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EP.66 Jonathan Sadowski

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Hey guys, welcome back to sex and violence with rebel girls, where we interview top level MMA fighters and other experts in their field about love, romance, and all the taboo subjects. I'm your host, Ashley, Rebel girl, Adam Smith. Now let's talk about sex. What's happening hot stuff. What's up my naughty listeners we are back and it feels so good. I apologize for missing the last two weeks. Basically, shit happens. I mean, I don't want to apologize too much because it was just circumstances out of our control. We are wishing the amazing Oscar De La Hoya a speedy recovery. I've actually already seen him on Instagram doing a lot better. Hopefully, he's completely over his COVID situation. And then then the following week, we just had a scheduling conflict with one of our guests. So we're very, very excited to get back to business and we've got a really, really great guest for you today. But before that, I'm going to give you a little ash update, like I always do. And since you haven't seen me in two weeks, I got a lot to say. So I will try and make this fast. Our website, it's up. It's running. You can get hats, shirts, button coasters, whatever you want. It is called sex violence with rebel Wait, did she say sex violence with rebel girl calm? Yes, I did. It's not sex and violence with rebel girl calm because that would be awesome, right? No. Some douchebag tried to what's the word blackmail us and make us pay for that? So fuck that guy. Our website is sex violence with rebel girl calm. No. And but I figure if even if you mess it up, it'll Google's pretty smart. You'll find it. So there's all the stuff. You need to purchase gear, you can listen to the episodes, transcripts. So for the audio impaired, you can read the podcast as well, which I've always thought was very, very important. We've actually been doing transcripts since the first episode. So transcripts are important for SEO if you're familiar with that, just so people can find your podcast, but audio impaired, you know, I hope that's the right way of saying it. But yeah, now you can read our podcast as well. Check that out sex violence with rebel on a very, very sad note, and I'm going to try not to cry right now guys, because if you are a longtime listener, then you know I'm a fucking SAP I'm a mushy girl. I'm a tough fighter girl but I'm also wishing mushy on the inside like a hard on the outside. Michelle on the inside like a coconut or something. Susie, I'm just gonna read this little thing that I put together cuz I'm a crybaby. So this will be easier. So one of the longest tenured and most beloved members of the UFC staff Susie fritton died this past week. Suzy was the UFC his makeup artists since October 2006. And for nearly 15 years, she was a key player behind the scenes and ensuring the athletes and other on air personalities for broadcast that they were camera ready for the world to see. After overcoming two previous battles with stage two breast cancer, Suzy was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer in March 2020 and died last Thursday after conditions worsened throughout the year. Although she understood the reality of her situation, she explained to us on the podcast exactly a year ago. Her death still comes as a heartbreaking loss to all of us in the MMA community. Suzy worked with hundreds of fighters during her long career with the UFC. And her impact on so many individuals was very clear in the wake of her loss. The outpour of social media love was amazing. We love you, Susie. Susie was such a great person. We actually I'm so happy I had her on the podcast, Episode 13 if you would like to go back and listen to that in memory of Suzy and just, you know, learn a little bit more about her. She was such a kind, warm hearted person. And I'm not good with death. I'm really, really not. Some people have had people in their lives pass away and you know, it's just something that they've dealt with before. I've been very, very lucky. And I haven't really had too many people close to me pass away so when this happened last Thursday. Man, that was a rough day.

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I thought I was having a bad day when our guest canceled. But when I got the news of Susie passing it put everything in perspective. And we're just so lucky to still be here and have these opportunities. So instead of crying and mourning and being extra sad for Susie, I think she would appreciate it if we just seize the fucking day. Just made the most of our situations and we all have life. You know, I don't know what situation you're in right now. It could be really, really bad, but you're still alive. And if you're going through cancer, you're going through something hard some kind of illness. My heart goes out to you and I just sending well wishes and strength your way. And Susie beat it twice in the last time it got her but she was a fucking fighter.

Unknown Speaker 5:52
I'm sure. You know, she was she's very, very missed by a lot of people. So I'll be dedicating this episode to Susie. And yeah, just go back and listen to Episode 13. And, and just think of Suzy. So some other things that I would like to talk to you guys about but are not that important. I just, you know, I always update you guys on my my physical situation with my spine surgery and whatnot. After hearing about Susy, I'm like, Hey, I got I got two legs, I've got two arms, I'm gonna be fine. But a quick update. I had my spine nine months post op, spine appointment. And my doctor basically said that I'm on track things are going good. Be back in the cage 2022. But we are going to try some new methods to speed up recovery. One being PRP injections, platelet rich plasma, they basically take your blood out of your body and they spit it in a centrifuge the plasma, the good plasma separates from the other stuff. They shoot it right back into your body. And so lucky me I'm gonna go get a shot in my neck and a couple weeks. And hopefully that increases the healing process. And I also got an MRI on my knee because money was getting a little bit wonky, probably completely unrelated to the spine situation, but just wanted to update you guys. But I'll be fine. And you know, 2022 is right around the corner. And I'm happy like I said, you know, have my legs and have the opportunity to fight in the future. I had an amazing trip up north. If you guys are followers of the show, you know that I've been talking about going back home to Northern California and introducing my partner my boyfriend to my family for the first time. That was a little stressful. My poor boyfriend he basically met my best friend from college and San Francisco drove up to Ukiah, California met my entire family and one night we took a quick break and we stayed in an Airbnb in the redwoods which was amazing. I would love to go into in depth about that. But we don't have enough time. We I was a bridesmaid for my best friend from college, Jackie Davis. Oh, Jackie Perelman now. And she had her wedding at the scream house. If you guys seen the classic movie, I think it's 1996 scream. stew is one of the killers. His house is like the party house where all the murders happen. That's actually where she had her wedding. Which was a weird Fun fact. But it's really cool to stay in that house and just yeah, just kind of relive that nostalgia from from the early 2000s when I watched that movie. Okay, so we got some fights to cover real quick because we had Tito Ortiz on our show the last episode previous episode before the one you're listening to, and he fought over the weekend against. He fought well he was supposed to fight. Sorry, my bad I got the fights mixed up. So basically over the weekend vanner Holyfield stepped in last minute for Oscar De La Hoya who we were supposed to have on the show, and he fought veto Belfour beater one in the first round by TKO. They had a move that card to Florida, Donald fucking Trump was commentating, I kept asking myself I'm like, is this real life? Yes, yes, this is real life. This is not fake news. People. President Donald Trump really did commentate for Saturday's triller fight and against Evander Holyfield, and Vietor, Belfour. And then unfortunately, you know, I don't know if you're a spider fan or a Tito fan, but, Anderson kayo Tito, and it's all over. It's all over the MMA memes and whatnot. That's the only bad thing right two people fight but then everybody gets made into a meme and it just sucks but tomorrow we have the UFC fights back, and it's a pretty awesome card. All right now here's the part of the podcast where I butcher and mispronounce all these poor fighters names, but the main cards pretty easy to pronounce. Anthony Smith versus Ryan Spann Ian coolabah versus Devin Clark Nicholas moto versus Cameron vancamp Mandy bone vs Aryan Lipski, Christos Geragos woo former teammate, black House of mine is finding Armen to soccer tectectec not gonna pronounce his name, Joaquin Buckley vs. Antonio Arroyo and then on the prelims. We've got quite a few fights we got to find, Nick. Nick, we vs. Mike Rodriguez, Pawnee penny. Ken Zod vs. Raquel Pennington, really excited about that fight. Always rooting for Raquel, Nate menace versus Tony gravely Dakota bush versus Zoo wrong. Montel Jackson versus JP buys Aaron blanchfield versus Sarah alpa car alpar and Gustavo Lopez versus Haley addling and Emily wittmeyer vs sex and violence. Oh gee, Hannah Goldie. So we're rooting for Hannah ruined for Gustavo. 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So get your man to sign up. Today's guest is an American actor best known for a starring role on the sitcom young and hungry. He's also starred in the CBS sitcom shit my dad says and is currently playing Devin on the Netflix drama series sex life. He's had roles in the romantic comedy film, she's the man, the action film Live Free or Die Hard. The horror film Friday the 13th and comedy the goods live hard, sell hard. This Chicago born lesbian now lives and works in Los Angeles. And when he's not studying a role, he's on the jujitsu mat or watching MMA. We talk about after hours bartender sex, the dirty his DMS intimacy coordinators. No pain in the bedroom, legal cheating, groin strikes on set and so much more. Here's your guest, Jonathan sadowski. When I wake up next to you and when I go along with you. next to you. Bye bye. Bye miles five miles

Unknown Speaker 16:48
All right, we are here with Jonathan sadowski john Jonathan Johnny What do you like

Unknown Speaker 16:57
about that? You just come in Sit

Unknown Speaker 16:58
down Sit down. Your your high school wrestling coach get on?

Unknown Speaker 17:03
Literally everybody calls me sadowski Okay, yeah, so that was all me whatever you want to ask call me whatever you want.

Unknown Speaker 17:09
All right, cool. You call me ash? Call me whatever you want. I'm super happy to have you on the show. I bet people are like how do Ashley and sadowski know each other? And basically, I've got a really cool manager Brian Butler of Sucker Punch. Shout out to Brian. He just I think he slid into your DMS and was like, hey, do you want to do this podcast?

Unknown Speaker 17:28
Yeah. I followed him already. And you know, I run a couple MMA pages as well. I have the casual MMA places one of my pages and top MMA comment with myself my partner Rob And so yeah, and I train and stuff like that. So I'm kind of like privy to the to the MMA world and stuff and and I was like, oh, what's what's a good punch hit me up for? So it was Yeah, it was a pleasant surprise. I love doing this kind of stuff.

Unknown Speaker 17:54
Yeah, Ryan is awesome. He I think he's pretty proud of me for starting this podcast in the wake of my spine surgery and almost a year layoff I just created this podcast keep me busy, but a lot of cool things have happened. One being I just meet interesting, cool people. And I find out that certain people that you wouldn't expect are to be into MMA are really you know, interested like yeah, so you talked briefly about having running an MMA page? casual MMA police is that what is called? That is it Yep. Okay, so my boyfriend and I he's a black belt. And I know a couple other of my friends we love this page. Because basically what you do is you have other people tag violations, actually, you describe it, it's a hilarious page and I had no idea you ran that page.

Unknown Speaker 18:43
Yeah, so um, so you know in the MMA world, people who we call them casuals who people just watch the sport casually but they think they they know a lot about the sport and training in martial arts and stuff like that. So anytime someone says a casual combat casual MMA please so we we arrest these these casuals I live but we actually we had to kind of we had to kind of pump the brakes a little bit because man that the MMA community is pretty toxic. I will say this, like fans, they go from like zero to 100 like really fucking quickly. Yes. So. So, I mean, it's like, people have gotten like death threats because of like, just saying something like an opinion on the sport. So we had we kind of had to start regulating, you know, we had to start blocking people's names we arrested and, and kind of really monitoring the comments because it was starting to get a little out of hand. Yeah, I

Unknown Speaker 19:44
mean, this page basically, you put people on blast who are badgering mostly fighters or people involved in people who actually know or participate in the sport. These quote unquote casuals are trolling. You know, people who Actually bleed, sweat, train and know what the hell they're doing. So I think it's it's so funny because that's also, you know, the catalyst of why I started this podcast. I myself obviously I've been in the MMA community for over a decade now. And I've been trolled. I've been told, oh, you should go kill yourself stop fighting all this stuff work. And so I know there are so many fighters or other you know, we have a lot of different people. Whether like you your act an actor or ring girls or makeup, you know, makeup girl, rip Suzy, on this show, and people just get trolled for no reason. It's crazy. So I thought, why not have a podcast to showcase a side, another side of the purse that you don't normally get to see. So it's very cool that you have that page, and you understand how bad the trolling can be.

Unknown Speaker 20:50
Oh, it's brutal. And it's sending me a trolling. It's just like, you know, you can't say anything in on an MMA forum without somebody jumping down your throat. How big of a fucking

Unknown Speaker 21:03
guy? Oh, well, last year there, Jonathan.

Unknown Speaker 21:07
I said, Guys, it's a sport. Can you hear me? Yes, I

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can hear you now.

Unknown Speaker 21:10
Yeah. Just like people are allowed to have opinions. Like, it's just. Yeah, it's crazy.

Unknown Speaker 21:17
Yeah, yeah. We just had Tito Ortiz on before you and Tito is widely known to say some outlandish things. But guess what? You can have whatever fucking view of whatever you want. At the end of the day, this person is a fighter. Do you want to go on there and comment on his fight about all his political opinions? That that's on you, you know if that's how you want to live your life, but seems a little pointless to me. I want to talk about I want to talk about how you got involved in jujitsu and where you train and who he trained with.

Unknown Speaker 21:50
Oh, yeah, I love you too. So I grew up wrestling. And when I came to LA, I really wanted to focus on striking so I did I you know, I studied karate as a kid as well. And I want to focus on striking. So I got into muy Thai, which I love and I still love that sport as well. And then, you know, the more I started hanging out at the gym, I originally went to I started meeting guys who were in jujitsu and stuff like that. And so I was like, You know what, let's give it a whirl. And, man, I'll tell you what girl jujitsu will humble you. jitsu will humble your ass. And yes, I've been training Jiu Jitsu now for like, six years. Nice. Yeah. And I, it's like, I've gotten injured pretty badly. Just you're playing sports and stuff like that. And so I, I kind of came out of the gates real hot with you jitsu, and I was still training, like, I was an 18 year old. And I'm like, I'm gonna be 42 like, a month. So I realized, like, I gotta, I gotta go easy. And, you know, I'm not unlike yourself. I'm not I am not a professional athlete. So like, I'm going to the Olympics and shit.

Unknown Speaker 23:07
That's hilarious. I had actually no idea that you were actually a wrestler. When I said sadowski get on the wrestling mat. I was just joking because I'm a wrestler. But yeah. So you have heard that many times that I was gonna get on the rest. Okay, so you wrestled in

Unknown Speaker 23:22
high school. Love it. I love it. Yeah, I wrestled in high school. I wrestled in grade school wrestler High School. And, you know, it's crazy. Actually, I developed severe claustrophobia, like as I like into my 30s and and jujitsu has really helped me with that really helped me with that it was it was actually a really big barrier for me to get across You know, when someone mounts you or you know, they're giving you the darkroom and it's it's just learning how to kind of like knowing when you're okay being comfortable being uncomfortable so and in jujitsu as as much as a physical game it's it's it's helped me out quite a lot actually with with mental stuff in my life as well. Yeah, nothing

Unknown Speaker 24:04
like a tight north south position to make it get over you're gonna get really used to be smothered by someone's balls. Or

Unknown Speaker 24:18
I remember rolling with some of these guys who are just like, this is dude, one of the guys who got me and brought me to my first gym. We call them big gym. He was like 674 100 pounds. And, you know, the first time I had him on top of me, I was tapping just out of claustrophobia. Yeah. That's brutal.

Unknown Speaker 24:35
Yeah, it's it's such a crazy sport. And you're right. It's humbling even for me, like, so I wrestled in high school, wrestled in college and and got into mixed martial arts. And as a wrestler, you know, it's, it's, to me the toughest sport, you just go into mixed martial arts thinking, Oh, I got this grappling. Oh, Potato, potato. I've been on the mat for years and then someone goes to choke you or put you in an armbar or a triangle and you realize It's a completely different world. You are, you know, there's no belt in wrestling as you know, you know, but you know, if I'm a black belt in wrestling, it doesn't matter if you're a black belt wrestling your first day on the jujitsu mat, you know, you may you may make an easy transition from to like, instant blue belt because if you're like a very high level wrestler, you know what I mean? Like you probably not quite a white belt, but it was a whole nother world and I still struggle with it. Like my whole life. I'm like, oh, get off my back, get off my back. And I'm still like, it's okay to be on your back. Just you literally.

Unknown Speaker 25:32
My mouth. Yeah. The first thing it's like when I when someone put me on, or if I pulled guard and I was on my back. It was really hard for me to get over that mental hurdle. Because like, This is bad. This is bad. You shouldn't be on your back. But now I'm like, I will put me on my back. Like I love you.

Unknown Speaker 25:48
Know, okay. soundbite libido, your back. I'm gonna ask you real corny question. You've been doing jujitsu for six years wrestling before that? Do you feel that training, mixed martial arts in these different ways, has helped you in your overall life, whether it just be acting or your love life, or, you know, whatever, being a stronger person mentally.

Unknown Speaker 26:14
Yes, 100%. Like I said, I think everybody should train a martial art, I think it's, you know, to me, they're meditative. And, you know, I get these tunnel visions when I train, that's kind of like, your training on the task at hand, which is very good for me, because I have ADD, and it really allows me to sit down and be able to do one thing, and put my attention into one thing. But also, I think, you know, when when you see somebody who trains whether it's weight training, or or jujitsu, or boxing, or Muay Thai, people carry themselves differently. And they really do walk through the earth with a purpose and they walk through and that to me, I think fighters or athletes, they, you know, they have a certain ground in this to them physically and mentally. which I love. And you know, I have a lot of frantic energy, just like I said, I'm, I'm severely ATD. And I'm hyperactive. So for me, I love that feeling of exhaustion coming out of the workout. I love the feeling of, you know, rolling with, you know, doing like six rounds. And just so you can't even lift your arms, but it's exactly where you want to be, you know, yeah. You feel like you have nothing left in your tank. Yeah. But also, like I said, I think it's, there is a certain confidence that that people who train carry with them. And I enjoy the conference. I know, I like knowing that I can handle myself if I need to handle myself. Yes, it's just kind of all encompassing confidence that that jujitsu and white tie has really kind of instilled in me. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 27:56
yeah, I completely agree. There's, you know, you can, there's a guy who walks around with his chest all puffed out, and he may train, but he's probably not quite at that level of, you know, you get to a certain point where you just don't have to prove yourself anymore. You can look at someone and just kind of know, you're like, most likely I can choke you out. And like, that's enough. And you just have this like self confidence and you don't, you know, you're not puffing your chest out anymore. And then I agree with you, I don't have ADHD, maybe I do never been diagnosed. But I know that there have so much going on in my life. And for a short one to two hour period when I get on the mat. That's the only time I'm able to clear my mind and not worry about anything, except for the task at hand. And maybe that is ADHD. I don't know. But it's, it's really the only place where I can quote unquote, leave everything off the mat, and just do jujitsu or MMA. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 28:51
I mean, look, if you're, you're rolling with somebody and you're thinking about your grocery list, you're gonna get choked.

Unknown Speaker 29:03
You're gonna have a nice little disco nap. Yeah. So yeah, it just, you know, teaches you how to, like I said, Just focus on the task at hand. And as these, you know, check the boxes as they come up.

Unknown Speaker 29:15
That's awesome. I love that you're such a big fan, you run different pages, you have the you have a it's an actual podcast, or just I do live with casual on the main page.

Unknown Speaker 29:26
Both. So it depends. You know, we always used to do a fully produced podcast. But now what we've learned is that the real we love the real time interactions and engagement with with our fans. So now that we have Instagram, they've opened up their lives to go you can go live with more than one person. So we can have like three or four people in our lives. Well, we'll pull fighters into that we actually it gives our fans a chance to engage with these, these people that they maybe wouldn't be able to gauge with regularly. And then you can always save your you know the video to Instagram Television So yeah, that's just it's super easy now it makes Instagram makes it super easy to do.

Unknown Speaker 30:05
It's a great method for sure. I think there's pros and cons, like you said with a fully produced podcast, but then, so cool to interact in real time with the fans. And you have I think, what close to 100,000 fans on that page?

Unknown Speaker 30:18
Yeah, just on that one. Yeah. request, like 50,000 I'm the only one that's awesome.

Unknown Speaker 30:22
It's, it's a pretty respected account in the MMA community because I feel like you're standing up for the fighters. And it's that's rare. And that's so cool. You've had plenty of fighters on I've seen you've had drew Dober and and Miss Jessie, Jess, and then I do know that you've mentioned something about producing a show with another fighter. Can you talk about that at all?

Unknown Speaker 30:45
Yeah, well, you've actually mentioned Miss Jessica Rose Clark, we had her on my podcast, onto the casual podcast, and heard I hit it off. And, you know, we started talking about what she wanted to do after fighting. And you and I have talked about this before, too, you know, it's like, there. You always fighters always have to have that in the back of their mind. It's like, you're not gonna be able to fight forever. And, you know, and, and, and, you know, I was talking with Jessica and, and it's funny, I'm sorry. But like, every, every fighter that I've talked to, and I'm like, What would you be doing if you weren't? If you weren't fighting, and every one of them was the same thing. Every one of them was, I would be I get accurate.

Unknown Speaker 31:41
I always, I always say I would be a rock star, even though I, you know, can't play an instrument or sing, but I just feel like I would really kill it at being a rock star.

Unknown Speaker 31:53
So, but yeah, so Jessica ended up talking and, and, you know, she's really cool. And I, I've always wanted to do this, I had this idea for, for a show for a female fighter. And we, we started talking about it and, and now we're kind of developing a TV show together for

Unknown Speaker 32:13
That's awesome. You know, I, I'm a big you know, I like to promote the sport, other fighters any way I can. I mean, another reason I started the podcast, you know, I want to propel not just women's mixed martial arts, mixed martial arts in general. So any kind of representation is Jesse, Jesse, or any female fighter is awesome. I hope that we get to hear more in the future about that. And then what about you, you? I mean, you're an actor, you're producing things. Now you're currently starring as dead in sex life. Can you tell us about how that's going? Season Two?

Unknown Speaker 32:49
So we are we are all caught. We are all very optimistic about season two. We have we're just waiting for the we're waiting for the official word from Netflix. And yeah, it was it was it was wild. I remember when I read that script to begin with. It was like, Ash, blush, dude. It was a pretty intense script. I remember reading it. And it's like, I'm like page two. It's like, Brad Pitt was going into the bathroom. The slides are wet patties aside and sticks his fingers inside. I was like, I'm like, I call my manager. I'm like, What? What? Not. And then he's like, no one's getting really good reviews. It's I get that script is getting a lot of heat. So I want to redo the entire season. And I was like, This is awesome. So yeah, we want to shooting in the middle of COVID pandemic, which is something else because all the new regulations made, you know, set like just very different. Yeah. And, lo and behold, we put together an amazing TV show. And yeah, it was the number one show in the world for a very long time. So that's amazing. Yeah, we're stoked about that. And then I I'm producing a film for john Legend's company right now. I'm producing my first film for a new line comes out on Thanksgiving Day, which we're all really excited about. It's a Are you a gamer at

Unknown Speaker 34:18
all? I am not, unfortunately, but there's plenty of gamer listeners.

Unknown Speaker 34:23
Oh, yeah. So it's called a big Christmas. And it's each the elevator pitches. It's about a 10 year old boy set. It's set in the 1980s in the suburb of Chicago, and it's about a 10 year old boy in his quest to get a Nintendo Entertainment System. So it's kind of like a Christmas story, but for our generation.

Unknown Speaker 34:42
Okay, well, that's much I I love Nintendo. I like classic games. So that sounds right up my alley. I would watch that and DJ soul is live good name is DJ cheering that he loves that. That's awesome. You're doing great things. I have one Funny question about sex life. You read this role Did you do any special sexy role research? You know? for this?

Unknown Speaker 35:11
Well, I knew my I knew everything that my character was gonna have in store for him for season one. So, I mean, they got it wasn't anything too too racy because Melissa and my mother watching my mother really couldn't watch the show because it she was she was just like, yeah, this is too much for her. But, yes, I knew there wasn't gonna be anything too crazy for my character. But if and when season two happens, I mean, all bets are off. Who knows? Who knows what what's gonna happen to Devon?

Unknown Speaker 35:42
Okay, I don't want you to give away anything. Actually. One of our former guests, UFC fighter, Hannah Goldie, she reached out and she was like, I love that show so much. So I know there are a lot of cross listeners right now that are excited for season two. But I want to talk about your life, your background, your upbringing, what was young Jonathan's like? Like, did you have that traditional mom and dad upbringing and who kind of gave you the the talk the birds and the bees talk?

Unknown Speaker 36:14
I yeah. I would say non traditional upbringing just because, like I grew up my family, but it was it was pretty crazy. My mom's grandmother came over from Sicily, and got this tiny apartment building in the Southside of Chicago that hadn't like it was literally like five units. And you know, the first floor was my dad's brother, his wife and my, my two cousins. Second floor rear was my mom's sister, her husband and my cousins. Second floor frog was my mom's parents forefront was my mom's mom's sister. And third floor rear was me and my my mom and dad and my two brothers. So it was like there was you never had privacy and it was just kind of an open door policy. It was a free for all and that fucking house. Literally, yeah. And but um,

Unknown Speaker 37:03
that's crazy. So just a huge

Unknown Speaker 37:05
brothers in my my family. Like, we didn't really like sex was kind of off the table. You know, I grew up Catholic. You know, my mom was in the choir. We were all altar boys. A church was across the street from my house. Oh, yeah. It was just kind of like sex was this taboo thing? Just like, didn't speak? No talk about? Yeah, so my dad never gave me a talk my brothers and I never really had this talk. It was just kind of like, you know, me and the hooligans I grew up with on the Southside of Chicago, just kind of like, yeah, figured it out. Educated ourselves.

Unknown Speaker 37:38
Yeah, I mean, there's, I've had plenty of guests on sometimes. Every once in a blue moon. It's like, yeah, my dad sat me down. But for the most part, it's, I watch TV. I, my older brother told me something and it's never really like, you know, what you see on TV? So you just probably learned through trial and error. Do you remember your first girlfriend you first kiss any of that stuff?

Unknown Speaker 38:01
I do. Yeah, remember this? We stuff we used to play. We call it going with somebody like oh, you know, your, your john and Sandy went with each other. That means like it made out. I remember. Yeah, we were in grade school. And that was actually I think that was my first kiss. This girl Sandy. She was a cheerleader. And we were all on the football team. And my buddy Roger, his dad, Roger school, he had a construction company. And he had this big sudden his backyard is like torture. After football practice. I call the guys would call the tool shed you like you'd make out with the girls. Laughter Yeah, so weird and gross. Now you think about it. You want to go fuck? You want to go out in the tool?

Unknown Speaker 38:50
I remember I lived on a cul de sac and we it was it sounds horrible. But there was like a really big bush because we were like kids you know like Middle School Elementary. And behind this giant bush is where you would like go and make out and I'm like, then I thought like later I'm like, What a weird place like let's go make out behind the bush kids. So as you get older, if you had to kind of summarize your your relationship history, you know where you traditionally a relationship guide you stay single for the most part. What was it like? Oh,

Unknown Speaker 39:33
fun. I just have a lot of fun. I definitely. I've gone from girlfriend to girlfriend typically but I I for sure had a good run in in college. When I moved to LA I was actually I was a bartender for a while when I came to LA

Unknown Speaker 39:54
bartender in LA Say no more. No lotto numbers there.

Unknown Speaker 40:02
Good times there, as you know, and it's crazy. I love my life. I love where I'm at in my life, you know, but the grass is always greener. And I was like, you know what I was like, I never ever lived through a time in my life when I was single with a dating app. Because I like, dude, I couldn't imagine having like a cell phone in college, let alone having, like Facebook or like, Tinder and all that stuff. You know, these kids today, ask these kids tonight.

Unknown Speaker 40:36
You're really not that much older than I am. I'm 34. And I really missed the dating app, just because when I was around, you know, obviously, a few years ago, I was a little bit younger, I was single. But I remember my first instance being on there and someone said, Oh, this is not the real actually, Evan Smith, she would never be on a dating app. And I felt shame. And so I like got off and I never went back. But I kind of like, I do regret not going back. Because I feel like the convenience is just unparalleled. I can't I can't imagine swiping left and right. So I'm not a part of that. I was never a part of that. Sounds like you weren't either, but I kind of jealous. I'm jealous. That seems it seems like dating is so easy for people nowadays.

Unknown Speaker 41:21
Yeah. I mean, let's, let's I just gotta be clear. I think that, quote, unquote, dating apps are just fucking, you know? Like, they're not dating apps. They're hookup apps. Let's Let's call a spade a spade. Yeah. So, you know, back in the day, when you wanted to go out and see where the night would leave, you had to go out get to go to a bar, you had to, like, build up this courage to go talk to somebody and, and there is a part of me that misses that courtship? You know? For sure.

Unknown Speaker 41:53
The chase the thrill, the chase. Yeah, for

Unknown Speaker 41:55
sure. And now it's just like, you know, you have this, this the power of Tinder at your fingertips. And, you know, if someone's like, Oh, I don't like I don't like that touch. You say you just stop talking. Nobody talk to one another fuckin 40 people in your inbox. You know,

Unknown Speaker 42:08
there's a lot of good and bad things about dating apps, I think and you said, like you said, like, a lot of them are just like, fuck apps, right, like hookup apps. But I do think there are a couple that are at least trying to market them themselves. As you know, real love is found here. Or I forget, I saw one the other day. It's like the dating app that's meant to be deleted, meaning like, we want you to find someone and then fucking delete us and never, you know, use us again. I'm like, okay, they're trying to market themselves as finding true love. Not just like, you know, fuck buddies, or whatever you want. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 42:41
I mean, I have I have more than a handful of friends who have met their brides on dating apps. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 42:50
Yeah, I mean, I feel like Instagram sometimes is a dating app. If someone just slides into your dm they're looking at your profile. Like, what's the difference? No. Do tell. Do tell Jonathan

Unknown Speaker 43:05
some for people out there.

Unknown Speaker 43:09
Are your DMS just blowing up with Digby.

Unknown Speaker 43:16
Women I mean, I have gotten videos sent to me that would that would make you blush.

Unknown Speaker 43:24
You got to be specific. What are what's the craziest one of the craziest do Oh God,

Unknown Speaker 43:31
God, I get videos of people masturbating. I like it's crazy. And it's like, also, it's like, What are you thinking? What's your end game here? Like, I'm just gonna drop my entire home life. Like I've been in a relationship. You know? for the better part of 11 years is like you gave us a drop everything and go. Oh, that girl that sent me the video of her on Instagram. That's the kind of girl I need to bring home to mom.

Unknown Speaker 43:59
Yes, yes. I've had this conversation with my girlfriends. And you know, a guy sends unsolicited dick pic. Right. And I think in his mind, the ideal scenario is Whoa, look at this dick. I gotta call this guy. It's just like, that's never I don't think that has ever worked in the history of big pigs, but they're gonna keep trying. Gonna keep trying.

Unknown Speaker 44:19
Absolutely. So just a fucking fact that people like do this stuff. It horrifies me. horrifies me. It makes me never want to have a daughter. Oh, yeah, son. It's me. Like, it's I yeah, I it drives me nuts like the kids the stuff that kids are doing these days. And it's uh, yeah,

Unknown Speaker 44:42
it's ridiculous. I mean, I think that just what we're talking about as far as trolling somewhere along the way, because there's a keyboard because there's all this room in between you people think that they can say or send whatever pictures or messages they want that they would never even dream of. Even sending it remotely similar in real life there's, there's no way someone would would say the things to Conor McGregor online that that you know in person as they do online, there's no way that girl would just flash your badge to you in real life, you know, just like she's doing online. It's fun I'd like to think.

Unknown Speaker 45:21
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Unknown Speaker 46:53
Yeah, you know, Melissa basically says it's legal cheating. Legal, every time. Every time I have to kiss somebody on screen. I guess it's legal cheating. Like it's not like that. It's like people a lot of people who aren't actors think that you know, we go in there and it's all passion and it's no it's it's literally called acting. Yeah. And it's not as sexy as as people make it out to be you know, you have like you're in a tiny room with all these bright lights on you and there's microphones here and microphones there and those camera guys there's makeup people there's like all these people watching like maybe if that's if that's kind of your fucking thing if you're in the people watching you get

Unknown Speaker 47:43
your guys

Unknown Speaker 47:46
so it is it is true. And also like you know, everything done today, we always have each Missy coordinators on set into coordinators, what is the coordinator? So an intimacy coordinator is exactly what it sounds like. Everything is completely choreographed. That way, there's no chance for the actor or the actress to to have anything inappropriate happen. So, so you basically know where you're going to kiss her, you know how you're going to catch her, you know, when your hands are going to be, you know, where you're going to touch her, you know, where you're not going to touch her, and vice versa. So everything is choreographed. It's very plotted out to make sure all actors feel safe on set. And just make sure it's not you know, creepy. Yeah, it can get it can get creepy. You know, pretty quick. penis. Yes. Yeah, we just make sure everybody's comfortable. And that's the role of the intimacy coordinator.

Unknown Speaker 48:45
Okay, got it. That's good to know. You just, I mean, I think even though it's probably such a small percentage, you hear like, you know, so and so got together on the set of this so you think I think us normies we think that if there's like an ons on camera, you know, romantic scene. It's like, oh, what did they do after the scene? We just picture all this passion, you know, but like you

Unknown Speaker 49:07
said, it's like, no, it's not like it's no, I've done your settings before and we're on a film set everybody pretty, pretty professional, you know? And yeah, it's just like I said, it's not it's not all that it's that people

Unknown Speaker 49:30
have there been any slip ups embarrassing moments you were supposed to grab here you actually grabbed here You were supposed to kiss this time you didn't get like you know like just you know, accidents but involving a kiss or a sexy and I mean, this is called sex and violence a rebel girl so I'm going to ask you about that stuff.

Unknown Speaker 49:47
No, no, no, that's and it was I've never had anything like that before. The the closest thing that the closest mishap that happened to me was when I was shooting movie with. It's called all relative and I was shooting with, with Connie Nielsen, wonderful actress Kannan Nielsen. And there was a scene where you're in bed, and we had this kind of a sex, you know, we had to like I had to, like, roll her over. And she completely crushed my junk like in regular real, like real, real, real bad. real bad, like, like tears in my eyes thought it had to go to the ER, my job, like, stop shooting for a minute, it was pretty brutal. And then the next day, the next day she like she came in with a present for me It opened up it was an athletic supporter, she got me a copy. I'm so sorry. It was it was pretty funny. But yeah, I love that. It's Yeah, everybody's usually pretty, pretty professional, there's not a whole lot of room for error when it comes to that stuff.

Unknown Speaker 50:48
Yeah, and you've made it to the point where you were on some very professional sets I've done like two or three small, I don't even know if you want to call them sets, just the lowest production, a friend of a friend needed somebody to fill in. And so I feel like as you get higher up in production, and you know, all these studios and stuff, you have people like the intimacy coordinator in order, you know, in place, there's not these things don't happen accidentally and stuff. But you know, ball shots happen in acting and sports, obviously. So we haven't touched on your current relationship. Sounds crazy. You've been together for 11 years, you're engaged Currently,

Unknown Speaker 51:30
we are engaged, we, you know, we, we have a very, very unique relationship where it's just we were not married. We love each other very much. We, we always say, we want to spend the rest of our lives together 50% of the time.

Unknown Speaker 51:52
Which is so healthy, because sometimes me and my partner, we will start to bicker. And I noticed I'm like that's because we haven't had a break from each other in like, two weeks with this whole pandemic thing. You know, we're both athletes, we enjoy the same things. We're always around each other. And I do think that it's very, very healthy to have some time apart. So that's kind of what you're implying, right? We want to spend the rest of our lives together, but 50% of the time.

Unknown Speaker 52:19
Yes, like right now. She's currently up in Santa Barbara. I'm at my house in LA. It's great. I love it. I love myself, I really do I get to cuddle with my dog. And, you know, it's like, sometimes he comes back to the house and I'll be like, I'm going to Toronto for four months. So it's like it shoots off and she's like, She's like, love it. And she gets the house herself. It is true what they say. It's like, you know, absence makes the heart grow fonder. For so long.

Unknown Speaker 52:47
That's on another level for months. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I understand the zoom

Unknown Speaker 52:52
and stuff like that. And yeah, it's, it's, we don't mind being apart from each other. We don't mind that we actually enjoy our space and we enjoy giving the other person their space.

Unknown Speaker 53:04
And as long as both people are that type of person, you know, you can't have somebody like me, I couldn't be able to do that. I wouldn't be able to do that. And then someone like you who's like no big deal. Come on, like suck it up. Like you just can't you know, but you found someone who is on the same wavelength with you. They understand like, Hey, you have your job. I have my job. And then, you know, when when our schedules align like we'll make it work out. That's awesome. Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker 53:28
Yeah, absolutely.

Unknown Speaker 53:30
So if sexting is sex through text message, what would sex through zoom be?

Unknown Speaker 53:38
A video sex?

Unknown Speaker 53:41
Do you guys do video sex? I mean, this is we've

Unknown Speaker 53:44
got we've got naughty All right, I've got it. We got to keep it fresh girl.

Unknown Speaker 53:47
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I would have to I would, I would totally do some zoom six. I would do like a zoom striptease for my boyfriend. I haven't had to I'm a clingy bitch, Jonathan, I just need to be around you like I like I have no relationship. I spend a lot of time with my dude. And you know, I'm very fortunate that my guy loves to spend a lot of time with me too. Every once in a while, like I said, will start bickering over small stuff. And I'm like, Alright, just go to jujitsu and I'm gonna go to muy Thai and a couple hours apart and then we miss each other, but everybody's different, right?

Unknown Speaker 54:24
We're like that, but we're like, okay, you leave for a week. So I'm gonna go I'm gonna go somewhere for a week

Unknown Speaker 54:32
that it works. Does she is she an actress as well? Does she have to leave and go

Unknown Speaker 54:36
not she does travel for work a lot though. She's, she's a fashion stylist, fashion stylist. That's awesome. Yeah, so she's like, She's like a celebrity stylist. And then she also you know, she does like commercial shoots that are first feature film but she does a lot of like personal like celebrity

Unknown Speaker 54:52
styling. And Is that how you guys met?

Unknown Speaker 54:55
We did not. We met at another inaccurate buddy of mines birthday party. She was, yeah, she's she's a really good dancer and she was on the dance floor. And it was like the middle of his warehouse was like 500 people there. And this DJ was playing and I saw her dancing and I told my buddy, I was there with at the time I was on the show shit my dad says, with with William Shatner, and will Sasso I was there with my buddy will. Awesome. He's great. And I was like, I like pointed to will. And I was like, dude, I was like, I need to go talk to her. And he's like, good luck.

Unknown Speaker 55:31
Yes, this is this is this is the stuff that young boys or girls don't do any more. Just that there's no balls needed to just go up and be like, Okay, I gotta go talk to this girl. Yeah, she's hot. She may turn me down.

Unknown Speaker 55:44
Yeah, and you're kind of like putting it all out there. You know? Yeah. So I walked up to her, and she was dancing with her friends. And her friends were like, there's this fucking creepy guy behind you. And she turned around. Go, I think you're really attractive. And we should talk. And say that I say that again. Away from me. Her friend, I told her I was like, I think you're like super adorable. And we should we should talk. And her friends like, grabbed her by the hand physically and like, dragged her away from me. Oh, she's like, I'm going to the bathroom. Don't leave. I'll be right back. So they like she like, runs to the bathroom. And I'm like, standing in the middle of the dance floor with like, my fucking whiskey by myself. like a like a complete deal, though.

Unknown Speaker 56:31
Just came back. And we chatted. And we went somewhere quiet. We like went and sat down and like this little corner of the of the party. And then, you know, we kind of talked all night and I had to leave and then she and I will she forcefully forcefully kissed me. face and she planted when I mean yeah, and we Yeah, we we actually consider our anniversary the night we met.

Unknown Speaker 57:05
I love that. Yeah, cute story. And I love that because nowadays it's most of the time. How'd you guys meet dating app dating app dating app, but there's no you know, cute meet meet cute, whatever it is like you guys

Unknown Speaker 57:18
got like kids today it's I said they haven't easy. It's like don't ever know like that feeling of like getting butterflies in your stomach and like, the balls it takes to go and talk to somebody and realize, you know, yeah, that nervousness that that that's I think it's such an important step in a relationship.

Unknown Speaker 57:33
Yeah, I love it. And and it's just, I guess there's some similarities to the first time you meet someone in real life as opposed to just texting with them online, but you pretty much sealed the deal by that point. You know, there's no, there's no risk involved. That person's unless you catfished him unless you put out pictures that aren't. Yeah, like that. And

Unknown Speaker 57:55
oh, my God, listen to this shit. You just reminded me. Oh, my god, you're talking about catfish. Yeah. And then what's your endgame? Yes, you would not believe how many people make fake profiles, pretending to be me. And sending DMS to like other women? Oh, no. And they're like, they're like pig like, and they're like, hey, it's John's lucky. Like, sorry, my manager. My management team caught. You know, they caught me dming people from my personal account, I got a lot of trouble for it. So I have to use this one now. And this fuckin asshole submit to my cousin. Who didn't know this girl was my cousin. Like my cousin Chris. He goes like, This is hilarious. He's like, he's like, I just think you're super cute. He's like, I'd love to. I love like, talk to you. And she's like, Oh, you think I'm super cute? Like for me the message but again, what is your endgame? Like you're gonna have to meet this person face to face you know? Obviously that you're not me.

Unknown Speaker 58:53
You know I feel like this is not a good thing but that's happened to me a couple times where my friends will screenshot someone pretending to be me you know we'll create a Ashlee Evans-Smith Instagram or Facebook or something and then they're just writing to people. And it's so weird but i think i top you I think the weirdest thing that happened to me one time was sitting that situation with people pretending to be you was someone created an entire foot wiki for me. Now if you don't know what a foot wiki is just like Wikipedia but for your feet and then someone just uploaded all these pictures because obviously I'm mixed martial artists I take a lot of pictures with no shoes on so there's hundreds of pictures actually now that I think about it we have me online with no shoes on and so we just created this like huge profile of just my feet. super weird.

Unknown Speaker 59:49
Yeah, that's almost like the one when this this fan of mine created a gay porn site with photoshopping my face onto a porn. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:02
Nevermind, you win. You win. Yes, please, please do send me some, some edited clips that fans have Photoshop

Unknown Speaker 1:00:12
it's pretty, pretty impressive.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:14
All right. Well, that's perfect segue. So where's one of the craziest spots you've ever had sex?

Unknown Speaker 1:00:21
Oh, what's one of the craziest spots I've had such?

Unknown Speaker 1:00:25
I mean, I don't know some people are, you know really adventurous and then other people are like you know a car and I'm like To each their own

Unknown Speaker 1:00:33
Yeah, like I mean I've had sex like while driving on the freeway. Oh wow I'll drive it probably wasn't yeah probably wasn't the safest thing

Unknown Speaker 1:00:46
never done that definitely never done that. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:49
I mean, I guess I'm more of a traditionalist I'm not like one of the guys who's like, oh, what's the weirdest fucking place? I'm gonna have sex? I'm like, don't do it. It's just like I think

Unknown Speaker 1:00:59
there have been some opportunities though sometimes right? where you're like, you drink especially if alcohol is involved. It's usually like we had sex in a bathroom somewhere or we were

Unknown Speaker 1:01:11
in a bathroom is not like crazy, you know?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:15
It's crazy to some people. Some people are pretty vanilla. Have Yeah, well, what's a pet peeve of yours in the bedroom? Sometimes people say things like hygiene. You know, someone's a little musty down there or a partner who's willing to get but not give if you know what I mean?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:33
Yeah. No, like, I don't mind. Like when when people start sweating in bed and stuff like that. That's actually kind of I don't I don't mind that at all. Like, don't be like hygiene. Yeah, like, don't be dirty. Like, like, yeah, it's like, what like, or you know, you go we'd like we just worked out or something like that. And he kind of have a wrap after that. That's fine. But like, maybe maybe like, if you haven't showered for three days. We're starting to get into. I don't want to, I don't want to be in but I cannot stand pain in the bedroom. Okay. So like biting nails on my back. I keep that shit home like that. Like, keep that keep that shit in your toolbox. Yeah, not that is not for me. I do not like it like literally got a visceral reaction.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:24
You're like, I'm here to have a good time. I don't want my fight or flight reaction to try and go off. Yeah. Okay, so yes,

Unknown Speaker 1:02:31
I'm also more like, I am much more of a sadist.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:34
I am a masochist. Okay, so

Unknown Speaker 1:02:35
it's like, like, I am not the one who like I don't want to be tied down. I don't I like I'll tie you up. But I am not the one to be tied up. Like I'm much more like the status than that in that perspective.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:46
You just want to be in control of the situation.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:50
No, it's not even being in control the situation I have no problem like, giving that control up. But when it comes to pain, pain and stuff like that. I am not into it. Like

Unknown Speaker 1:03:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has there ever been a time where a girl she tried to get a little aggressive whether it was biting her nails or hair pulling? Gotta hate

Unknown Speaker 1:03:12
100% What

Unknown Speaker 1:03:14
do you got to friggin like, put the foot down. How do you say?

Unknown Speaker 1:03:17
Grab them by the looks of dead in the eyes and go do not fucking do that again.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:25
Alright, perfectly clear. Not through that

Unknown Speaker 1:03:27
again. Like, like, who fucking enjoys their skin being scraped off their fucking back.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:34
Hey, I have a sex podcast. Jonathan. I've heard some shit. And you know what? I'm not here to. I'm not here to judge I do not kink shame. But I'm always like, always intrigued because yeah, like there's to me there's a line but everybody has a different line and some people's line like yours is like you start to scratch the surface. Right? Okay, we're done. And then some people their line is way far and they like to bleed and they like different things. And

Unknown Speaker 1:04:01
yeah. That's gonna get you fucking all fired up. I'm happy to I'm happy to get you off. But me personally. Not.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:11
Right. All right.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:13
Like you asked me to. You know, spank you sure I'll fucking if that's gonna get you fired up. It is my I am a giving lover. Whatever. Get you going? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:26
Do you remember ever being asked to do something like weird or out of the normal that you were like, Whoa, like, I can't wait to tell my friends about anything. Did you do it? also

Unknown Speaker 1:04:42
have I ever? No, I don't think so. No, nothing like too crazy. I mean, there was some there was some interesting requests and like a threesome and stuff like that. That's crazy. No, no just like kind of hot. You know? Nothing like huh like you should like Let's unpack this one together. You know,

Unknown Speaker 1:05:02
I think of like, actors, Hollywood, I think like threesomes are like the norm was that Is that normal? Like?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:10
No, that actually happened with bartending.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:12
Oh, yeah. Anything can happen when you're bartending

Unknown Speaker 1:05:16
in the bar. And I was, whoa,

Unknown Speaker 1:05:18
see? Okay, that wins. That's the craziest place in the bar that you are working at. Right?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:23
Yeah. After after we close. I had everybody kicked out of the barn. That was a that was a good night.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:32
Yeah, that's exciting. Because like, technically, you could have got fired, you know what I mean? So there's that risk.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:37
Well, I had to stay because I was like, shooting I remember I was I was during the holiday season. And I was actually recurring role in this other show. So I couldn't go to the staff holiday party, they all went up to like, first castle, and I couldn't go to the staff holiday party because I had to work the next day. So I was the only person there to keep the bar open. And then they were all gone. And you know what, it was a great Christmas party for me.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:02
Fuck you guys. I had a good time. Anyway, that's awesome. I actually, I don't think I told you this. The Times that we've talked but I was I'm a big fan of your role in young and hungry. I watched that. And it just it was like not my normal type of show is kind of cutesy and I was like, I'm not gonna like this. I was just, I think I found it during the pandemic. I was just flipping and I you know, during the pandemic, I think everybody had watched everything on Netflix at one point because what the fuck else were we going to do? And I tried it and I just loved that show. Like, you know, that's really good. You play a billionaire with a heart of gold basically. And you fall in love with your your hot chef, and it was a great show. I liked it.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:43
That was that was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun to share. Plus, whatever you do, I thoroughly enjoyed doing like the multi camera sitcoms, because you get to perform in front of a live audience and the tape knighthood is so much fun. And yeah, that was a that show was a hell of an era for my life.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:01
And now you are starring as Devin and sex life. I'm really excited. I haven't had a chance to to get in there yet. I've been traveling and then kind of getting back on track. We had two guests cancel. So you are coming through and everybody is super happy that we're getting to learn about you and your sex life. Not the show, but your actual sex. And now it's time for the lightning sex round.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:30
We found a lot of found out a lot about you and your sex life, but this rapid fire 14 questionnaire is meant to just kind of dig a little bit deeper. Are you ready?

Unknown Speaker 1:07:42
Let's do it.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:43
Okay, lightning round with Jonathan. Do you dirty talk in bed? Sure. Spank or like to be spanked?

Unknown Speaker 1:07:51
I'm a giver.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:54
He will spank but don't don't you spank him biting.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:59
If you want me to bite you, but don't bite me. Okay, choking. I mean, like, again, I don't like being choked. If you ask me to grab, you're not sure I'll grab. Yeah. And like I said, whatever if that gets you going? Sure.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:13
Got it. threesomes Yes. Do you watch porn? I do. Any fetishes like feet?

Unknown Speaker 1:08:21
No. I think I think feet our feet are sexy. I'm a leg. I love legs. I love sexy legs.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:29
legs. Yeah, yeah, I honestly I am not a kink. shamer but every time we ask about feet, it just I'm like, I don't know. Does it do it for me, but

Unknown Speaker 1:08:37
doesn't know for me that like I'm like, some people are like, Oh my god, her feet. I'm like, that's not my thing.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:43
Whatever floats your boat. Alright, what about any fetish? Like bodily fluids? No, no. bondage like ropes. blindfolds, handcuffs.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:54
I have tied people up. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:57
Any role? role playing as an actor? Do you ever roleplay in bed?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:02
No, but I tell I can tell good dirty stories like that. Sometimes people like to hear stories.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:07
Yeah, yeah. So Oh, so you I thought you're telling me right now I thought

Unknown Speaker 1:09:12
oh, no, no, no, no. I was restoring your you're ever getting down? Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:16
All right. Yeah, I love I love dirty talk. And the more descriptive like adjectives are good, you know, like, the more descriptive you can be during dirty talk is absolutely All right. And then but stuff on you or a partner.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:33
Oh, man.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:36
This one's throws everybody Don't worry, Jonathan. We're just like, joking. Three subs but stuff. Everyone's like, whoa, whoa. But stuff Ashley. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:45
I'm Chuck a lot of autism. not my thing. But whatever gets you going.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:54
Got it? Do you use sex toys? Oh, yeah, for sure. ever been to a sex club or a swinger party.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:00
Never been but I've talked about

Unknown Speaker 1:10:03
it. All right. And then are you a lingerie lover?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:06
I don't mind it. I don't I like, I'm not like, oh, let's put some laundry on tonight. But sometimes it's a pleasant surprise like, Oh, that's hot. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:15
yeah, yeah. I recently had my boyfriend send me a I got

Unknown Speaker 1:10:22
my boyfriend put on like,

Unknown Speaker 1:10:23
oh my god no. Actually, you know it's funny you say that is um, so we Okay, basically I was like how much do you love me babe? would you do this? And he was like, Yeah, I was like, would you do this? And he was like, Yeah, I wouldn't. I was like, wow. Then I was like, would you would you put lingerie on? And he was like, Fuck no. And I was like, oh, okay, that was a good lightning sex round. We're gonna just move straight on into Fuck, marry kill

Unknown Speaker 1:10:58
one marry one kill one go. I think we're done. We're done here.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:01
Are you ready?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:03
Let's do it.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:04
Okay, so fuck, Marry, Kill. I'm gonna give you three names. You got to decide who you want to fuck, who you want to marry and who you want to kill? You have the 90s sitcom version. And this is a hard one because there's some babes on here. So Kelly kapowski from Saved by the Bell. Kelly Bundy married with children. And Hilary banks from Fresh Prince. Oh. DJ sounds like I'm fucking stumped. Yeah. All babes.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:34
Wait, Hillary bass. Why can I place that one?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:38
Fresh Prince of Bel Air. She was the very

Unknown Speaker 1:11:41
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes. That's Oh, she was smoking too. Yeah. All right. Alright. Fuck.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:51
It's a hard one. I know. I couldn't give you like one baby one one ugly chick. And you know, like, I had to make it hard.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:01
I probably have to fuck. Kelly Bondi. I'd have to marry Kelly kapowski. Yeah. And I have to kill Karen Pierce. PARSONS. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:19
Well, I mean, understandable. You definitely don't want to marry Kelly Bundy because she was like, dumb as

Unknown Speaker 1:12:23
a rock. bucket bucket.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:27
bucket. Me and my guy are actually binge watching Married with Children right now.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:31
You know what? Maybe Wait, maybe this maybe maybe I thought maybe I fuck Hilary banks. I marry Kelly kapowski. And I killed Kelly Bondi because like she is covered in a boxer.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:44
Yeah, she is. She's great. Okay, all right. Good job. And then lastly, we end with fan questions. These are real questions from your fan. And fans of the show. Ready? Yes. Okay, at Irwin, underscore 87. What's your greatest accomplishment?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:10
Um, what's my greatest accomplishment? I think that for me, being able to own a home in Los Angeles, that I paid that I paid for with my with my career.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:30
slow clap.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:32
Yeah, that I that I that I was able to earn a home in Los Angeles with acting, writing and producing.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:40
Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. And actually, I was thinking about this because you were like, Yeah, I was bartending. And then I was acting. And I remember the day that I quit my bartending and serving job because the UFC called me on two weeks notice and was like, do you want to fight? And and I said, Yes. But I knew at that moment, I had to become just a professional athlete. I couldn't work a side job anymore. And it was scary. And eventually, you know, it paid off. But I was thinking to myself as you were talking about your bartending job, like I wonder at what point in his career, he was like, Alright, I am just now. Just an actor.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:16
Well, it was I remember, I remember the exact time it happened. I I want to booking there was one week I booked like the lead of a fox pilot. I sold my first screenplay that I wrote, and you're writing cool. Yeah, yeah. So I bought Yeah, but read about Fox TV show. I booked a new pilot. I sold my first screenplay that I wrote with my writing partner, Ben from college. And then I also booked that movie. She's the man that I was at. Yeah. And then all that all happened within like a week of each other. Oh, so I so once that happened, I was like, Okay, I have a nice little little nest egg in my in my bank account now and I I'm going to dedicate my life to this full time.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:03
That's it. That was a while ago because she's the man came out in the early 2000s. Right?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:08
Yeah, yeah. So I've been doing this since. I mean, I've been working as an actor. Full time since 2004. ish. Fine. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:19
Cool. Well, you're killing it now. Okay, at Pat Kenny. Was there ever an actress in a movie or TV show that you start in that you were super excited to kiss in that movie or show?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:31
Um, who was I super excited to kiss? Yeah, cotton Nielsen was pretty that was pretty exciting to guess. And that was that movie all relative. I did Tommy's great choice. Well, of course, I got a huge, I got a huge crush on her from Gladiator.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:47
Okay, nice. at Austin artemus dream role and dream co star female or mail?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:57
This I've gotten this question a lot. And I honestly don't have a dream role. Because the way I the way I look at it with acting is I get excited when I read something and I go, this is what I want to do next. So I don't necessarily manifest like, Oh, I want to be Superman, or Oh, I want to be James Bond. That would be cruel to play a superhero. It'd be cool to play a spy. But like I never knew that Devin existed in you know, until I read that script. And I was like, this has to be my next project. So I look forward to reading stuff that that's that I get to put all my eggs in one basket and go this is the next thing for me.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:33
Awesome. I like that. Yeah, a lot of people ask that. Who is your dream matchup? Fight wise, right? And I'm like, I don't really know. All I know is I want to fight. I want to I want to I want my opponent to be someone that we're going to fight and then they say oh, I gotta watch that fight over again. I just want entertaining fight. Yeah, you know, like obviously I want to win to like a flash knockout. Yeah, but like, I want to be like on top most exciting fights. I want to be on those highlight reels.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:01
Yeah. And I will say though, for who I would love to coaster. Yeah, I mean, he It's a shame the world lost him but Robin Williams would have been

Unknown Speaker 1:17:13
Oh, don't even I'm gonna cry. He was my favorites. Actually. Yeah, he was a real life Patch Adams basically he went to children's hospitals during Christmas time and my mother's boyfriend at the time her son was dying of cancer and he met him and really did the whole thing went in there on Christmas. And so I just love love Robin Williams from bottom my heart that was so sad.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:38
Yeah, he he's wonderful. He was great. And I would have loved to have been able to just stand on the sat with him and kind of watch him do what he does.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:48
On a lighter note at Gillian James 93. What would your fighter nickname be if you were a fighter?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:56
What would my fighter name be? How is a fighter?

Unknown Speaker 1:18:00
Why did they call them wrestling? Sadowsky?

Unknown Speaker 1:18:04
I don't know. Maybe? Maybe south side. How about that? Oh. I like it. You've got that one.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:15
I always thought it'd be funny a tongue in cheek nickname because my name My mom always call me growing up and I fucking hated it. I used to get made fun of for but like the neighborhood that I'll be like, all the other kids would call me precious. My mom would be like yeah hated Oh, no. Yeah, I think it's kind of a tongue in cheek nickname. Like precious. No.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:34
Yeah, but now as you're older and as a fighter like precious sadowski Jonathan precious Adele ski. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:40
Now, I think it's got to be Southside.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:44
Okay, last fan question at underscore Ken underscore p Would you rather go a year with no sex or one night in the octagon with Ashley Smith? The hard hitting questions Jonathan.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:03
I love you to death

Unknown Speaker 1:19:06
okay. I need to come Ashley just punching me. Got it. Okay, good. I yeah, I would fight for you know that too. Okay. I ask each guest that we have on because it's always fun to know, who would you like to hear next as a guest on sex and violence? It could be a fighter and actor. You know, we basically have on experts in their field and whatever it is, so you you legit

Unknown Speaker 1:19:34
have on, you know who you should have on who's a friend of mine and he's fucking amazing. Who's he's another. He's another actor. He was on the TV show kingdom. My boy Jonathan Tucker.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:44
Oh, you know, we've actually thought about that because Frank Trigg is a friend of mine, and he was on that show. And so yeah, I made this giant list of like, you know, Dream guests and stuff like that, and he's on that list, but all right, I'm just gonna call in a favor, my friend. Precious wants to sell science outside. sadowski. Okay, Jonathan, I got to ask you, where can we follow your career? Whether it's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook? Actually, yeah, I saw your back on Facebook. So I've been stalking you.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:15
So yeah, my Facebook again. I only have two accounts. I have one on Facebook and Instagram, they are both verified with my blue check. So please know if there's no pre check. It is not me. And I also do all of my DNS so fire away.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:30
Yeah, I love that about you because I do the same thing. Unless it's, you know, an unsolicited dick pic. I'm not going to answer. I will answer back but yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it when people are very transparent with their fans. And it's it's super cool. And you're very down to earth person. You're super involved in the MMA community. Thank you so much for doing the show. I'm gonna binge watch sex life and stay up to date with you. And is there anything else you want to plug before you go?

Unknown Speaker 1:20:56
This is it. This has been a blast. Ash. Thank you so much for having me on.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:00
Thank you. Okay, talk to you soon, Jonathan. Same credit card. Power. Next time. around. Same credit card. Some time, but a great episode. I love that. I'm so happy to be back with you guys. I know you guys can't talk back. But I know you're happy. If you're tuning in. I really, really appreciate it. Our downloads declined last couple of weeks because hey, we didn't put any content out. But stay tuned guys. We've got a whole list of interesting guests. Next week. We've got Abigail Mack adult film star. She came highly recommended from our friend Kendra lust who's been on the podcast before. You know, I'm just really excited to talk to more people, whether it's fighters or actors or adult film stars. It's gonna be a great end of the year. Yeah, as always, don't forget to check out the website that's up and running. www sex violence with rebel girl calm, pick up a shirt or a hat, whatever. Just, you know, support the show. Tune in and keep listening. If you don't want to buy anything, that's fine too. you tuning in sending in your fan questions every every week. It's so so awesome. Thank you guys so much. I love you guys. Huge special thank you to audio engineer DJs all at DJs Oh, tomorrow kids studio at tomorrow kids official and you can always find us on Instagram at sex and violence with rebel girl and myself at Ashley MMA. I hope you guys enjoyed this week's show. I missed you so much. Remember guys, Be kind, be grateful. But don't take shit from anyone. See you guys next week with more tales of sex and violence.

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