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Ep.84 Cassie "The Joker" Robb

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Sex and Violence Hey guys, welcome back to sex and violence rebel group where we interviewed top level MMA fighters and other experts in their fields about love. romance in that altered taboo subject. I'm your host Ashley, rebel girl, Evan Smith. Now let's talk about sex what's happening the hot stuff? What is up all my naughty listeners we're back. I'm so sorry that we missed last week. But you know I wouldn't leave you hanging unless it was for a very very good reason. And I had my reasons I can't share them with you just yet. But stay tuned. I will I will let you know I know that sounds very ominous but it's exciting good news. We had Tabitha Baby shark Ricci hope I'm saying her name right. She's Brazilian and former teammate of mine. So I should say it right. But she was scheduled to be on the podcast last week. The one that we missed. She's great sport she already rescheduled for I believe it was March 10 or 17th. Anyway, mid March, we will talk to UFC strawweight Tabitha Baby shark Ricci or Reesie. VC? Maybe? I don't know. So yeah, guys, sorry about that. But yeah, let's let's talk about what's going on with you what's going on with me? Let's see this last week. I watched that Tinder swindler? Did you watch that? DJ? Oh. Yeah, I wanted to wait until we got on. I am so sad. After I watched the tinder swindler guides. It's on Netflix right now. Check it out, basically. Yeah, I'd say. Yeah. So there's this dude, I forget what his original country is. If it was like Iran, Israel. This Israel, Israeli guy, he basically cons these women out of their money. He uses one women's money to fund wining and dining the next woman and he just, he's really good at what he does. I don't want to give it away. But it's pretty fucked up. It really is. And at the end, he actually gets caught. Sorry, spoiler alert. But he only does fucking five months, five months, five months of time, and he like conned women out of millions of dollars. 64,000,060 $4 million, you know, estimated and, you know, I'm just so sad because you know, they have all this proof and he only did five months. And the most fucked up part like legs all said he's back on Tinder.

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So that doesn't make you feel any less scared to online date? You know, I don't know what would so be careful, guys. If you're out there on Tinder or any dating app, just there should be some. I don't know safety precautions in place. And, and this guy, I don't even blame the women. You know, it's not like they were dumb. He was really good at what he did. And it just makes it seems so much more scary to be out there in the dating world guy. So be careful. Yeah, this weekend. Let's see. So tonight, I'm actually really excited. The boyfriend and I are going to something called Lucia voom. I don't know if you guys have heard of that. It is a wrestling and burlesque show in one. So like high flying flips, like crazy wrestling, jumping off the ropes. And then two seconds later, you know, dada dada, like, you know, ladies with tassels on their boobies and doing dances. And it was it's exciting. I've been once, maybe twice before. Shout out to Sergio. He works for luta Baboom. And he always hooks us up with tickets. He actually same guy who does all the really cool punk rock themed graphics for us all the time that you guys see on our Instagram, if you check us out at sex and violence with rebel girl on Instagram. So yeah, so I'm going to that tonight. And then the fights are Saturday tomorrow. It's gonna be really exciting. And I've been a homebody lately, but I'm actually going to go watch them with my friend Dan Kenny, who was on the podcast before I forget what episode if you guys want to hear, check that episode out. I'll put that in the show notes. But yeah, he's in his brother's in town. And I just love their family so much. So I'm going to go down they live in Temecula. His brother is up in Pacifica, but he's Actually in town, so I'm going to go watch the fight with those guys, some of my best friends in the world. Yeah. And I know, I know, I keep saying this every week, but I'm apologizing. Spotify is still not working, we are working in combination with Spotify and Buzzsprout, which is our hosting platform, we are now all three trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Because I know some of you guys are listening to this podcast on Spotify, and you're saying what the fuck works fine for me. But then others you're listening on Apple or Stitcher or Amazon music or iHeart, radio or Pandora or whatever it is. And you're, you know, maybe that was your favorite platform before. So we apologize, we're trying to get it fixed. I really don't know what's going on. But we're working on it so that you guys know that. And then there's some big news, we are most likely I can't say 100%. cameo. Can't say 100% That. This is for real. But we are probably going to be next month on a hosting platform, a very I mean, streaming service, a very large streaming service. So stay tuned, that does not mean that this podcast is going to be exclusive to that streaming service. That just means that there will be another way for you guys to listen. So I know that's kind of like I said,

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I'm not giving you too much information. But I just want you guys to know that big things are happening. And I'll tell you when everything is finalized. Last thing I want to say before we talk about the fights is Please rate and review the podcast it's very important to us we want to move up in those charts so that more people can see and hear the show. All you got to do is write a quick little review give us a review of one star two star hopefully five star review. And we appreciate it very much if you guys want some stickers, just screenshot that review. Send it to our Instagram at sex and violence with rebel girl and your address and we will mail you a free sticker. Yes, yes. I said okay, so let's talk about the fights. The fights tomorrow UFC 271 It is Adesanya vs Whitaker number two, the Octagon returns to Houston's Toyota Center for a 15 fight pay per view card top buy a middleweight championship rematch in UFC 270 ones headliner reigning champion Israel out of Sanya looks for a third straight successful title defense when he takes on Robert Whittaker. The man is he took the belt from back in 2019. The CO main event is a potential slugfest between heavyweight knockout artists, artists, Derrick Lewis and Ty to Vyasa. Gotta love that guy with all his shoe ease. There's also a pivotal middleweight battle between contenders Jared Cannoneer and Derek Brunson with a title shot potentially at stake for the winner. And then rounding out the main card are bantamweights Kyler Phillips and Marcello Roho as well as lightweights Bobby green and nazara hyperfast, the prelims this is kind of a longer list so bear with me we got Andre Arlovski vs. Jared Mandara Alex Perez vs mash Nell, Roxanne moto farI in her retirement fight goes up against Casey O'Neil King Casey O'Neill. That's probably the fight that I'm looking to looking forward to the most. Then we have William Knight versus Max Grisham. Leo mana Martinez versus Ronnie Lawrence Alexander Hernandez versus Hinata McConnell, Carlos Carlos Oberg vs Fabio Shirat AJ Dodson vs. Jacob Macoun Douglas Silva Dion Josh vs. Andre Moroso and Jeremiah wells vs. Mike blood Dion Blood Diamond Muthiah and Blood Diamond actually trained with him at Timo Yama a few years back, he's making his UFC debut. He's also from a sanyes team. And I believe that Carlos Oberg is also from Addison his team, so we'll see how their team does tomorrow night. Alright guys, you can always email us that is sex and violence. And you guys can check out our website sex violence with rebel girl calm, not sex and violence, just sex violence with rebel You try to buy something on the website or you can email us about anything you want. If you have a guest suggestion, if you want us to ask somebody a question on the podcast if you have a story you want to share, or if you want to sponsor the podcast, now really is the time to do it, guys. When we join that major streaming service that I'm talking about. You're going to want to be a sponsor, the more eyeballs are going to be or ears, eyeballs and ears are going to be on the show and you get your brand out there, your company, whatever it is you want to promote, hit us up and like I said, you can email us sex and violence And let's talk about some of our other sponsors we currently have. I'm so excited guys. Okay, and I say guys, not the girls. Sorry ladies, this one's not for you. This one is for all my listeners with some whiskers. You know, like mutton chops, a goatee mustache? A full mint. No, no one has full men shoes anymore. But about like a side beard or a neck beard or just a good old fashion. You know, face beard. This is for you guys. We are now in partnership with the best facial hair oil in the business. And they're called Rebel apothecary. How fitting is that? It's perfect, right? We didn't even plan that these guys are the best. They're the best beard oil in the game. And they I know this because not because I have a beard. But I know many hairy men jujitsu guys MMA fighters, and I've given this product to them. And they said it's great. It keeps your face maintained. And it smells good too. Guys, please check them out. They are a family owned and operated business. And you can use our discount code rebel to get 25% off your entire order. Find them on Instagram at rebel dot apothecary or online at rebel Check them out rebel apothecary beard oil.

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but you ain't had mine. Okay, we are here with Cassie. The Joker. Rob. Cassie. I am so excited to have you on. You and I have been talking back and forth for some time now. It's finally happening. Thank you for being

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happening. Thank you for having me. You

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know, it's, you know, I really wanted to have you on and I try to space out guests appropriately. So like I tried to do like, you know, MMA fighter, bare knuckle comedian, porn star. And I feel like I've had so many Bare Knuckle people on and but yeah, there's finally finally we found a spot for you. So thank you for coming on Yeah. And so yeah, so let's talk right away about you know, the violence aspect of sex and violence you are currently signed to bare knuckle is that correct? I am. Okay. So I mean, I stopped you I did my research. You've been a pro since 2013. So you know, you're not new to this game. You've been doing mixed martial arts for a while. Why bare knuckle?

Unknown Speaker 15:49
Um, honestly, I just kind of wanted to try it out. Like I've been talking to them for a while. I mean, a couple years ago, I think they asked me to do it. And I was like, I don't know, man, that's, that's kind of crazy. But I came off with like, a two and a half year retirement when I went to barber school and I was like, well, if I'm gonna make come back, I'm gonna do like the biggest thing. So, no, just give it a shot.

Unknown Speaker 16:13
Okay. I mean, you unfortunately, lost your debut to taste darling. That was about six months ago. Do you have anything lined up for the future?

Unknown Speaker 16:22
I do. I mean, I'm still kind of waiting on the contract for it, but it should be pretty soon.

Unknown Speaker 16:28
So you can't give us any day. Okay. All right. Well, we'll check back in with you. So, I mean, you retired a few years ago, you're back now. What's the future look like? Do you want to do one more fight 10 more fights.

Unknown Speaker 16:45
I always said that. I was going to retire on as 35. But I mean, I don't know. I still have a lot in me. And I kind of considered maybe trying Bare Knuckle MMA as well.

Unknown Speaker 16:55
Okay, so game bred FC.

Unknown Speaker 16:58
Um, yeah, that would be dope.

Unknown Speaker 17:01
I mean, I think as the only the only Bare Knuckle MMA organization that I know of

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them. Well, they have one here in Colorado, but oh, I think actually, I think they put them on in Cheyenne if I'm not mistaken, but what's the name

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of that promotion?

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The Sparta combat League,

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Sparta combat Leo hop. Check them out. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 17:23
So I did a tournament for them, I think is back in like 2017 or something. So it was like a boxing fight and then kickboxing fight if you want that. And then the final one was an MMA fight.

Unknown Speaker 17:35
Oh, wow. So yeah. tournament style all in one night. Three different sports. Yep. That's crazy. How did that go for you?

Unknown Speaker 17:45
Um, I didn't make it past the first one. But I guess one of the girls like, got sick during her weight cut or something. So they flipped a coin for one of us to fight twice and I fought back to back I fought my ex wife and then I fought again. Like five minutes after that.

Unknown Speaker 17:59
You fought your ex wife? Yeah. Wow. Okay. We got to dive into that. So you've been married before, too? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 18:08
Yeah. Stephanie Skinner? Stephanie.

Unknown Speaker 18:11
Oh, I've heard that name. What is her nickname?

Unknown Speaker 18:14
The scrapper.

Unknown Speaker 18:16
Oh, no, no, no. Maybe I'm thinking. I'm thinking of a Stephanie. egg egg nick or something like that? Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Okay. Stephanie Skinner? How long were you married?

Unknown Speaker 18:27
I'm not very long. We were together for like four years. But we yeah, we trained together a lot. I mean, that whole time. So fighting was honestly kind of fun. Like there. I didn't have any animosity towards her or anything. But we have a very, very similar fighting style. And, you know, we've trained together for so long that we we know how to make an exciting fight for sure.

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And you fought after you were already divorced.

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Oh, yeah. Okay.

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It had been a couple years. Wow. All right. That's, that's wild. So I asked everyone on the show about their sexuality and then their current dating status. So how do you identify sexually? And are you single in relationship?

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I identify as bisexual. I'm not in a relationship right now. I actually just got out of one. But yeah, I'm kind of like over dating for a while. I think I just want to train and focus on myself.

Unknown Speaker 19:19
And you've been married once before. So does that. I mean, I've never been married. But you know, I feel like that can be take a little bit of wind out of your sails once you go through a divorce, and absolutely try to get back into the dating scene. Uh huh. For sure. So now you're just trying to focus on fighting and bare knuckle. Yep, that's it. All right. Well, I want to know kind of like where you were born and raised and, you know, kind of dig into your background a little bit and you know how you became the badass that you are now.

Unknown Speaker 19:56
So yeah, I was born and raised in Casper, Wyoming. I live in Denver now. So it's like three and a half hours from my hometown. But uh, yeah, I don't know, I just, I started going to MMA fights locally. And usually it was guys fighting. I saw a girl that I played volleyball against back in like ninth grade or something. I saw her fight and I was like, what? They can do that. Let Girls do that. So I told all my friends and everything I wanted to do, and he's like, You're crazy. Like you're too pretty to fight. Like, you're gonna get beat up. You're tiny and like, so like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try it watch. And I don't know, I didn't really think I was gonna stick with it that long. But I did it a couple times. And I just loved it.

Unknown Speaker 20:38
Yeah, here you are almost a decade later, right?

Unknown Speaker 20:41
I know. Well, I think so. I started when I was 19. I'll be 32 this year. So yeah, almost like 13 years.

Unknown Speaker 20:48
Oh, wow. Okay. All right. Yeah, going off your pro record. But yeah, you were training before that? Right. Yeah. Wow. All right. So you're born and raised in Casper, Wyoming? What was? What was it like growing up? And Did you always know that you were bisexual? Because I'm thinking, you know, is that a smaller town?

Unknown Speaker 21:08
is I mean, it's about the size of Cheyenne. It's like 50,000 people or something like that. It's not. Not crazy small. But um, yeah, I don't know. People are kind of a little more judgmental there. Yeah. Honestly. Yeah. I mean, for my family and everything. I didn't get any, any shade from it. But you know, everybody else around you has a different opinion. But I didn't I mean, I didn't think I always knew I just kind of it just happened. Like, I just saw this girl that I was attracted to on time. And I was like, hmm, I might be into that.

Unknown Speaker 21:39
What is that?

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Um, I think like 18 or 19.

Unknown Speaker 21:47
Okay, so not super young? No. Hmm. All right. And what was your kind of first first experiences with sex like or dating when you were young? Did someone explain you know, dating to you? Or were you close with your family? Did they kind of have like the talk with you?

Unknown Speaker 22:06
I kind of found out from my friends. I think, like all them just would always talk about that kind of stuff. And I think my grandma asked me one time, like, if I knew what the birds and bees were seven, I was like, Yeah, I don't want to have that. You know, and I had to take sex ed and stuff like that. So I'm like, I'm not stupid. I figured it out.

Unknown Speaker 22:25
Yeah. All right. Do you remember your first girlfriend or your first boyfriend?

Unknown Speaker 22:31
Um, my first boyfriend, like real boyfriend, like, probably in high school. I think that was like, my first serious relationship. And I dated him for, like, four years or something like that. And then, yeah, I remember my first girlfriend. I don't talk to her anymore, though.

Unknown Speaker 22:50
That's right. Who does? Right. So what were those relationships? Like when you were younger, compared to now? You know, obviously, you know, we grow we learn. There's a lot of things that we wouldn't put up with today that we used to put up with, right.

Unknown Speaker 23:05
Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I mean, I that's pretty much what I'd say. I just learned to not put up with a lot of stuff. I mean, I was a kid when I was dating back then. You know, you learn more about yourself growing up and what you'll allow to continue and what you need from people.

Unknown Speaker 23:20
Yeah. What are some things that you used to put up with back then that you wouldn't? You wouldn't today?

Unknown Speaker 23:25
Cheating? Oh,

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is that? Was that a big part of your dating history growing up?

Unknown Speaker 23:34
Yeah, I've had a lot of people cheat on me. So it kind of, you know, made me have trust issues and stuff. But that's why I'm kind of learning just to focus on myself and not really put, like, not trying to seek that validation from somebody else.

Unknown Speaker 23:48
Yeah, yeah. That's, you know, I think I've been cheated on one time that I know of, you know, and I'm sure it's happened more than that. But I do think, Yeah, unfortunately, people have, you know, certain people have much more experience with cheating than others. And, you know, you kind of like, ask yourself along the way, like, Why do I end up continually, you know, being with cheaters? You know, do you ever ask, do you know if that was a big part of your, of your experience? Have you ever asked yourself, like, do I attract a cheater, you know, is it me?

Unknown Speaker 24:22
I think that I just try to fix people that I'm like, going to be that person that like, changes somebody, you know, I mean, and like, you can't change people unless they want to change themselves. And then if you really love somebody, you don't really want them to change. Yeah, you

Unknown Speaker 24:35
know, yeah. How did you meet these people in the past? I mean, online dating is relatively newer, but you know, so maybe not when you were younger, but, you know, where did these people come from before? Was it, you know, school or sports or work,

Unknown Speaker 24:51
school and then I think I met that girl at a party or something at a party at my house. And I don't know You remember who she was mutual friends with, but she ended up coming over and I was like,

Unknown Speaker 25:04
she's hot. Are there and this was when you were

Unknown Speaker 25:09
younger? Yeah, that was about when I was like 18 or 19. All right. What about I started partying a lot.

Unknown Speaker 25:16
Oh, so that was that part was partying a big part of your life.

Unknown Speaker 25:20
I'm not until college. And then I dropped out of college to be MMA fighter. Oh, wow. Yeah, I know. Here we are. Here we

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go. You were thinking about going back?

Unknown Speaker 25:33
Um, I thought about it. But I got myself through barber school. So I mean, I have that too. I cut hair on the side. So

Unknown Speaker 25:42
Oh, no. So besides fighting, you also cut hair? Mm hmm. All right. And then I also know that you're a dancer, a stripper? Yep. I have a plethora of questions I want to ask you. Perfect. So, you know, basic ask question. How did you get into stripping? You know, everyone's path is different.

Unknown Speaker 26:04
I feel like I just kind of was fed up with this job. I was working out like, it was just sketchy. And I kind of just, you know, however, I feel like every woman at one point says in their head, like, you know, Screw this, I'm going to be a stripper. So I said, I said that to one of my friends. And he's like, Well, there's a club right on the street from your house. Like, well, like, what would I do? He's, you have to go in and audition. So I'm like, Okay, I don't even know what that means. So I went in there and dance for like a set. And then they hired me, and then there for about four years now. Oh, wow, that

Unknown Speaker 26:40
was easy, I guess. Right? What was the hardest thing that you know, was the hardest thing to get used to? You know, I'm sure. You know, some people are very open and free with their sexuality and their body. But other people's aren't. I know that if I, you know, decided to be a stripper it would be it wouldn't go so well. I am so shy and so insecure with my body. Maybe it wasn't even that maybe there's something else in the industry. But is there anything that comes to mind? That was like, you know, the biggest thing for you to get over?

Unknown Speaker 27:12
I think it was the body confidence thing. I mean, not that I like, I know that I'm like in good shape and stuff like that. But I never really, you know, in school in the locker rooms and everything when be just like out in front, everybody getting changed and stuff. Like, I kind of like turn around or hide my body. Now. I guess I just don't care anymore. I'm just confident and going up there and looking at

Unknown Speaker 27:36
Yeah, that's awesome. What helps you What helped you get to that confidence level? I mean, I need more of that myself.

Unknown Speaker 27:42
I think just experience honestly. Like it. I feel like everybody at first is kind of like, you know, this is weird. Not used to this, but once you do it enough and make regulars and stuff then it gets a lot easier. Yeah. And it's fun. It's kind of it's hot. It's hard for me just because I'm more of a poor girl. Like I don't do a lot of floor work. So I'm usually like super sore the next day. What does

Unknown Speaker 28:09
that mean? Sorry. I'm a poor girl. I feel like all in my mind on our servers Polgar.

Unknown Speaker 28:16
I'm not all I'm not like some girls can't even climb to the top of the bowl. Really? I do. Like, yeah, I do. I feel

Unknown Speaker 28:23
like that has to be like the basic like, Get your ass to the top of this pole.

Unknown Speaker 28:28
Right? Yeah, there's some clubs here that don't even have poles though. It's just like, a stage. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's weird. I don't like those ones.

Unknown Speaker 28:38
Okay, so you are big on climbing the pole. And one time, I think the first time I was ever at a strip club, it was in San Francisco. And I'll never forget, I was 18. And this girl's name was honey. And it's like light skinned black girl. And she liked climbing to the top of the pole. She wrapped her legs around it. And she was just doing like, basically like core workouts, you know, like crunches and I was just, you know, back then I was a college wrestler. And like, instead of being like, ooh, sexy lady. I was like, Oh, awesome. Core straight. This is great. So I just like, you know, my appreciation for the athleticism that it takes, like, started at an early age. And so you know, when you say you're a pole girl, I'm like, you must have great core strength.

Unknown Speaker 29:23
That's funny, because I say the same things. And girls do like these, like inverted tricks, will they'll kick their legs up and be upside down and hold themselves to just their arms and like, wow, look at that.

Unknown Speaker 29:34
So this is a silly question. But, you know, what's the money? Like, you know, you expect the money to be amazing, but it is is it always amazing and then you know, I don't wanna say is it worth it? But you know, because if you like your job, that it's not like you're really doing anything that makes you feel uncomfortable, but, you know, can you give us a little bit of more detail on the actual money?

Unknown Speaker 29:58
It's honestly usually pretty good. But since COVID, like, business isn't really the same, but I mean, it also depends on how much you hustle to, you know, one girl can have a good day where it's still slow, you know, and then another day like, hardly make anything. And what?

Unknown Speaker 30:17
When you say sorry, when you say hustle, you know, I mean, obviously, like, you gotta like approach men and ask for lap dances or you know, I don't I'm not sure exactly how it works like be Yeah. Are you allowed a certain number of dances and then maybe you can like, ask the club manager for more like, how does that work? Exactly?

Unknown Speaker 30:36
Yeah, you don't get more from the managers. But you can do however many dances you want. Like, I think, yeah, this one time? How many DS? I think it was like, nine dances or something from me. And it's not a lot. It sounds like a lot. Yeah, cuz I mean, each one. So I usually do like three for 100. Okay, so then, yeah, I mean, that just adds up pretty quick. And it's like three songs per I mean, so like one dances a song?

Unknown Speaker 31:04
Oh, you sorry. I was thinking like, so there's stage dances, right? And then there's the lap dances. Yeah, like private dances. Yeah. So like, when you go there for the night, you know, you're working? Do you know how many times you can dance on the dance on the stage? Or is that you can go up there as many times as you want, like, just gotta you have to fight the other girls like

Unknown Speaker 31:28
it goes on a rotation. So I mean, obviously, if there's more girls, you're not going to go up as much. Like, what was that? Like? Tuesday? I think it was that I worked. There was 17 girls there on a day shift. Oh, dang. Yeah. And I mean, sometimes day shifts are really good. They used to be better before, like, the pandemic and everything. But yeah, there's, I guess one night, there's like 50 Some girls there too. For in for here. It's like not that huge of a club.

Unknown Speaker 31:57
Why do day shifts get a bad rap? Like, I think I was watching a movie the other day. And they were like, like, Oh, you don't want to go in there? Like, you know, it's like date day shift to like, like strippers or whatever. Like, why why do day shift? What is day shift get the bad rap?

Unknown Speaker 32:14
I honestly don't know. I would rather work a day shift personally. Because I mean, at that point, people are just like day drinking. If they're drinking, they're not like, all messed up. Like, I don't know, you just have to deal with a different kind of a different kind of

Unknown Speaker 32:30
invite out of people. Yeah. Okay, what are I mean, that leads me to my next question. You know, I'm sure whether it's a day shift or the night shift, you get the unsavory customers, right. So what are some things about your job that annoy you? I'm sure drunk dudes. hansy. Or, you know, or women drunk drunk Kanzi people, you know, that kind of stuff?

Unknown Speaker 32:54
Yeah, definitely. hansy Man, I haven't really had any women like, other than the girls like, will like Mack each other's books or something like that. That's not a big deal. But I think it's just like the unsolicited like touching me like people think just because I'm a dancer and then come up and like, grab my side or I mean, it doesn't even have to be anything bad. I just don't really like people to touch me without my consent. Yeah. And then like Hanzi in the in the private dances, I hate that. But a lot of people there know that I fight so

Unknown Speaker 33:26
that's awesome. Do you think that you get more customers because you fight me? There's like some appeal.

Unknown Speaker 33:32
Honestly, yeah. Like I've had people come in and, and see me and say that they like see me on Instagram and stuff like that. Honestly, like it's good. Promoting for me.

Unknown Speaker 33:42
Yeah. Is there a to have that? Sorry? No. Is there any concerns about safety? Because, you know, like, they they know your real identity through Instagram. And like, you know, there's stripper names. Do you have a stripper name?

Unknown Speaker 33:56
I do. It's Harley.

Unknown Speaker 33:58
Oh, I like it. Because the Joker right?

Unknown Speaker 34:01
Yeah. My alter egos.

Unknown Speaker 34:03
I like it. I like it. Okay, so does you know if someone comes in a man or a woman and they're, you know, excited to get a dance from you? Because they know who you really are. Does that creep you out?

Unknown Speaker 34:18
Sometimes, but not really. I don't know. I think I've just been doing it for so long. Now that I'm just kind of used to it. Like, at first I didn't really want anybody to know. And now everybody knows. So it's just it is what it is.

Unknown Speaker 34:29
Yeah, I mean, I'm not even like in I'm only thinking like from a safety standpoint, right? Yeah. No, like, you know, I think you know, it's awesome that you own your sexuality or I'm proud of what you do. I think whatever it is that you do, we should all fucking own it, right. But I also think that we should all set boundaries and protect ourselves as much as we can. Which is fucking hard because it's like both of us. You know me I'm over here like sex podcast is my life. Let me tell you all about It guides you to, you know, kind of being transparent about, you know, your fighting career. And, you know, so how important is it to have that stripper name?

Unknown Speaker 35:11
How what, how important is it? Yeah, like,

Unknown Speaker 35:13
you know, to, like create that kind of like, obviously very thin veil of, you know, I don't know, just like kind of like a fake mask, you know, people don't really know who you are, but at the same time, I'm sure they can just you know, find your Instagram just as easy.

Unknown Speaker 35:27
Yeah, exactly. There's some girls in there that just go by their regular name. So I don't think it's really that important, but I don't know, at first that I was kind of like, keeping it on the low. You know, I That's why I made up a different name, but it just stuck. I kind of like it.

Unknown Speaker 35:44
Yeah, no, I like Harley, one of my friends. Her name is Christina. We call her little because she's like, five foot nothing. She's super into Harley Quinn and all that. And so I feel like she would I'm actually hanging out with her laters and would tell her all about you. Oh, nice. So you said you know, is there anything else that annoys you about the job besides the the handy customers?

Unknown Speaker 36:08
Hmm. Not really.

Unknown Speaker 36:13
Do you have any kind of like crazy on the job stories? Like, you know, something that's happened to you in the club that you'll never forget?

Unknown Speaker 36:22
I had a guy pull his dick out one time in a dance. Yeah. Oh, my God, it was great. I got him kicked out right after like, I stood up from the dance and left and I was like, go get that too.

Unknown Speaker 36:31
Is that common or uncommon?

Unknown Speaker 36:34
I'm pretty common. It's pretty cool. Like all the time. But like, I feel like every girl that works there probably has a story about

Unknown Speaker 36:42
it. Yeah, but it's not like you get one a night or anything like that. No, huh, God? That's okay.

Unknown Speaker 36:48
I hope not. I said I know. Yeah. So

Unknown Speaker 36:51
you know, those are the type of people you know, that I worry about safety. You know what I mean? Cuz it's like, this guy can't even control himself to not whip his dick out in the club. You know, like, what's to say, he's not going to go, you know, want to touch you or see you out, you know, outside the club, like, Oh, what about security, like, so when, you know, let's say you work a night shift, or a day shift and you're on your way to your car, like, you know, do you guys take certain like safety precautions? I'm so curious. I've got all these crazy questions that people are like, Oh, this is this episode's all about stripping?

Unknown Speaker 37:25
Oh, actually have door guys that are all like, yeah, like security guards. Basically, they walk us out to our cars and then to the night. Okay, that's good. That's awesome. That's like, or even in the daytime, even during the day shift. Like if we get off at like five or six or whatever. They still walk us out when it's daylight out. Yeah, that

Unknown Speaker 37:41
should be a bare minimum. Right? So you've been stripping for four years. You said? Yeah. And then you also said you just got out of a relationship. So I'm wondering, does your job I usually ask people ask fighters this, you know, and so I'm gonna ask you in both senses of the does your career whether it's stripping or fighting, has that ever gotten in the way of your relationships? So too? I guess?

Unknown Speaker 38:13
Not really. I mean, as far as like, fighting and stuff in my last relationship, he's a he's the black belt, one of the black belts in the gym, my trainer. Oh, so yeah. So we still like train together and stuff like that. So that was never an issue because we're always going to the gym together and stuff. I feel like so we dated twice. We did it a couple years ago, too. And when I used to talk about wanting to strip he was like, Nah, like, I wouldn't want you to do that. And then this time around, like he'd actually come into the strip. And like, I would tell him, I go get dances from other girls. I don't care. Just don't ask like my boyfriend here because I'm working. Yeah. So it's not good for business. No, exactly. Like, go get a dance. Leave me alone.

Unknown Speaker 38:58
Okay, so I mean, it didn't you know, you dating someone. Or you being a fighter didn't affect a relationship. It actually probably was a good thing because you guys could, you know, really and trained together go to the gym together. But now that you guys are broken up, does that create animosity or friction? Because you guys, you know, I don't know if it was a bad falling out or, but you guys have to see each other the gym right?

Unknown Speaker 39:22
Yeah, actually coached together, too. So we teach kids classes together. I know. We get along really? Well. We dated for like, altogether, like four years. Also, the number four with me what is but yeah, no, there's no animosity. We coexist. Well, and we're still friends. Still. Coaches and yeah, very healthy. Yeah. And he always like that. It took a while, but we're good now.

Unknown Speaker 39:53
And he came around to the idea of you stripping.

Unknown Speaker 39:56
Yeah, I mean, I still think I still think maybe in The back of his head you probably didn't like it, but, but you are yo. Yeah, I'm still gonna do it anyways. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 40:06
Okay, so what about stripping? I mean, in that four year span that you've been dancing? Has it caused any problems in your relationships?

Unknown Speaker 40:16
Not really. I feel like everybody that I've talked to kind of liked it. Like, at first they're like, oh, like stripping. And then they come into the club. They're like, Oh, this is pretty cool. Yeah, it is.

Unknown Speaker 40:31
For sure. But then there's just in there people who are not okay with it, though, you know, the right the very, you know, traditional territorial kind of mindset, right? Where it's my I can't even look at it, let alone touch it.

Unknown Speaker 40:45
Yeah, exactly. I'm a very loyal person. So I think that that goes a long way, when I'm showing that you know, that I'm loyal to you and stuff. Like I'm not gonna do anything stupid at work.

Unknown Speaker 40:56
Yeah. And you have your own only fans as well, right?

Unknown Speaker 40:59
I do. Yeah. Awesome.

Unknown Speaker 41:02
How's that been going for you?

Unknown Speaker 41:04
It's good. I mean, I honestly haven't been keeping up with it as much as I should last couple of weeks, because I've been kind of sick and stuff. But I mean, during the pandemic, that was my main source of income, because the clubs closed down. Yeah. You know, I didn't have another job for a while. So I started that, and then I renewed my badge. For like to work in the cannabis industry. Wow. Are you kidding? You

Unknown Speaker 41:27
do so much stuff. Right. So you're a barber. You're a stripper? You're a fighter? You wait, wait, wait. You just said something. Cannabis worker.

Unknown Speaker 41:39

Unknown Speaker 41:40
You only fans account? I like it. You've got multiple sources of income. I love it. You're

Unknown Speaker 41:46
smart. Yeah, absolutely. I don't like to be broke.

Unknown Speaker 41:50
I don't like to be broke. So how do you find time to do all these different things? How do you bet especially how do you balance training, especially if you have a fight coming up, and, you know, a shift at the club and, you know, cutting some hair on the side and putting out only fans pictures and all this stuff?

Unknown Speaker 42:09
was only fans is a little bit easier when I had somebody helping me make the content. So I kind of that's why I've also stepped back with that since I'm not in a relationship anymore. But yeah, with everything else like stripping, I get to make my own schedule. I usually just like to work day shifts, because I don't have to pay a house fee. Okay, so I just kind of worked my training around that too. I usually just I don't like to train at night, honestly, like I do for jujitsu. But when I'm doing like striking stuff, I'll get up between like seven to eight, and then go train till I have to go to work.

Unknown Speaker 42:41
So you have these jobs that allow you to make your own schedules. And that's how it all works out. Yep. Awesome. That's awesome. Well, you'll, you'll be the this will be the first episode that I tell you. And the first episode that I talk about it and you'll be the first person that I tell I'm actually starting. I'm not sure if it's gonna be only fans or a fan time, but stay tuned guys. Yeah, yes. So can't wait. Yeah, I've weighed the pros and cons. And, you know, it's just, there's so many pros and you know, kind of just want to take back my sexuality and feel confident about myself and capitalized and you know, I don't know, it's just, I think it's gonna be fun. I've got a few friends that fighter girls that want to collaborate as well. I think we could be, you know, just a fun time. Really.

Unknown Speaker 43:32
That's awesome. I love that for you. Yeah, I'm

Unknown Speaker 43:34
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Unknown Speaker 44:51
Oh, I don't know honestly,

Unknown Speaker 44:55
is it all sunshine and rainbows in there like what's going on? I mean, I don't don't want to like dark but is there? Is there like, you know, excess drinking or like drug use in the back. Like what happens backstage?

Unknown Speaker 45:10
I mean, yeah, there's sometimes girls get like, way too fucked up, I think they should maybe, like have a limit on to how much like girls can drink there and stuff.

Unknown Speaker 45:18
So you're allowed to drink and do whatever you want before you go on stage.

Unknown Speaker 45:24
Pretty much. I mean, I would say they've probably frown upon doing drugs in the back, but girls always find a way to do something. Just go on the bathroom stall. There's no cameras in

Unknown Speaker 45:34
there. Yeah. Okay, so there's not really I mean, in my mind, I've seen a lot of movies, you know, and I've been to my fair share of clubs, but like, you know, I'm like thinking that there might be like, a darker side to the industry, but maybe not in your experience.

Unknown Speaker 45:49
Um, I mean, there is like, like you said, with drug use and like, drinking and stuff like that, but that's usually like during the night. Again, that's why I don't really like to work night shifts, because there's a lot more like, shady shit that goes on. Yeah, I'm kind of the day shifts are pretty mellow. And the thing I like about our clubs is all of us girls are friends. Like there's no cattiness. We don't steal from each other like, or house moms. I think she like hurt her ankle or something like that. So all the girls are like bringing in food and like hairspray. What's the house mom? Um, basically like a lady that comes in and like sells food, like makes food for us in the back and sells like outfits? I think she I think she's like a seamstress or something to Oh, she makes him do all of this or just your club.

Unknown Speaker 46:34
I think most of them do. And does the club employ her or she kind of like a independent contractor? Like I don't you call it kind of just comes there.

Unknown Speaker 46:45
As far as I know. They employ her. Oh, okay. That's cool. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 46:50
just kind of helps take care of you guys and fix your wardrobe if you have a wardrobe malfunction.

Unknown Speaker 46:55
Yeah. And she sells like eyelashes and jewelry and stuff. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Wow. Okay, that's awesome. So good when you forget stuff.

Unknown Speaker 47:06
What do you what do you forget on accident? Sometimes?

Unknown Speaker 47:11
I'm extra under Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, or my eyelashes?

Unknown Speaker 47:20
Okay, so in the dating world, kind of going back, stepping away from the dancing talk right now. Being a fighter, you know, I know, you said it wasn't an issue with your last boyfriend. But has it ever been an issue in the past? You know, have you ever? You know, because obviously fighting is I we talked about how it's a selfish sport. And it's very time consuming and demanding. And you know, sometimes you can't go out when your partner wants to go out like, Have you ever, you know, experienced problems in the past with, you know, maybe you didn't date a fighter? Maybe you know, it sounds like you've dated in the industry a lot, or a little bit. But what about Have you ever dated someone who wasn't a fighter who didn't understand the pressures and the scheduling and the time constraints?

Unknown Speaker 48:09
I like, Yeah, I did date this girl after. So the guy that I was with recently that I dated before. The first time we broke up, I dated this girl for a summer and she lives in Fort Collins, which is only like an hour, maybe like 3045 minutes away from here. And I mean, that kind of affected our relationship a little bit, but not really so much in a bad way, though, again, because she was going to school and we both just didn't really have time for each other. But it honestly ended pretty well. I was just like, hey, I'm a little more focused on fighting the new and I don't think that's fair to you. And you know, you have school so let's just be friends. And yeah, now she's one of my best friends still so

Unknown Speaker 48:50
weird. Cassie, how can you be really cool because you're like, yeah, that well, we just added so good. Like, it's like all you always end like, I don't know, like, mutually beneficial, or, you know, just like, like, just I'm like, there's no like, no, no, like, you would think like a fighter and like the cannabis industry in the in the stripping industry. You know, it's like, oh, she's gonna have some crazy stories. And you're like, well, everything was really good and nice. I mean,

Unknown Speaker 49:20
as far as like that one with my ex wife that one. I mean, again, we were both fighters. So it was like, easy to train and like, you know, have that to relate, but then it also got really competitive. Yeah. So I think that was a big issue in our relationship. When I went pro like I signed right to Invicta and she'd been Pro for, I think, like, three years or something like that. So I think there was a little bit of jealousy. That's yeah, so see, it's

Unknown Speaker 49:48
not it's not all good. It's not all rainbows and sunshine, actually. Okay. Probably the worst. No, it's okay. I mean, you You seem like a very easygoing person, you know, very easy to get along. With so it's just to me, it's like shocking to hear about relationships that end on a good note. I know, right? But that's great. So right now you are focusing on your career and all these other things that you do, which is so awesome. I think it's so smart to have multiple sources of income. Because like, you know, if 2020 has shown us anything, it's like, you never know what the fuck is going to happen. And it's nice to have kind of backup plans, right? Absolutely. So, you know, I know you're just focusing on fighting, but when you do get back out there, do you plan to do online dating? Or do you prefer to meet people in person? And if you prefer in person, where, you know, probably not the club, right?

Unknown Speaker 50:46
No, absolutely not.

Unknown Speaker 50:47
Have you ever dated someone from the club that you met at the club?

Unknown Speaker 50:52
I've never dated anyone from there. I've hung out with people outside the club. But they were like people that I got to know and everything. Like, it wasn't like, they came in twice. And they're like, oh, let's go eat or something. Like no, I built a relationship with them and ended up becoming good friends with them. But yeah, that's only happened like twice. I think

Unknown Speaker 51:12
that, you know, it's kind of like maybe like a no, no, right?

Unknown Speaker 51:17
I mean, yeah, probably would be frowned upon. If it's like, you know, more than that, but I just saw one of my really good friends from there. He'll like will go out and have lunch or something like that. His wife knows about me and everything. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So no, we're good friends.

Unknown Speaker 51:35
So okay, so when you do decide to get back out there, do you say do you want to do online dating or in person?

Unknown Speaker 51:46
I would maybe consider still doing online dating, but I kind of rather meet some somebody in person.

Unknown Speaker 51:52
Did you have a bad experience with online dating?

Unknown Speaker 51:55
No, I just feel like I always end up just being friends with these people.

Unknown Speaker 52:01
Before, before you before we started talking to you, we were just talking about the tinder swindler on Netflix. Did you watch that?

Unknown Speaker 52:08
No, I just saw it on there. And I was wondering what it was about, oh, god.

Unknown Speaker 52:12
Um, I kind of want to tell you to watch it kind of just so you can like be aware that these kinds of people are on there. But also it you know, it would make it would turn me off from online dating so fast, because it's so sad is watching. Just go ahead. Watch it. Watch it, but Okay,

Unknown Speaker 52:29
all right. Check it out. on Netflix.

Unknown Speaker 52:33
Yeah, it's on Netflix called the tinder swindler. You know, just Yeah, it's real funny right now. So. So what goes wrong with these? When you do online dating? You said you always end up just friends. But why?

Unknown Speaker 52:49
I don't really know. I mean, I did end up dating that one chick, but now we're just friends. And I think I dated. I went on a date with one other girl from there. And then she ended up moving or something. I don't know. I just kind of end up like meeting up once and then not really being interested.

Unknown Speaker 53:07
So you lose interest. Yeah. Okay. That's not bad. You know, I just haven't found what would you like? Yeah. All right. So you do you ever get kind of like creepers, you know, because you know, there's, there's compliments. But then there's like creepy stuff. And I feel like fighter girls especially get an excess of kind of creepy DMS and all that. You have your only fans and you know, you work at a strip club. So I'm expecting that you have a lot of experience with creepers.

Unknown Speaker 53:37
You have no idea. I get unsolicited dick pics, like every other day here. Like, well, mostly, I'm like only fans. I think it's just because like, since I'm posting this kind of shit, or whatever that day assume I want to see their dick and I'm like, no.

Unknown Speaker 53:53
Okay, so obviously, I am a big rookie. I've interviewed lots of girls and guys that on this podcast that have their own only fans or fan time account, but I don't really know exactly how it works. But are you telling me that if I post a picture, someone can respond with a dick pic?

Unknown Speaker 54:13
Um, that's usually like, they'll send it in a, like a private message.

Unknown Speaker 54:18
And you have so weird. I feel like they shouldn't be allowed to do that. To me, it's like you should be able to allow you should be able to send them something but you know, that's weird. I mean, that's forward to

Unknown Speaker 54:36
I mean, it'll say like, image is blurred or something. So yeah, it's under your discretion if you want to open it, but

Unknown Speaker 54:43
the image is blurred. It's probably not a bunny, you know?

Unknown Speaker 54:46
Right. Exactly. That's I'm saying that's all I don't have to delete.

Unknown Speaker 54:50
Okay. All right. Any tips for me for you know, only fans and fan time?

Unknown Speaker 54:57
Um, so I kinda likes about what I did with mine. So my accounts free. So basically what I used to post on like Instagram, like more like my book pictures and stuff like that, I'll post that kind of stuff for free on my only fans, but then if you want to see more like something topless or something like that, I'll price it. So it'll be on my feed, but you have to pay, like, say five bucks or whatever for that to open it. Mm hmm. Okay, which I think kind of, I feel like it worked better than when I was having a subscription. And then like sending DMS to everybody to unlock, like, you'll just see that on my feed. And I'll like caption that or something like, Oh, this is me doing this or me doing that. And it'll be like a certain price. That's made me the most money doing it that way. Okay. It's kind

Unknown Speaker 55:45
of like, you know, it's like, you know, drug dealers, they like, give you like, your first sample free if the first ones on me, like get you hooked up. And it's like you keep coming back?

Unknown Speaker 55:54
Exactly. I don't know that that was the perfect analogy.

Unknown Speaker 55:59
Get them hooked to that. It's like, no, no, they gotta pay for it. Awesome. So I would ask you mushy question. You know, we've been talking about sex and fighting and all that. What is your definition of love?

Unknown Speaker 56:15
Um, I would say just like, loyalty. I'm a big person about, you know, trust trusting people. Because I've had a lot of trust issues in the past. So I think loyalty is like my biggest thing and putting actions behind your words, because you can sit there and say you love somebody so much. And you can show in ways that you don't. Yeah, so I mean, that's probably like my, my love language.

Unknown Speaker 56:43
Yeah, yeah, those acts of

Unknown Speaker 56:44
service are. What else was my other one? Okay, remember?

Unknown Speaker 56:52
What? Words of Affirmation quality time,

Unknown Speaker 56:55
quality time that was it? Okay. I'm a physical touch

Unknown Speaker 56:59
and a words of affirmation. Touch me and tell me I'm pretty. I love it. But, you know, I'm so lucky because my boyfriend the other day, I realized he kind of does all of them. And but you know, like, equally, you know, like he'll do. You know, he'll do the dishes, like, I guess that's, you know, like acts of service. But actually, it's like, you know, he will get gifts give me gifts on like, my birthday or a holiday and stuff, but like, we're not materialistic people. And I realized, like, that's probably the one love language that we don't, you know, it's just not big, you know, like, I would much rather have him. You know, tell me how much he loves me or spend some quality time, then get me you know, an expensive gift. But,

Unknown Speaker 57:41
right. I'm the same way.

Unknown Speaker 57:43
Yeah. All right. Well, sorry, I just pulled up something. Okay, so another mushy, mushy question. What's the most romantic or craziest thing you've ever done for love?

Unknown Speaker 57:55
Oh, I don't I don't think I've done anything too crazy. Like I romantic wise. Like I've done that whole, like, flower petals all down the hallway and on the bed and candles and gifts on the bed and stuff like that. But I don't know about crazy. I'm not that crazy. You're not? I mean, I am. So yeah.

Unknown Speaker 58:22
You okay. You know, you don't have to be like a super romantic person. And, but that actually, like as we're talking it makes me think okay, so you're bisexual? Do you? And I was talking to Macy, Chateau Shoshana. Right. She was our last guest that we talked to right those last guests. Yeah. And she I was like, you know, cuz she's very androgynous with her appearance. You know, she's a female that kind of wears the guy clothes and the guy haircut. And, you know, I was like, Are you more of like, the guy in the relationship? And she was like, No, not really. She was like, I know, I look like this, but I'm kind of like a big girl on the inside. And so I'm thinking right now it's like, you know, you're bisexual. When you were married? Let's say for example, to your ex wife. Did you find yourself being more of like, the feminine side? Or were you more of like, the masculine energy?

Unknown Speaker 59:18
I feel like both of us were 5050 Yeah, it just kind of depended on the mood. I guess. Like, I feel like most of the time, I'd like to be more dominant when I'm with a woman, but she also kind of had the same personality. So we just kind of made it balance.

Unknown Speaker 59:35
Interesting. Yeah. Because I was thinking right now I'm like, you know, you know, are you the one that puts the pedals out or and like, does all the grand gesture or are you the one that finds it? And, you know, I guess it doesn't matter. Like that's not like a masculine thing. You know, it's like, sometimes we put all the weight on the male to be the one that to do the romantic gesture, but females can be romantic too, right?

Unknown Speaker 59:56
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Unknown Speaker 59:57
It's weird. I don't I always want to get My boyfriend flowers because it's such like an easy sweet thing to do, but he's not gonna be as excited as we are. Right. So I'm like, okay, like

Unknown Speaker 1:00:08
I used to get I used to get my my boyfriend flowers. He loved it though. Really? Yeah, that's cute.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:14
I'm always like, what can I do? I'm like, no, just give a blowjob. That's fine. Oh my god. That's usually what I do. Yeah, actually my boy.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:25
That's good. See, there you go easy. So we're beer. Bring back a Blanton six pack.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:32
I um, we don't drink. Oh. Okay, so from machete to sex question. So do you abstain? From sex before fight camps or fights?

Unknown Speaker 1:00:43
Hell no, no, no, no, no, I tried to have more sex before fights. Yeah, I remember Ronda Rousey saying something about boosting your testosterone or something. I was like, but yeah, good excuse, I'm gonna keep doing that.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:57
I really do love that she was I feel like, you know, the only female fighter to ever really talk about how beneficial sex is. Before a fight, you know? And then like, everyone just remembered it. Like they always bring it up now, especially on the podcast. I'm like, yeah, like, I would love to have her on the show someday.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:16
Right? That'd be fun.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:19
Okay, so you don't abstain from sex? Do you find yourself being more of the dominant or submissive in bed?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:28
With men usually submissive, kind of depends. But I think definitely more dominant was women.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:36
Oh, okay. So it's different. That's interesting. That's cool. Okay. I've never Alright, and then have you ever been asked to do anything? Like too weird? Or, like, just any, like, funny requests in bed that you're like, Oh, thank you.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:53
Um, yeah, kind of, but there's some things that I thought like, I wouldn't like that I ended up liking this is really weird. He's like, I was in the middle of having sex. And then this do start sucking my toes. And I was like, oh, that sounds kind of good.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:14
Yeah, like on paper, you're like, Nah, I'm not into that. And then like, in person, you're like, ooh, that feels nice.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:20
Exactly. Just in the moment. I'm like, All right, keep going.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:24
Yeah, you know, it's crazy. Like all the I'm always like, doing like, reading little articles here and there. Like not because I think I'm some fucking, you know, qualified person to give people advice, but I just I want to, like learn as much about sexuality and, and, you know, different fetishes and all that. And foot fetish is the biggest fetish out there. It's just like, the most common but it's also like, the most taboo, and don't get the fetish or don't get that it's a fetish. I mean, tweets thrown right, like, yeah, I feel like there's like, a million are like, you know, 100 different parts of the body that are more sexy than feet. But you know, but

Unknown Speaker 1:03:07
I just have jujitsu feet though, too. So I'm like, I don't think my feet are sexy. I don't want to send you pictures.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:13
My boyfriend was just telling me that I have. What a jerk. I mean, it's he's so true. But he's so he's so right. I'm looking at my toes right now. I've got like, Fred Flintstone feet. And my oh my god, my pinky toe looks like it was like stung by a fucking bee. It's just like a stubby little. And he's like, he's like, I'm gonna need to feed but you got Fred Flintstone feet. And I'm like, Thanks, Ben.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:37
Oh, sweet.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:39
But um, so, you know, actually was like, me, I'm anticipating some like foot requests. When I do start the, you know, like, the only fans or the fan time. Do you get a lot of foot requests?

Unknown Speaker 1:03:51
I do. Or like, this is weird to what people have asked me to like send my socks from like, after this so gross. Like from after I work?

Unknown Speaker 1:04:00
Well, on how much like

Unknown Speaker 1:04:03
I'm saying I sold a pair of my underwear one time. How much? How much 50 bucks.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:10
And you're like these costs $10 I just made a $40

Unknown Speaker 1:04:13
over like Walmart underwear for like two or three bucks. That's a good product honestly. Yeah, I didn't even wear them. I just went to my locker and grabbed a pair

Unknown Speaker 1:04:24
Nice. Alright, so you got the thing that surprised you was the person suckin on your toes? Anything else that happened in bed that you were like, alright, kind of surprised you?

Unknown Speaker 1:04:37
I don't think so. I mean, will somebody charges stick something in your butt? That's kind of surprising. That's just

Unknown Speaker 1:04:43
rude sir. I know like

Unknown Speaker 1:04:45
you gotta ask.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:49
A favorite quickie story or like, wildest like craziest place you've ever had sex or hooked up?

Unknown Speaker 1:04:56
Um, one time I wanted my lunch breaks and I was working at that display. Three. I met up with my boyfriend we hooked up in the parking lot of this bar we just had lunch at it was like broad daylight, like in a car or like in a car on a car. And then one time we pulled over by this river on an inner

Unknown Speaker 1:05:16
inner tube that seems slippery and dangerous.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:22
Yeah, it was. It was kind of hard but you know, I figured out

Unknown Speaker 1:05:25
that's what she said. Oh. I was waiting. Alright, it's time for the lightning sex round this is a rapid yes or no segment. Are you ready? Cassie? I'm ready. All right. Lightning section with Cassie. Here we go. Do you dirty talking bed? Yes. Spank or like to be spanked? Both biting. Yes, choking. Yes, threesomes Oh, yeah. Do you watch porn? Yeah. Any foot fetish? No. bodily fluid fetish. Yeah, bondage like ropes. Blindfold handcuffs.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:17
Absolutely. Role playing. Um, no.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:22
But stuff on you or a partner. You know? Do you sex toys? Yes. Ever been to a sex club or a swingers party? Yes. Are you a lingerie lover? Yes. Body hair? No. Ever been caught having sex? Yeah, or ever been caught masturbating?

Unknown Speaker 1:06:43
Oh, not yet. Okay. Oh, you've got having sex? Yeah, no. Do I the cops.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:54
By the cops? Did you get in trouble or did they let you go?

Unknown Speaker 1:06:58
No, they let me go. They're probably like she's embarrassed enough. Just let them go their kids where were you? Um This happened a couple of times.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:10
We got this Rob repeat offender here again.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:15
You're smoking once isn't like the mall parking lot. And then I think the other time was like in a park. At a park. It was like late at night so there weren't any like kids.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:27
Yeah, that's good. Actually. Wasn't that told us I think it was. I forget what she said. Or forget if it was her. I don't want to like call her out. But yeah, there was a Tennessee what's her name? Jenny savage. She said she got caught at a park one time two.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:44
Oh, geez. Okay, so

Unknown Speaker 1:07:46
let's end the show with some two segments. One is Fuck, Marry kill and the other one is fan questions marry one kill one go. I think we're done. We're done here. Are you ready?

Unknown Speaker 1:08:04
Okay, I'm ready.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:05
All right. I'm pretty excited about this book. Marry kill. I made it especially for you. Jesus. Okay, so since you are a stripper I gave you the stripper edition. And also since you're bisexual I these are the top three strippers. Well, in my opinion. So Magic Mike is loosely based on Channing Tatum's days as a stripper in Florida. I did not know this. He says he was not ashamed, nor does he regret one thing so boom. Channing Tatum, Cardi B stripped as a young adult for three and a half years and explained that the job helped her pay bills afford an apartment and invest in her goal of becoming an artist. Number two Cardi B. And lastly, Courtney loves days and as an exotic dancer helped her to form a band. She said that she used us to earn $300 a day with the money she earned from working love was able to kickstart her band hole which I love. So you get to choose between Channing Tatum, Cardi B and Courtney Love Who do you want to fuck who do you want to marry who do you want to kill?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:07
cardi Mary Channing and then killed was another one.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:13
Corny that's not like so very much. Yeah. All right. Okay, and then I got a couple fan questions for you

Unknown Speaker 1:09:29
you know, I never know. Like how, you know, the followers and listeners are gonna respond. You got a lot of fan questions. So but they're good. They're great ones. Okay. At short, thin and short, thin and shiny. If DJ slap, he's like, What if MMA Bare Knuckle boxing and pro Judo BJJ all paid? Well. That would be a dream right? Which would you choose?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:03
BJJ Oh really? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:06
All right. So do you think because this is my goal so like after I'm done fighting when I'm an old lady I'm still going to compete in jujitsu Are you going to be the same? Oh yeah, absolutely. I just I can't see myself ever not competing

Unknown Speaker 1:10:19
there's just yet me there

Unknown Speaker 1:10:21
are you know, like, What the fuck? You know? It's like once you fight once you get locked in a cage. It's like life like all other life kind of is boring in comparison. And I just love competition so much. I'm like, Alright, I guess I'll just be one of those dusty ass old ladies who are like still doing jujitsu.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:38
Same girl. Same.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:39
Okay, cool. At Dustin Heath. 23 What's the worst sex you've ever had?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:45
Oh, my God. This one time I hooked up with this guy. He's kind of like a nerdy guy. I was just I don't even know why I let him take me on a date. But we ended up hooking up and he literally got like one pump in came in. I was like, what? And then he was like, trying to cuddle me and stuff after and I was like, Um, can you take me home

Unknown Speaker 1:11:12
This next question is kind of similar but worst date ever. And this is from at right fit at three.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:20
Oh, I probably I don't know. I don't like it when guys like don't hold doors open stuff for me. So that will already make my night bad. Like if you don't like walk on like the, you know, the outside of the sidewalk or be a gentleman door open. Yeah. So there's actually a couple like that. But I would say that that's just a start to a bad date. Yeah, again, ever had to like, pay for anybody or anything. But

Unknown Speaker 1:11:45
unfortunately, I feel like that's the newer generation. They kind of they don't do those small little gentlemen like behaviors. Which makes me I didn't ask you do you have like age preference? Do you tend to go after like younger people or older people?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:01
Either people my age or older? Not like super old but within like, I mean, I could do like 10 year gap. Maybe?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:10
It's not bad. Yeah. Okay. At Zacky B. Are you friends with Taylor Starling?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:17
Yeah, I love that girl.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:18
Is it friends with T?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:20
That's what I'm saying. She's She's so easy to love.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:23
She's very lovable. Yeah. Okay. At shark gang leader. Also about Tay, were you friends with Tay Starling before the fight or did that throw down bring you closer?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:36
Um, we were friends for a long time. She actually think she's been following me since I had like my old Instagram. She had a different name back then. I think it was Jenkins or something. Taylor Jenkins. Oh, yeah. So yeah, she used to just like, messaged me here and there. And, like, always on my bad days to like, you know, if I like lost a fight or something like don't give up. You know, I'm a big fan of yours. And you should keep fighting. So we were already good friends. And I think that did bring us a lot closer for sure.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:04
Yeah. She's a sweetheart. Let's give her a shout out guys. Ted Starling actually has her own podcast called the banana and the B. It's her and Dave Aachen. And yeah, you can listen to more Taylor Starling. As if you want to watch her bare knuckle fights. But But yeah, shout out to Tay Okay. At Pedro. revery. Is there anything left? You need to try?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:31
Oh, probably I do. Kind of like I said, I want to try Bare Knuckle MMA maybe at least once?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:37
Yeah, that's gnarly, man. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:13:40
I know. I gotta try everything once.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:43
At Louie G one. Louie g 1223. Why is your arm blacked out?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:52
I get this all the time. Do you? Um, yeah. Like, every time I met the dude at the club.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:59
I mean, my first you know, when I see the arm I think and this is just my guess, is that you had a whole bunch of tattoos that you got at a young age and then didn't like them over time. And then so you decided to blackout your whole arm?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:14
Yep, pretty much.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:16
I mean, that's that's it?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:17
Yeah. So I I was only going to do half of it because I I had a tattoo that I end up getting covered up and the cover up itself was terrible. So I blacked out the bottom half of it first and then I don't know I got that done. I was like that looks pretty cool. I think I'm just gonna do the whole thing.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:33
Yeah, it does. deejays all said that shit look like you know I have tattoos I'm like ooh, pain and then your arm just like fucking black. I'm like, Oh, you when

Unknown Speaker 1:14:45
I gotta love tubular Did that hurt like no tickle? Course it hurts. Look at my arm. It's completely black.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:52
Yeah, yep. Nice.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:55
It's more common now like a lot of people are doing blackouts.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:58
Yeah, the last time I was in Vegas getting tattooed by the homie Ryan Jenkins shout out. There was a big buff dude just like getting his whole chest blacked out. And I was just like, Oh God, I mean,

Unknown Speaker 1:15:12
how have you seen on the people do like over their fingernails? No. Oh god. Oh, no, thank you. I can't even imagine. Yeah, people always

Unknown Speaker 1:15:19
ask me, you know, like, what's your what tattoo hurt the most and, you know, each one kind of like, has their different pain level in my opinion. And one of the worst ones was, I don't know if you have your your fingertips done.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:35
Yeah, like, well, not the fingertip tips. But like the bottom knuckle like that. You mean like by your fingernails?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:43
Yeah, exactly. Right by Yeah. Yeah, that shit just feels like torture

Unknown Speaker 1:15:47
like that is one of the worst spots ever. But the back of my knee was pretty bad. Yep, yep.

Unknown Speaker 1:15:52
I've actually have like, I've got a little bit there. But I've been procrastinating getting it filled in because I remember he did like one line. I turned around. I'm like, That's it.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:04
Oh, yeah. It's rough. I use a lot of numbing cream last time.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:08
Yeah, you know, I can't because we get tested by Osada. And a lot of those numbing creams have lidocaine in them. And lidocaine is like a steroid masking agent. And so they don't know. You know, I could be Oh, I was just getting tattooed. But they're gonna block you are taking steroids. Guys. Have you seen my body? I don't even know that. Yeah. So, but, but yeah, I mean, I don't think that bare knuckle does testing now. Okay, so next add Glenn underscore the boss. What was the most humbling experience through trading or your career?

Unknown Speaker 1:16:46
Oh, I think fighting in Japan. Yeah, that was just here. I don't know. I kind of had like it. I made it moment when I walked out, you know? Yeah, that was just like, wow, I've worked really hard. And I finally got on a big stage like I'm fighting out the country. I fought in front of like, I think there's like 30,000 people or something.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:08
Yeah. Rising right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So cool. Yeah. And and you fought? Who'd you fight for that fight?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:18
Me, Yamamoto?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:20
Yeah, that's that's awesome. Did you did you armbar her

Unknown Speaker 1:17:25
a couple times. But I didn't finish them she ended up winning by decision

Unknown Speaker 1:17:28
all right. Yeah, that's I would love to I've never even been actually means all we're just talking about was a Japan's Oh, yeah. I've never been I would love to go there someday.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:38
It's amazing. You should.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:40
Okay at all in Stuart. One fetish you would love to try at least once versus one. You will never Greenlight.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:50
Oh, I'm like, I feel like I've done a lot of stuff. Um, uh, I don't know, I've never had a threesome with two girls. So maybe that would be one.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:04
That seems very doable. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:07
I know hasn't happened yet. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:10
And then we'll never green light.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:15
Anything was but stuff. I just don't like it. But guys. Got the X and only a few more questions at

Unknown Speaker 1:18:23
Dan vandal 12 Dating do's and don'ts.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:29
Don't cheat on me. That's a big one. Don't lie to me. I'd rather cry over the truth and smile overlay.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:36
Ooh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just give you the big thumbs up with that.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:42
I'd rather just yeah, I'd rather know like, right away and be sad about it, then. Have you think like, me think that you're telling me the truth and find out later? I'm gonna be way more upset later.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:51
Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:53
Big news. I'm very vague about chivalry. Like I said, like, I'll lose complete interest in us. Like you don't open my car door for me or open the door for me when we're going in somewhere.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:05
Yeah. Which is? It's like such a small thing. But it means so much. Right? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:10
Well, my dad used to always do that for us growing up so like I expect to be treated how my dad taught to be treated how my dad treated me.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:19
Oh, yeah, I love that. Okay, and this one's from anonymous. Would you say you're a DOM or a sub DOM got it? And then at s underscored Kennard. What do you do after a when go out to dinner clubbing? Or just go home?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:38
I usually just go to bed. Really? Yeah, I mean, I might go out and like have a drink or something. Get something to eat and then yeah, I usually just like to go in my hotel room. Go chill. Yeah, smoke smoke a little bit or something. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:19:53
I yeah, I would always win or lose just get wasted but I'm still drinking A couple years ago, and now it's just excuse me. Just go home and smoke and have sex with my boyfriend.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:07
Oh, I love it. Yeah, I see that too. I'm not too tired depending on how bad I buy it. What?

Unknown Speaker 1:20:12
Last Last fan question at Dustin Heath 22 biggest turnoff?

Unknown Speaker 1:20:20
Oh, I have a lot of them. I don't like when people choose their mouths open. If I can hear you eating. Oh my god.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:27
My boyfriend. I don't know why he likes this. He loves to chew ice. And I'm like, it took me so long to like, tell him like babe. That's killing me. And like now he like, he'll, like start chewing it. So the whole like, kind of look over at me. Like, like, and I'm like, you know, I hate that.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:44
Yeah, this friend of mine always smacks his gum too. And he'll like. He's, like, choose so loudly. Dude. Oh my god. I'm gonna smack the shit out of you,

Unknown Speaker 1:20:56
though. Okay, so that was the last fan question. My last question to you. You've been awesome. Guest but who would you like to hear next on sex and violence? Rebel girl?

Unknown Speaker 1:21:04
Oh, I feel like there's been a lot of people on there. Um, I would have said Jenny, but I guess she's already been on there. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:21:10
yeah. I've had a lot of the bare knuckle girls. Britton Hart. She said she would come on. Christine ICLs. Damn, Farah. Farah.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:19
Oh, yes. I have no idea for you.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:23
Yeah, the bare knuckle girls are always great. You guys are just transparent and very down to earth. You guys are awesome.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:30
Awesome. Thank you. Um, I don't know, man. Try and get all the bare knuckle girls. I would I would love to hear Britten's for sure. Okay. All right. Did you have have you had Rachel on there? Last image?

Unknown Speaker 1:21:41
Yeah, well, yeah, she was one. I think like, the first like 20 episodes. I I got so lucky early on, because I have a lot of, you know, friends and acquaintances that I've just been around throughout the the sport the last decade or so. And probably what I I mean, I'm not saying I'm great or anything now. But I was, you know, I'm better now interviewing than I was episode 1819 20. And all these girls and guys really gave me a shot early on. And Rachel is one of Tracy Cortez just you know, Felice herring, like all these girls that, you know, they're their stars. And they're like, Sure, you'll have had five podcasts. I'll do your show. And so I got really lucky.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:25
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:27
But yeah, we'll have more more Bare Knuckle girls on for sure. So where can we follow you on all social media platforms or your only fans or whatever you want to promote right now?

Unknown Speaker 1:22:36
My only fans is just under Cassandra Rob, I think. Yeah, I don't know if there's like an app before but my Instagram is at the Cassie Rob. And that's the only social media I have I don't have Facebook or anything anymore. No Twitter anything? Nope. I deleted all of it.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:52
Okay, cool. And I'll have all those links in the show notes guys. So you can check out Cassie on her only fans or Instagram and then I really want to know when you're fighting but I know you can't talk about it. So I can

Unknown Speaker 1:23:04
tell you it's an April. Oh,

Unknown Speaker 1:23:05
okay. So that's,

Unknown Speaker 1:23:07
that's right around the corner. That'll be here. Yeah. That's all I can say. All right,

Unknown Speaker 1:23:11
so whatever I wonder and you don't know where it's at?

Unknown Speaker 1:23:15
Um, should be in Montana.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:18
Okay, man, I really hope that there's a card where there's just like a whole bunch of girl fights because I want to go watch Tae phi and there was a card I think it was like Rachel was on it. Pearl was on it like I really want to go out and watch a live Bare Knuckle fight so hopefully that's the card that I can go oh, you should there's so fun. All right Cassie. Well, train hard. Keep killing it. Keep doing all the things that you're doing cutting hair weed industry, stripping, fighting like

Unknown Speaker 1:23:49
everything. I have a new hobby Next time we talk yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:52
You've been awesome. Thank you so much. Thanks for all the fair questions. We'll talk to you soon absolutely thank you me share can you take my channels and that's not nearly that's it guys for episode 84 with bare knuckle beauty, Cassie Rob. She does so much stuff. It's crazy. She's in She's not just a fighter. She's a dancers cannabis worker. She's really just an entrepreneur of all sorts and it was great to get to know her and I'm excited for everything that her future has in store. You guys want to check out our next guest next week we have a special guest Her name is Buddy to Ford aka bunny x o on social media. Bunny is a former model who now hosts the dumb blonde podcast. She's basically a female shock doc shock jock and a wife of rapper Jelly Roll. She's a little Dolly Parton and Dr. Ruth all in one, guys. She's hilarious and just so fun to talk to. It's going to be a great episode check it out. Don't forget check out the website www sex violence with rebel Please pick up a shirt a hat, whatever, just something to support the show. I love you guys so much. Thank you so much for tuning in every week all your fan questions supporting the show. So Sorry we missed last week but you know, should happen. What can we say? Special thank you to audio engineer DJ Zol at DJ Zol on Instagram tomorrow kid studio where the magic happens at tomorrow kids official and you can find us on Instagram at sex and violence with rebel girl and myself at Ashley MMA. I really hope you guys enjoy this week's episode. Have a great weekend. Watch the fights and remember, be kind, be grateful. But don't take shape from Dr. guys next week with more tales of sex and violence.

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