for me as I look out for her. It's just nice when I come home and foods collapse and my clothes, clothes are clean. And then it's kind of an oxymoron to kind of sound that way but no, true. I mean, I have a partner where I support and she supports me. She puts the family and we're a family unit. And it's very, very important. I mean, this is the American dream and this is what I have done. It's made that much stronger. I'm not gonna visit.

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Yeah, and one thing I've noticed, in my own relationship, trials and tribulations is it's one thing to have the same goals and mindset, but work ethic, when you have work ethic and your partner. They can't hang. It's just it feels awful to be the one who works in grinds. And then at the end of the day, you look over at your partner and they're, you know, doing their toenails or or kicking their feet up or whatever it is. So me and my partner, you know, when times got tough, both of us were grinding. And I think that's a big thing when you match each other. Goal wise and work ethic. It's a beautiful thing.

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Yeah. And she's, she's a workhorse. It's amazing. Last night, she was on the computer to throw in the morning. Literature, she said on our email list. She started this morning, probably about, gosh, six months ago, and she already has like, 150 people underneath her. I mean, it's just amazing of how how just team oriented she really is. It was just just shows that we were meant to be each other because I'm the same way. It's just amazing to see

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her she created something during pandemic. Yes. See that right there is just fucking amazing. I'm so proud of the people that, you know, we all were down on our luck. And then you know, some of us said, No, I'm not going to do that. I created this podcast. You know, my partner created a jujitsu event. Your partner created health and skincare. Yes, Mona, correct. Monet, and you, you know, you pivoted, you're like, fine. I'm going to do boxing, which says Allah, I think, you know, people are going to always say whatever they want to say. But yeah, they're not a UFC, UFC Hall of Famer and former World Champions.

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Yeah, it was fun, too. And it's an opportunity for me to do something that I love, I love to compete. That's why I love to cook. I love competition. And it's about being a former world champion, one of the greatest UFC fighters ever. I'm fighting a big name in that fight. Now push up on that and find somebody that could make it look stupid, or vice versa. You know, I think it'll be a very challenging fight. No, getting down into 195 is going to be very hard for me. I mean, I haven't been down to whatever five since my freshman year in college, damn. When they made 205. They made that because I asked, they asked me what would be perfect for me because I was the world champion at the time. And I used to be 199 I used to have to make and it was really, really hard. Last time I made 199 was when I thought I think it was Yuki Kondo in Japan to defend my title. And it was the hardest thing I ever did. But when I made two or five minutes that much easier, the extra five pounds when people say, Oh, it's an extra 10 pounds, we're losing weight.

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Pretty sure the choir here I'm fine. 4535 is a buck 20 fives and you know, it's hard for women, I would say it's harder. It's hard for everyone, you know, like, yeah, take a big, strong person and make a quick 25 pounds there crying real fast in the sauna. So yeah,

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that's where I'm at right now I got a 45 pound cut. I mean, I'm just trying to cut my carbs and I come across completely, but then I find my second week. I'm like, man, I gotta eat something. So it's like, I'm trying to find a happy medium. You know, the last three weeks, I've cut my carbs completely out. I've already lost 22 pounds. And I mean, I was up to like 242 to 43. And I'm just watching other webinars to 20. And I was I was happy I was really happy. But once again, it's just doing the road work isn't doing the long distance runs. Just putting in the cardio and network and sparring or sparring three days a week. Right now. That is just finding the right partners who are southpaws, who mimic exactly what Anderson Silva does. And I do Vijay Silva was amazing fighter. Yeah, mimic some perfect, and it's great. And it's I get my ass whipped a few times, but I get to have some ask you so

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it's not too bad. Yeah, days a big boy.

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That's awesome. I'm happy. I'm excited for the fight. You brought up your childhood earlier watching TV shows of happy families. I did my research. You know, I know Tito cage wise, but I didn't know about your family life. I personally have a lot of background, a family history of methamphetamines and stuff like that. So when I read some of yours, as well, you know, I don't know if it's similar childhood but I wanted to know about young Tito, you know, it didn't sound like you had the best upbringing. But I want to talk about like, when did you first get into girls? I know you got into wrestling later. Sometimes when you wrestle. It just takes girls out of the picture. You know, you're very focused, but do remember your first kiss. Do you remember the first girl you had a crush on like the birds and the bees? That kind of stuff?

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Um, yeah, I think it was kind of young just because I exposed to a lot of it when I was even kid. Yeah, unfortunately. Unfortunately. watching porn when I was done You know, flipping back and forth and maybe 99 on the cable channel. He was in between channels. About I kissed my first girl. I think I was Gosh. Sixth grade. Maybe 6/7. Maybe it's not bad. That's not bad. Yeah, I was in Garden Grove. Little mortality time, and I was ever her house. And it was just one of those things. It's just a kiss. But I didn't really think of it. It was just just seemed like something that was on TV. Yeah. two and two together yet. And then I was always interested. Kind of just kept me focused was I was a little immature. At my age. I think I just really didn't grow up fast enough that I thought I should. I was hanging out with older people. But I'm still a young kid. And it was just, it was weird, because the things that I've lived through. I mean, when I was five, six when I was smoking weed, five and six, and, yeah, that's Hb emeals. Downtown Huntington and Southampton was a herbalist meant to me, that's how I was, yeah, I grew up in a punk rocker. At five and a half, when I was in kindergarten, I had long hair down in my house and all my friends in front of me call me crying my mom, I cut my hair and said that I have as a mohawk, cut off jeans, combat boots, and TSL t shirt. sleeves got off. That was me. I mean, I grew up like that. And then all the way up to seven, I'd say 70 that my mother father got addicted to heroin. We moved to Santa Ana moving from the title motel. And it was challenging because I didn't really understand what I was going through. I thought it was normal life and it really wasn't. Yeah, mother, Mom and Dad Sam and me son suffer from the matches when they're burned from the spoon. Remember, literally never a small trailer and a little like a two person trader and seeing through the curtain, the spoon being raised and me being the drugs being sucked out monito from the spoon. It is known as offer me to this day sober. My soul matches, it just gives me a flashback to that. Yeah, and I was six years old, and I still have fat back so that just as a kid growing up, I shouldn't have been. I should have never seen those things. But it made me strong, maybe message stronger. As I've started is successful. I never wanted those things for myself. I don't want the social my children. So I work hard to make sure they never have an opportunity to be around that ever. Yeah. But I wouldn't take any of it back. I mean, I'm, I'm okay that I went through those days because it made me react and men in life of what to do or what not to do. Yeah, I was very, very, very street smart. When I was 13, I was set out with my mom or my dad, my grandma, one of my sons got shot and killed him. as Robin and I told my mom about it, she unbelievable. We drove by and he's been carrying a body bag, and she's like five herself. Well, it's gonna be my son next. So she told my father you could serve on taking our settler. Or a week later, she got remarried and took me away. And we moved back to Huntington Beach and my life kind of got saved. I told my mom that I just yesterday was the day before yesterday. Just thank you for making the sacrifice you did leaving, dad. I know it's really hard. I know you're not Tim. And I had to do the same situation in my life with my ex. And then when I started but I really got to a point where I was thankful. I was a kid who's watching to watch professional wrestling and watch for Kobe and macho man, Randy Savage did the same thing. And I was like, I want to be those guys. Remember just on Sunday morning or Saturday morning and I'd be up early in the morning. Kind of breaking, watching it and watch mom one day. And she's she's like, you can keep dreaming. But she never expected me to do that. But once that happened, she's like, I remember he used to tell me that he had a big bright lights. My mom I never stopped dreaming. I always always wanted that is crazy because it's just a self belief. And I believe in myself. We're gonna suffer the prophecy where I gotta just keep believing and keep putting it out there keep putting it in the universe. And as you know, it's just a manifestation or manifest of what I believe.

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Yeah, I totally agree. And very similar story with my background and my brother. I always wonder why I went the same way you did. telling myself okay, that's definitely not not how I want to live my life. My brother on the other hand, got into drugs and never left our small town and that kind of stuff. I love him. You know we love each other, but it's just crazy how you can decide to go One way or the other, and you you ran with it, you said, I don't want to be like this. And even at, you know, in your 40s, you're still setting the bar higher and higher and higher, you've achieved so much. But if you're not, you're not okay with that you continue to set the bar higher. It's like, my legacy can never be good enough. I want more, I want more, I want more. And I love that. You know

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why I think that's just literally the epitome of successful person. They want to just thrive better and better, better. You know, I've met a few billionaires in my lifetime, and it's still, they still want more. But it's just that success mentality of trying to do yourself better and better every day. But at the end of the day, when you look in the mirror, and you brush your teeth, and you say, Have I done something good for myself and my family, or have I done some good for somebody, in my surroundings, have it as good something for others? Yeah. And those are the type of questions that I question myself every single day. Literally, every night, I will bet I always say, Have I done some good to somebody today, or have I helped somebody today, or how to help my children today, I have helped myself today. And it's just do maybe I'll do my former Roman law just on Thursday, I was it was a hard run, like my body was hurting, my legs are hurting. My back was hurting my neck was hurting my arm. I hope it was just a smarter session. And I ran after that. I almost didn't make it. But I just I watched this guy, David Goggins. And he just tries to make you challenge your mind. Yeah. And at that point, I had a challenge my mind was either I stopped and say you when I say no, you're not going to learn how to push through it. I don't care what happens after I get done. Learn how sore I am, how much it hurts. But as long as I get it done, and I did it, and I got done, and yeah, I was a little bit sore. But I was okay. I was alive. I was, I was walking, and there's no injuries. But it's just that mentality of taking myself in that dark area, taking myself in that uncomfort zone, that people like to live in. civil society and sometimes you can't be civil. Yeah, sometimes you you got to go outside the box, and just don't be a part of the rest of the herd. And sometimes you got to be on your own. And I like being alone. I do. I mean, I just like to say what's going on as my kids are happy, and and mature to support me. I like just to be home. I'm a homebody. I like it.

Unknown Speaker 32:19
Yeah, it sounds like early in your in your childhood. You know, you probably had to spend some time on your own, you know. And so my question I want to know, because I know it for myself. It's similar, since I didn't have a good family life. When I got into relationships. I just fuck clung on like, they were everything they because they weren't they were not just my partner. They were my new family. And, you know, so when things went good, it was amazing. And things went bad. It was like my whole world collapsed. And so I'm like wondering, okay, Tito, you have this childhood and you're struggling. And then whenever girls came in, you know, you were young, but like, you know, 14 1516 first girlfriend, that kind of stuff. What was it? Like when you start actually having relationships with women?

Unknown Speaker 33:03
Um, you know, I? Well, gosh, my first girlfriend was my sophomore year. I don't even have my freshman year. But I actually ended my freshman year. And we had sex once. And it was, it was I don't think it was not magical. Not magical. I mean, never is the first time Yeah. First time I never really was. It was kind of more of intimidated more than anything. But my first girlfriend, I lived my sophomore year, and we dated for two years. And then she dumped me. And just the feeling of that was horrible. Yeah, I didn't want to have a government ever again. I was like, I'm over this shit. I just didn't. I didn't I being abandoned is horrible. Because I had that same feeling as a child. Yeah. And I always want to be accepted amongst others. I mean, this silly shit right now. And I don't talk about it that much. And I talk about it to my therapist. I had to go through the bullshit, but it's what made me I mean, it's still the feelings I have. And the abandonment issues are horrible. Just feeling not to be wanted to not to be loved. I mean, my dad was never there for me. My dad chose drugs over me. I mean, it was horrible to have that going on. And that's why I tell my kids every day that I love them. Yeah, good. Good. Yes. break that cycle. Yeah, I broke it does. I refuse to be a victim. You got to be a Victoria and I'm going to show other parents that it is possible. So make yourself a victim. As you know, it happened to me. So I'm gonna continue the cycle. Yes, stop, stop being a pussy, stop. Stop being father was those excuses. Suck it up. Again, responsible beep be present. Tiger kids, you love them. Because if your kids weren't there, then you would have never wanted to be there. And they shouldn't have been there if you didn't want him if you wanted them and you brought them into the world. Now it's time to be a parent and break any other cycle that you're used to being in unless you're in a great family. And then once again, parents were were great parents, but then they're absent because they're working so damn hard. Sometimes just take down the work and just look to your son and give them a hug and tell them, I love you, son. I'm proud of you. You know, I know I'm working hard right now, I'm not around that much. But you know, we're gonna have a good time and have vacations and have little smart things, family outings and stuff. And, you know, Christmas and Thanksgiving and birthdays and things like that, where it's a big family gathering where, you know, I've had that for my children, I never had as a kid that much, at least, like I had it up to about person. And then after that, it just kind of just dwindled to nothing, until I started making it for my children. And it's nice, you know, and that's one of the other great positive things with the ampere is her family is so connected. I mean, her mother, father divorced, but they're married to other partners. And they're still very close. Like when I proposed her, had her whole family come down. It was a mom or stepdad, her dad or step mom, her brothers. So my close friends, my mom, my brother, and it was just great, because amber has always had that family, genuine ish relationship with each other. And with her grandma, the monitor data will preserve data date, and her mom called her. And then her dad called her and then her grandma called

Unknown Speaker 36:19
you out, like, you know, because the childhood that we had, and then I remember getting dating some people who had real close family situations, and I'm like, you guys are weird. Like, what? Yeah, kind of creepy. And then I'm like, No, you just were neglected. Just Yeah. No. Yeah, we were it's all we knew. It's all we knew

Unknown Speaker 36:42
that we had no other choice. Yeah, our families didn't see the difference. That's how we are. That's normal. That's normal for us. And that's what I was wanted.

Unknown Speaker 36:55
I mean, always wanted to live like that. And to see her family like that. That's what I knew that she's the one you married into more love and more, more kindness and that and that's good for not just for you before your children and their children's children. And so now you have this loving extended family. I love that for you. You got into the UFC in your 20s correct?

Unknown Speaker 37:15
Correct? Yeah. 1997 may 13 1997. I was 10 years old. I bought for free for free, as an ultimate and I did it just because to challenge myself to see how do you know I wrestled at the time I was gold was junior college. I was a state champion. Take Abbott will fight in the UFC and I was his wrestling partner and I said, I want to give it a try. So I fought for free and I stopped my first guy in 20 seconds and that's going to finals. I lost him after three minutes. After referee stoppage of him bleeding. Usually they put us back into place. But for that fight, they put us back on our feet. He called me a choking loss. But I think that that day a star was born. I loved it. I got the attention as a kid I always wanted Yeah, there was an opportunity to make some money. It was just once again at that time, it wasn't really about the money. I didn't understand it. It was more about the attention because you have to learn from everybody and I came back to Huntington, I used to go to a bar where the nightclub actor usually would have to wait in line at the nightclub. After that fight, I was the nightclub and I was in the back of the room like for my buddies and security CV I was at a studio to do it. And I have the more I have to wait in line with the bar to grab a drink and all of a sudden a guy sitting across the bar who shows to your bar bought me drinks all night. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 38:41
Of course some good things happen. Right? But you know, so my question you know, exactly segue into where I want to go. You're in the UFC, things are going great. You got the groupies, you know, you're all whether you're a rock star or a professional athlete, it doesn't matter or just a sex successful businessman, right? Women, people are attracted to power to fame to notoriety. So how did things change? You know, with the women, you know, I know, you know, you could feel the ones that were just looking for something, but maybe you couldn't. Did you ever have situations where you fell for a girl and then you know her true colors came out later? Like what was that like?

Unknown Speaker 39:24
Well, you know, I think a lot of it was I wasn't really honest man. And the cheating situation did happen for me. I mean, I was I was married. Right before I fought. I was on a raft raft and that was after that fun, but I was with my son girlfriend for four years. We were married for four years, but I paid about two years in after I was the world champion. I cheated in Vegas with a stripper Of course. end up becoming my girlfriend and I strictly just had a relationship just with her and my wife and I I couldn't have any more I couldn't hand over the line. I just I felt so guilty. And I end up having to tell my wife that I was in love with her anymore. I'm a different person and I have to move on. We got a kid, Jacob, who's my oldest, and I didn't want to fight in front of Jacob all the time. I don't want us cussing and fighting every single day. And that's another way of family because that's not how it is. So I hadn't own up from my mistakes. I confronted her and I told her that, you know, what I did, and I can claim, and we got a divorce. Were a great relationship after the divorce for 13 years. But things have changed over the last five years now. very vicious. She's very addictive. I mean, that's kind of personal stuff. Yeah. No, I, I have had a lot of friends who've been a world champions, fighter friends and stuff, and they kind of don't treat women well. And I never wanted to do that. I've always treat people with respect and values. You know, there's been times that I've been back a hotel over the checkout in Vegas or whatever. And she's like, things get hot and hot and good. And all the socialists at No. Okay, well, you can go. Yeah, I mean, like, What do you mean, but I don't want to push anything. If you don't want to, I'm okay with it. Walk away. This is fine. It was the last situation like that. But it's difficult to devalue, respecting women. I've always been a shy kid, you know, with fame and fortune gives you the confidence. But still, at the end of the day, when I got to look in the mirror, I got to respectful for my name and respect for who I am. And, you know, I've dated a few girls couple. And I've had a ratio of a couple. And it's just once again, I want to treat guys respect have to respect themselves still. Yeah. And it was just kind of a segue goes into it as my x Jenna Jameson is just weird cuz alunbrig come from a porn world? Well, it wasn't I didn't. I can't judge a book by its cover. I can't judge a person by its past, or her past and I didn't. I met a woman who's smart, very intellectual, very business savvy. And she was beautiful. And I don't give a shit who she had sex with if I didn't care, or most tylose with her ex husband anyway, so it didn't really matter. It wasn't a thing to me. He was oh, that's gross, disgusting law. Okay, well, everybody knows everyone because this shit. I mean, it is what it is. Humanity it is what it is.

Unknown Speaker 42:34
It's just unique that someone like you and even myself being a quote unquote, I'm do using air quotes here. Alpha, right? You sometimes we are associated with being very territorial. And so it's like, oh, how could this alpha male be so okay, with his partner being with all these other people? And it's like, What's done is done, you know? And you pass if you're, yeah, if you're smart enough to know that and then, you know, I don't I don't know exactly what was going on while you guys were dating, if she was still working or whatnot.

Unknown Speaker 43:04
She wasn't at all she retired. While we started dating. She retired completely. And the three years prior that she was with her husband, and she had a shot with her husband. And these are type of things that people don't know. Before that I don't care. That's people's past your past. I mean, I have fucking skeletons in my closet. Who doesn't mean it makes you the person? I am? Yes. It really came about when I had to get full custody, my kids and I found the drug prom shoes. I didn't want my family to fall, as my family did have her mother and father. And I had to make the same decision my mom did. And that's my father and take my kids away from their mother and give them a better life. And things I found out in court, I was like, this woman should be in jail right now. When I was just it was discussing with those that were being done. And I was in camp, with drugs and so forth that the people that are in my home, just this this strategy, my children, I saved their lives. Yeah, very, very thankful that I was. I had enough balls to not be selfish to think my children's future.

Unknown Speaker 44:09
Thank your mother because your mother gave you that example of what to do when shit hits the fan. You don't just sit down and take it. You gotta you got to make a move. I learned.

Unknown Speaker 44:18
I told my mom that on Friday night after I said thank you, mom. She's like, No, mom, thank you. I had to make a decision with these boys. future's so bright, because you made that decision. If I didn't make that knife out of unselfish and said how much I love Jenner and continue to to endure the toxic, abusive relationship. I would have never left. Yeah, I saw my mom did and I was like, I can have the strength to do it. And I did it and it's been eight years she has been nowhere to be seen at all the signs all over the fan. Ruby people attacking me all the time and attacking amber is getting better over the last five years. But once again, it just shows how strong and makes me an ember. And my therapist told me was Tito you can't save your mom. And it hit me like a fucking ton of bricks. I came to realize that I couldn't save my mom. I couldn't stay. I mean, it goes really, really deep and deep. Yeah, deep. And it got me deep. Yeah. Because I mean, at the end of day I love Jenna and like, I've never met the woman. That's how I love me right now because she showed me that lunch really should be like, Yeah, but I, I couldn't help her. You can you can't help anybody who's been victimized. You can't help anybody who's been abused as a child, they can only help themselves.

Unknown Speaker 45:31
You did a lot of great things in a hard situation. And you know, this question, the answer may be, you know, no, no regrets, no regrets, whatever, right. But is, you know, you're in your 40s now you were in the UFC in your 20s 30s wild times happen crazy things happen. Is there something that you wish you could tell younger Tito like, yo, Tito, this is going to happen? This is the way you should deal with it? Or, you know, are you happy with the way things panned out?

Unknown Speaker 45:58
Um, I thought about that a lot. You know, and I've always said, You know, I don't regret anything I've ever done. maybe one or two. And I think one of one of the top ones is putting a T shirt on says, Dave is my base and probably shouldn't ever. I mean, that was that was that was that was a big No, no, I think, again, the relationship I was in, I was getting kind of forced, not forced, but talked into doing it. And I probably should have done that. Um, I think it's better with you and Dana now. I'm not really I wish it was life too damn short.

Unknown Speaker 46:33
It is. It really is. And that's the thing I'm, you know, I just turned 34 you know, not to be morbid, but I just been thinking about death lately. How we could go any day. And, you know, did you finish what you started? Did you, you know, what's the lasting impression that you're gonna leave on people, and I'm like, I just, life's too short, to be angry to be mad. And I'm like, you know what, I'm just, you know, so maybe I'm just having that, like, you know, middle life, you know, situation where it's like, I'm letting go of a lot of things. But I'm with you on that.

Unknown Speaker 47:04
Yeah, it's I mean, it's super important. I mean, we all make mistakes. You know, I said, I was a kid who didn't really trust anybody. And it was really, really hard to trust people. And it's still really hard to trust people. And at that point, they would tell me one thing, and then they would do it to the other end. And just the propaganda that was pushed on me at USC, the bad boy cool, but why about me? Don't talk shit about me. Don't put me in a bad limelight. No, don't try to take away the history of UFC of what I've done. And being a five time world champion. Yeah, I'm almost erased at UFC. If it wasn't for my fans, I would be erased by the UFC. And it's scary to even think that way. I mean, I was a kid who had no background. Besides wrestling, I didn't come from a boxing background, I come from a karate background and COVID background, you know, I had to learn these things. And when I first got UFC on those muscle, as I did, a year and a half later became the world champion. And then depending on what kind of five consecutive times I mean, I didn't learn how to truly box until I was 3536. I mean, that's just crazy, just fathom. Because I did it on a heart, just determination at the highest level at the highest level. It wasn't like you're doing little amateur fights. It was it was literally like that I was once again, I didn't know what I was doing. I was in survival time. But it's just I've matured so much over the last 10 years that it's just, it gives me the confidence now to compete, steel and with all the injuries I've had, and still be able to compete and still get up and train and still do the things. Once again, it's not about mixed martial arts. It's not about fighting. It's not about competition. What it's about is what type of character I truly am. How am I going to challenge myself every day? Is it fighting? Is it business is a being a father? Is it just being human who wants to give back to society in a positive manner? Is it these type of things that's going to make me a better person so people can see me as not a role model? I don't want to be a role model. I want people to be inspired by the things that I've done. Because I've done a lot of bad things that people don't want to see the shouldn't have done to get Ryan. We're not bad things is Robin and murder isn't like that. Nothing like that. Just things that I've had to do to sacrifice the shit that I have right now. And it's hard and it's lonely. I mean, the most loneliest thing in the world is to be a fighter. Because Yeah, I got to get up and I got to train. I got to get up. I gotta run. I gotta get up. I got to sparring. And we never got to wait, Work. Work. I get to my diet. I mean, to go out and have a cheeseburger right now would be the most. No, and I can't. Oh, I know. I know. It's usually a cheat Sunday, but I can't cheat on Sunday night. Yeah, I got it. I got to have two pieces of bread with my sandwich today. So freakin happy about it. I don't drink sodas. I can't drink alcohol. Like, yeah, just the things that we take for granted every day. The day, I can't do because I have to sacrifice for the next month. And but it's important. Yeah, when it when it is over, then I could get myself these rewards and it helps

Unknown Speaker 50:10
my mind helps my body. And you're right. You're right, it is alone, right? Because even though you have a partner, she's not doing everything with you, she's not running next to you or that kind of thing. So my question is, for the younger fighters, men, males or females, what is your suggestion when it comes to being on that championship journey? And then the option of having a partner, you know, like, sometimes you fall in love, and you can't you just you're in you know, and and you're consumed by it. But, but if you can choose, would you have chose to just not have a partner and just focus on your goal, or do you think it's beneficial to have a partner?

Unknown Speaker 50:49
I think it's beneficial to have a partner, but I think the best way to see is to see how their parents are. See Oh, good. Yeah. I mean, for men. See how your girlfriend's mommies see how their girlfriends? Oh, no, no, no, because my mom, I'm serious, what I tell it is or on opposite. Women are men you see how their fathers are? if they have any traits if their fathers have, then that's that's a red flag. I mean, see how their mothers treated them? You know, and that's another hard thing right now, too, is just a lot of kids are soft. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're soft. Yeah. It's just one of the things that I really try to give my kids everything I never had, but make a work for everything that I've always wanted. And they don't have cell phones. They don't have iPads. They don't have a computer. Nope. They're 12 years old. I've never haven't had it since they've been five or my cousin, she's had an iPad, they would be on all day. And they would never talk conversation with each other and have a conversation with us. So I took it away. When amber came in, we took everything away is they have time to play Xbox on weekends only. During the school year, I'm not taking braids under C's are excuse me under B's and A's, then they can't play at all. They have to get their grades up to see our A's and B's to keep playing Xbox. And that's only on the weekends. But once again, it's given them goals each and every day. And then they do their own laundry. They clean up after themselves and share their beds made every morning. They brush your teeth. Just easy, basic, fundamental things to I'm doubling my children up for success. I build my children up for the future to take care of themselves. They cook for themselves. We cook then, of course, but when they need to cook lunch, whatever is like go go make your meal. They're like I mean, they made cake for Amber's on Mother's Day. It was the best cake I think I've ever had. I was like, there was German chocolate cake. We didn't have coconut. We don't have sugar. So they shift those brown sugar out of the oatmeal packs. They use oatmeal with coconut oil to make the coconut that's a German chocolate cake. It was just amazing to see these kids, the survival mode, and we're doing it and it just once again, I'm setting my children up for success. Yeah. What did it give me depended on me all the time. I thought that sorry. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker 53:22
I saw that your oldest is now going to Arizona State. Yes. Was he Jones? My background is wrestling big wrestler. So I know all about Zeke Jones went to one of his camps. That's pretty awesome. Very happy for your son. That's great. Thank you. Great choice. Very stoked. And just that I'm I know how much wrestling, you know, changed your life because wrestling changes a young kid's life, especially when they come from the background that you and I did. It's everything to them. And so it's so exciting to see your son kind of go down the same path that I know that must be very rewarding for you.

Unknown Speaker 54:00
Surely rewarding. I mean, he's wrestlers, even six years old. I mean, he has his ups and downs. Yeah, those challenges, you know, his mom is really kind of taught him a little too much. But over the last year and a half, he's changed a whole bunch. He's been more dependent, or independent, excuse me, and I just I was I was very impressed. And he was supposed to go to Arizona Christian University. They end up dropping the program. He came to me 10 years in distraught going, Dad, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm really looking over at Florida and na, I was like, whoa, hold on a second. Let me let me give a call over Arizona state. And I nosey Jones. Lee preds. Assistant Coach there and I've had a bit of a relationship with them and they're like, Alright, I'm with my son just want to stay tight on Arizona. I know he's what's going to ACU primary got dropped. Is it possibly I can get a bigger program. I got he's a very, very tough kid. Very smart. I go he He can be a great leader Rogers. In the program. You guys have history you guys have is amazing guys have champions. I just want my my kid around champions like yourselves, and Zeke Jones is like Tita. I've been a fan of you for a long time. I was like, Frankie sounds like he's up, whatever I can do, I'll try to help. And so I'm gonna put it in your son's hands. He hasn't done all the paperwork, he gets everything done, and get it to me by certain date, then we'll see what we can do. Well, I'm very thankful that my son stepped up and did what he did and did the paperwork and did everything but the classes for the house living. I mean, he really went out of his way to get everything done, and work hard to make it happen as well. Right? Your kid his little stud. Once again, I put it in his head in his hands and let him do it. I wasn't going to do it myself. I made the phone call. I gave him the opportunity to the manager. I'm thankful for it.

Unknown Speaker 55:51
I love that. I want to ask you, you know you're in camp. You've got a see how many more weeks left? Two, three weeks, three weeks? Okay. So corny question, not one person has said that they abstain. But do you abstain from sex while in fight camp?

Unknown Speaker 56:08
Only one week before? One week before? And why is that? Um, just to kind of keep my testosterone in my body. No, just keep my emotions. I kind of figured mentality of it of this guy's making the sacrifice of having sex making the sacrifice cutting the weight. So the anger gets built. And the aggression gets built. And I couldn't control the aggression, of course. But I just don't want to be relaxed. Yeah, I don't want to be like, cool. No, and I've had many camps. God, move on. I thought Ryan Bader, I had sex two nights before the fight. So once again, it was just one of those things that my boxing coach Don house got from like, 10 years ago, he told me this, you know, his situation on that. I believe this. Because fighters go out at night to get ass the chasing girl down to two in the morning. And they finally get back to their house to when they foreplay 234 o'clock in the morning. Then they get acid 566. As they go to sleep, we got to wake up at 10 o'clock. So our training, well, they got five hours of sleep. They continue to do that. Their body is exhausted. That'd be totally different. You go out meet a girl or you're with a girl and you have sex and boom, you're done. I could go to bed at 10 o'clock at night. not asleep you wake up you're relaxed. Well now you're not just chasing as to get as you just got action, you're fine. And you're okay. Everything's good. Yeah, I mean, like, that mentality made me think about a lot more like Okay, why would I want always extra energy you're going out and chasing, chasing chasing? I could just get it and I'll be fine. There's other guys that won't do it for a month or two months. And that's just not me. Sexual person. So that's totally different than

Unknown Speaker 57:55
what you're a very sexual person. Most most of us spiders are males and females. What is a bedroom pet peeve? meanings you know, some people have said Oh, hygiene, you know, or lovers who want to receive but don't want to give that kind of thing. What about you?

Unknown Speaker 58:12
hygiene is number one hygiene. It's smell. Yeah. Smell smells number one. All body odor evidence. And that's another thing too. I mean, girls, just their scent. pheromones. pheromones are like the number one that that is my attraction. Hands down. Every girl smokes.

Unknown Speaker 58:33
I can't do it. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. No. Deal Breaker.

Unknown Speaker 58:37
Do she smells too strong a perfume cat? Yeah. The best way to tell you smell right behind the ear. You can smell behind the ear. You met a farmer. That's that is the trigger. And with Amber. That's been my trigger from day one. It's just It's just that bad thing. I know. That's what it is. It's Snow. Snow. Snow is my number one.

Unknown Speaker 59:01
what's what's like a situation I know you've been in something over the years where it was like one of your craziest. Like, maybe a girl asks you to do something too weird. And you're like, no way. Like, if you had to say like your weirdest sex story. Maybe you didn't actually do it. But the first one that comes to mind.

Unknown Speaker 59:19
I'm having sex with one of my friends and a girl. I was fighting weirdness. Yeah, this what do they call it the Eiffel Tower? We never got that far. I felt too weird. I don't know. Once again. People think oh, you date a porn star. And you're like, just most fuckin sexual oriented guy. No, I'm not. I'm a passionate man. I'm a very passionate man. I'm passionate. Everything I do. I don't like to share. I'm, I don't know. I just I just I'm respectful. Yeah, I respect the woman. You said

Unknown Speaker 59:55
your respect. You said you were a little shy too. And that makes sense. You know? It's like, why do you want to perform in front of somebody else.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:02
Yeah, hell no. I like to keep to myself. what's the what's one of the craziest places you've ever had sex? craziest places ever had sex? Hmm.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:13
I was thinking maybe when you were with Jenna maybe like, you know, the people that have swinger parties and stuff like that. Now once again,

Unknown Speaker 1:00:21
I can't want to Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:27
I know, beach. Caribbean on the beach. I need the stars and the moon and once again on the passionate man. As crazy as that sounds romantic movie, maybe maybe kind of in Vegas. Again, so that was the win against the glass windows and

Unknown Speaker 1:00:53
oh, that's Yeah, that's way crazier to the beach. Because it's like more public and the risk of getting caught. But I mean, the good thing we're up to 54 physical flow. Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's nice. All right. Well, I feel like it's time for the lightning sex round.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:17
If you don't remember that lightning sex round is one word one question rapid fire. You got to say yes or no, there's about 14 questions. Are you ready? Cool. Okay, if you if you don't want to elaborate on something, I'm okay with it. But all right, lightning round with Tito. Do you dirty talk in bed? Yes. Spank or like to be spanked? No, biting. Yes. choke? Oh, no, not really. What's wrong? Okay. And then I feel like it's gonna be a no on this but threesomes No, no, no sharing. Do you watch porn? Yes. Any fetishes like feet? That Oh, that's different a back fetish. So I know what your favorite position has been. That's correct. me any fetishes like bodily fluids? Um like the pause you can play it on milk. Jesse. You understand? Got it. Got it. Okay. Any bondage like ropes, blindfold handcuffs. And no, I like I like hands free. I can free you got it and then role playing? once a while. Yes. But stuff on you or a partner. Now do you sex toys? A pocket rocket? pocket rocket. What is that? Yeah. It's a little it's a little small like vibrator. I'll Google it. I'll go okay. Moving on. Sex club or swinger party ever been to them? Nope. And are you a lingerie lover? Yes. All right. Congratulations, Tito. That was the lightning. Alright, we're gonna end with one game and some fan questions. Okay. Cool. All right. So fuck, Marry, Kill. Marry one kill one go. I think we're done. We're done here. My creative associates Dan Kinney and pat Kenny. Thank you guys. All right, you have to choose out of these three names who you want to fuck who you want to marry who you want to kill. Ready? Yeah, I guess yeah. Pam Anderson, Carmen Electra and Tyra Banks. All beautiful women. That's horrible. None of them deserve to die. All deserve to be banked. Or marry. God Gosh. gave you a hard one. That'd be a hard one. Back in the day, I guess Pam fuck caribous kill Mary, Mary Carmen Electra. bows the one I guess

Unknown Speaker 1:04:16
I've had to it's all for the game. Okay, good. All right, let

Unknown Speaker 1:04:20
me tell you I'm not a person to kill anybody. I think that's very vicious and vile. Terrible, terrible things. I respect a woman I would never want to kill her. So it takes a strong I don't want to kill. No.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:33
PSA out of the way. Moving on fan questions. Cross. Yo, I gotta push. All right, we got jumped at Johnny one three. What was the most humbling moment that you ever experienced in the cage?

Unknown Speaker 1:04:52
most humbling moment. My world tired of any good. Yeah, America. That was the hardest the hardest nights of my life. I tried to shower for a good hour, got out of shower and cried my anger away and looked in the mirror and said motherfucker, get back on this. How can horses do it again? Yeah, you always do. And that was in 2003. So I'm still here.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:19
I love it. Part Two, same person who was your biggest rival? lundahl shamrock etc. Do you have relate? Oh, sorry. Who was your biggest rivals out of Lidl and shamrock. Do you have the best relationship? Do you have a better relationship with them today?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:36
It'd be shamrock and he has had a bad relationship with him today. Because shamrock was not manufactured. It was real. There was nothing. It was all real. Got it.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:44
Okay. And at Carl Carlitos, Canton, asked Tito about the famous Lake Havasu trip in his Bronco back in his early UFC days with his HB HS boys.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:57
Ah, boy, Carlos. So we were in Lake Havasu. A little story for this one. So I bought this new truck, a K fat blazer on top. And I told my girlfriend, it was going to be my wife, but I was going to counseling take her shoulder recruiting trip. Well, we went to Lake Havasu badboy London Bridge resort, and we're in the parking lot. And I couldn't figure out a way to get to this to the bridge to the street part. So I just for buy over the top of the bridge over the side and landed on the street and park. That was a very, very crazy weekend. We came back on course, eight cylinder, we drove back on four cylinders and my rotor. The engine blew what we got back. So actually, to what I gotta say, so we're saying names right now? Well, my friends, David Matthew, who actually gave me the idea of coming on the show on Sunday. Thank you very much. Oh, is that David Matthews? David Matthews. He told you to come on this show. Yeah, he's gonna check out the show. I think he said something to you about getting me on the show. Well, thank you, David Matthews. Yeah, shout out is a big big fan of mine. He's been part of the punishment family now for a long time. All my family have breast cancer.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:17
Oh, yeah. You know, that is, you know, a fan just wrote to me, I tagged you and I really love you know, you have more experience than I do in this industry. But isn't it amazing the people that will just go out of their way to help you? purely just because you've been doing what you love to do, and you're like, I just been doing what I want to do. But thank you so much for appreciating me. it's mind blowing, and I love my fans. I love my supporters so fucking much. I'm sure you do too.

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I love No, there's nothing my priorities fancy. They are amazing. I'm very, very, very thankful for them. I wouldn't be where I am right now. Of

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course, of course. Back to the fans at also accardo favorite promotion you fought for which Oh, he's got like a three part here. Favorite promotion you fought for? We'll make it fast. forward at the UFC. Okay, favorite coaches you would credit your success to or which coaches sorry, he would credit your success to Billie Holiday Yama.

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Oh, nice.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:18
Yeah, Colin. He showed me what what hard work really was. And a person who is not selfish at all. I was waiting to come out of all all times I've ever asked him and he came to my camps and he helped me recipe style salsa. Sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's recent. Yeah, he just passed away. Yeah, and it's He's a good friend and a great cook but he was like a brother to me. And it sucks because he bought a COVID that I have all my friends on to my friends we are by COVID we all took medication and we fucking he heard us killed it killed it and I tried to give him the medication and the doctor did mad instead of as a part of the protocol and depending on the fucking ventilator and tell them it's fucking vicious what they're doing to people right now and that was a hard one salzmann boy Yeah, he recipes man like I say he's a fucking was amazing man. amazing product, amazing husband, just amazing brother and I love him and I just it's a shame that doctors are doing right now. And I know nothing to get political about things but when people's lives are being taken, because have been put on his ventilators and there's treatments out there people there's treatments out there. Do your fucking research do your fuckin reasons not believing these motherfucking doctors, man and people's lives could be saved and they're not because we're not a part of the agenda. And it's scary, scary people man Please welcome to your research, please. But I love song and God's looking over him and he's in God's hands right now and I'm thankful for him being a part of my life because he changed me a lot. He helped me a lot during the troublesome times. He told me a lot a lot of things he sacrifices title equals family, Joe Christmas, john Thanksgivings to come and train me up in big bear to get away from his family and Florida to come help me. And I'm very thankful to have that in my life. But the last coach and not least, my best brother, Jason perello. Yes. He's the one who saved my life for fighting. He told me to go grab that fucking bitches purse, well get yourself out of it, brother. Because you're not the title. I know. And that's what I did. And I and I did that. 2013 I changed my life forever. Jason.

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And just so you know, I mean, we all know that all of those people here or passed away, are so proud of what you're continuing to do. Like I said before, you're always setting the bar higher and higher and higher. And you are, you're inspiring everyone who's ever had a rough start. And so thank you. few more questions. At fight insight podcast. Huntington Beach is gorgeous. Why be such a bad boy in such a posh part of town?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:21
I think because I grew up in a punk rock era. And I say shit how it is. I have no governor on my opinion. And people don't like the way I say things when I say but I say the truth. And sometimes the truth hurts. And that's the way it should be. People are too damn soft right now. And instead of people talking shit, they should be getting punched in the fucking mouth talking shit. And that's how the honey to me used to be. Yeah. And we're slowly losing right now. You know, and a lot of my fans, they know that ran for city council, I got the most votes, speech history. And I just tried to help our city. And I wasn't a part of the agenda. So they attack me every single week. got so bad, where they're attacking my character and put my children the news, we're not wearing a mask. And when that happens, it becomes dangerous future my family. So I had to step down. And I wasn't a Democrat. I'm not a Republican. You know what I am, I'm an American, that cares about this city cares about being concerned, we're the fourth conservative city in the United States, Huntington Beach. And we need to stay like this and at the beach needs to stand up and fight for it. Because right now it's the most troublesome times of our lives in the world. of everybody see what's happening in Australia. Things are happening here in America, things are happening in Italy. I mean, there's so many plants and there's so many countries that things that are happening and there's just turmoil, and people need to start joining together. Stop being so close to each other. Stop putting people down, stop segregating people. Let's come together as humanity supposed to truly be like, you know, I mean, I go on my runs every single day and artists have the personal I run by I say hi to, I don't know, they don't know me. But I say hi. And about 50% of those people don't say hi back. It's just sad nowadays. People need to be more to join together and stop letting this government separate us because that's what's happening.

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All right to last two questions at Pat Kenny, who was your favorite fighter growing up and who is your favorite fighter now? pS please don't talk about people don't talk about enough but your fight with Vito Belfour was such an amazing fight that never gets talked about. Love you, Tito.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:34
Thank you so much for them to you, man. appreciate your support. Favorite fighter growing up? I'd have to say Sakuraba. Nice. Okay. Yes. I liked him because he bought. He just bought the show. He fought very, very well. He was aggressive. And he just had great technique. A person now I would have to say, Johnny bones Jones. No, he hasn't been a couple of years, but he's the greatest ever. He is one of the greatest man. I respect the guy hugely. He made some bad decisions, as all of us have yet but it's just how we end up at the end of the tunnel. I know he's found God to help him a lot as I did myself and it's just a great thing that that we got to perform and we got to show the young ones of how to do it the right way. Yeah, we do make mistakes but still get lost in mistakes that we do and just watch the people you surround yourself with. And that's who you become

Unknown Speaker 1:14:32
definitely agreed. Last question at Dr. dot sorrow. It's early UFC champ, one of the best coaches in tough history. Legendary rivalries bellator run politics now boxing looking back, what do you want to be remembered for? What is your legacy?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:51
My legacy to my children, plain and simple. As a man as I am, to be remembered as a person who always fought for the truth. A person who always trying to do the right thing will always try to give to others. And once again, not being a role model to be inspiration. And I could have been a victim, or I could be where I am right now as a victor. And that's what I choose. And I think everybody should choose that same mentality. And it's hard. It's not easy. It's very, very hard. But at the end of the day, I want my children to look back and go, my dad was a great man, my dad was a great father. My dad was very appreciative for everything we have and thankful for his, you know, for our soldiers or for our law enforcement, first responders and you know, a fireman, I mean, everything but he gives back to this country. I'm thankful for, I'm very thankful for I think

Unknown Speaker 1:15:49
you're showing sorry to go ahead. I think you're showing your your sons that some of the hardest things are the most rewarding. And they've seen that firsthand. So you know, yeah, you can get an easy win. But what does that feel like? It doesn't feel nearly as good as when you bleed, and sweat, and cry and suffer.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:10
So I know, it's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, right now, it's like I my whole life, I've always understood and loved this country. I love America to stand for the flag to support the troops to support the police to respect people and treat people the way you want to be treated. And now it's just it's it's in turmoil, where people hate this country. And if people will hate this country are the ones who've never even left this country before. Go to Venezuela, go to China, go to Japan, go to Thailand, go to these other networks, or go to these other countries and see how bad not in the vacation spots go in England go into the cities in Brazil, and somehow in Rio, and Juba, Kibera, and there's so many other cities and spots in this world that people have never even seen of how bad it really is. How good we really have it, yeah, but they don't realize how good we will have until it's gone. I'm guilty.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:08
I'm guilty and I want to travel more I sometimes I get stuck in my own little world. I just focus on myself and in grinding and building and then I you know, I realize there's other shit going on and instantly, I'm so grateful for what I have. So I understand what you're saying. And I know you're not in the political position that you would hope to be to create change but just so you know, just being you and doing what you continue to do what you've done for so long and even later in your you know, now you're in your 40s you are inspiring. So you're making change just being you Tito thank you so much for being on the show. I'm not gonna take any more of your time I know you want to go eat your two pieces of bread.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:46
No, I'm gonna pull my lunch right now some I'm okay I'm good. It's actually gave us a good emotion to think about her my read so thank you very much and for all the listeners thank you guys so much for this I know I'm a real man. I believe in just being a real good person and treating others the way I want to be treated raise my children like I never got a chance and I'm trying to do it right and I'm very thankful that Andrew said yes because yeah, I could have a happy

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my biggest my biggest takeaway from you all my research you know, I've always been you know a fan but you know, you never like stock someone like I did to do my research on you. And I just love that you started from the bottom and now look where you're at. And that's inspiring too. I don't care who you are. I really don't so thank you Tito so much. Thank you. Where can we find you on all your social media platforms? And how can we watch your September 11 fight against also former UFC champion Anderson Silva

Unknown Speaker 1:18:46
more of course on all my social media Of course on Twitter is Tito Ortiz on Instagram Now listen to this one quite literally punch in Tito Ortiz ti to or ti z 19990 to 1999 and it will ask you are you sure you want to follow this person because what he says is not true what it says that yes is that well that's it you know you've made waves in your life can try to mention me in your story or so forth on some people at work around you can't put my name on one of our main Instagram is to teach 1999 and I guess I'll say the whole truth and nothing but so help me God promise on my children and everything I always do. on my Facebook is Tito Ortiz. That my Instagram is a big one because I really kind of push that out. And of course, if you guys want to see some stuff that Instagram or let me post or Twitter or let me post on Facebook, because you go to my telegram and that's punishment patriot. And that's me that's all that I post everything myself. I do my research. I put it up so if you guys want to see and stay informed because right now you need to stand for like no other is punishment patriot on telegram. And of course, September 11 Live from the Staples Center arena, I guess Anderson Silva on triller you can go to my Instagram there's a link on there you click the link, or you can text Tito to 7530 once again that's text Tito that 75302 by the people view or to get tickets to the fight. But Washington September 11. This is a huge year for us 20 year, I might guess the anniversary, I guess his anniversary but a sad time to happen here in our country on September 11. In New York on Twin Towers, this will be the 20 year anniversary of that happening and I'll be fighting this fight for our first responders, our fire department or a police who sacrifice their lives and just to save people's lives during that particular day. I remember perfectly was 9:30am I was up in Big Bear as getting rid of my little title fight and my assistant walking in less than dose and Tito we're going to war I'm like What are you talking about? Twin Tower just got bombed and as I looked at it see the second plane covered and landed into the Twin Tower. So you know my prayers for all the families sorry for losses. Everybody that were in the Twin Towers, this is for all you guys. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:22
It's exciting date to be fighting on. You know, when you when you fight on a specific occasion that kind of gives you that extra little motivation that extra fire that extra energy, right?

Unknown Speaker 1:21:32
Yes. 100% this week called the Patriots and can't wait.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:35
Awesome. And is are we do you have to be vaccinated in LA? What's the situation? there? There's another night. I know. Sorry. I just wondering because I want to go I'm like, Oh, I don't know. Okay. So we have our test. Okay. Oh, negative. Yeah, you have to wear a mask in the event. Okay. Okay. So as long as you have a negative PCR test, Yes, correct. Okay. worth it. Okay. September 11. Guys, Tito Ortiz. The Huntington Beach bad boy better than ever fighting Anderson Silva. Very, very excited. Oh, last question. Who do you want to hear next on sex violence with rebel girl?

Unknown Speaker 1:22:17
Who I want to have sex with us? Yeah, let's see. Guys, if you want to get a fighter right.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:26
We have like 90% fighters, boxers combat sport athletes, but we've had comedians adult film stores. Artists, you know, musicians. We mix it up, dude to get on here. Some shift master. That would be awesome. Yeah, I would be good. I would dig deep. Okay. Yeah, that'd be good one. Thank you to have a great Sunday. Relax. And yeah, just appreciate so much. Awesome. Pleasure. God bless.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:19
That's it for Episode 65. I'm so appreciative of Tito for taking the time out as fightcamp to talk to us. You know, I just, I'm blown away because Tito is 46 years old. And he sounds like he's still has the fire that he did when he was in his 20s. And I hope that when I'm not old, I still am just as hungry and keep setting the bar higher and higher and higher for myself. And I I don't know. I don't know about you guys, but I feel inspired. I feel motivated. I want to go for a run right now. Stay tuned next week for Bella tour. Nick Newell. He was born with congenital amputation of his left arm, which ends at his left elbow right below his elbow. And he's just that hasn't handicap air quotes. That has not handicapped him from anything in life. He's basically great in everything he does. new movie coming out very excited to talk to him and how you know life has worked out for him fighting and relationship wise. I love you guys. I love you for tuning in every week and for all the fan questions. Thank you so much. Special thank you to our audio engineer, DJ soul at DJ soul. Tomorrow kids studio at tomorrow kids official, special guest videographer, Robert from

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free admission to media.

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And you can find us on Instagram at sex and violence with rebel girl and myself at Ashley MMA. I hope you guys enjoyed this week's show. What do I say every week? Remember, Be kind, be grateful. But don't take shit from anyone. I'll see you guys next week with a new guest and more tales of sex and violence.

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